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It is very clear from you last post that you and I are never going to get anywhere close to agreement.
The fact that you support a Nuclear Armed Country over a people whose homes are being demolished on a daily basis in order to accommodate (Russians for Example)beggars belief. Palestinians have the right to exist and have even more right to resist. Have a nice life slo...lets hope that Palestinians have the same luck as you and I. |
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Islam rejects any and all claims of any other group, period. Peace amongst Islam is temporary, at best. Even in wholly Muslim states, different sects hunt each other to extinction.
As an American, I continue to vote for my country to support Israel, who has shown they are capable of peace, for Palestine will never be satisfied, no matter what they are given. |
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Islam rejects any and all claims of any other group, period. Peace amongst Islam is temporary, at best. Even in wholly Muslim states, different sects hunt each other to extinction. As an American, I continue to vote for my country to support Israel, who has shown they are capable of peace, for Palestine will never be satisfied, no matter what they are given. 
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It is very clear from you last post that you and I are never going to get anywhere close to agreement. The fact that you support a Nuclear Armed Country over a people whose homes are being demolished on a daily basis in order to accommodate (Russians for Example)beggars belief. Palestinians have the right to exist and have even more right to resist. Have a nice life slo...lets hope that Palestinians have the same luck as you and I. Israelis have a right to exist and defend themselves from terrorist attacks. Israelis never try to kill civilians and they do not teach hate to their children. Hamas and Hezbollah do try to kill innocent civilians and teach religious hatred. Yet, Opto somehow you support those who kill innocent people and try to deny Israelis right to live peacefully in their own land. If the Palestinians stopped terrorist attacks there would be absolutely no demolitions of the terrorists former homes. 
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Zionism – a failed enterprise
So, rather than enter an endless and futile debate here, I propose that we should begin from a point at which we all agree: I presume that we all accept that Israel is currently one state but is dominated politically and spiritually by an ethnocentric discriminatory political system. |
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Zionism – a failed enterprise So, rather than enter an endless and futile debate here, I propose that we should begin from a point at which we all agree: I presume that we all accept that Israel is currently one state but is dominated politically and spiritually by an ethnocentric discriminatory political system. If you mean, Israel is surrounded by people who hate them and want to kill them for no other reason than because they listen to a different magical, invisible being, then yes, we'll agree. |
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Zionism – a failed enterprise So, rather than enter an endless and futile debate here, I propose that we should begin from a point at which we all agree: I presume that we all accept that Israel is currently one state but is dominated politically and spiritually by an ethnocentric discriminatory political system. If you mean, Israel is surrounded by people who hate them and want to kill them for no other reason than because they listen to a different magical, invisible being, then yes, we'll agree.
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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Wed 02/29/12 10:21 AM
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There is no way to maintain the Jewish State by the sword.
The time is overdue for Israel to drop its expansionist genocidial philosophy. If Israelis really want to live in the region, they must pursue every means towards peace immediately. |
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If Israelis really want to live in the region, they must pursue every means towards peace immediately. OR WHAT? What will all of those "peaceful" Islamists that have been attacking the Jewish people of Israel for over sixty years now do to Israel...that they are not already doing? What, exactly, would be the consequence of Israel not maintaining their firm stance that they, too, have a right to live on their home soil? The neighboring nations have tried...AND FAILED...to evict the Jews from Israel; facing extinction from a hostile religion, they fought back, and won. Now, surrounded by a bunch of sore losers, Israel is supposed to give back what they were forced to fight a war for? No. That's the risk you take when you force someone into war; they might win, and when they do, that's it. That's the final answer. There are no referees, no fouls, no instant replay. |
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There is no way to maintain the Jewish State by the sword.
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There is no way to maintain the Jewish State by the sword. Yes, I read that the first time, and other than sounding like a poorly veiled threat, I fail to see the logic in your statement. The Jewish State was mobile, on the run from Islamist persecution, when they chose to stand and fight. They stood and fought against what Hitler did to the Jews in Germany, they stood and fought against what Turkey did to Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks; they stood and fought, for they knew that to do any less was to be wiped out. Israel, however, did what the Jews in Germany did not, what the Armenians and so many other minorities did not think they could do: they not only stood and fought, they won. Israel defeated tyranny, defeated religious hatred, defeated those who sought their death solely because of their religious beliefs. "no way to maintain the Jewish State by the sword" is a fallacy; it was created by the sword, it stands because of the sword, and it will continue to defy cowards well into the future. Only cowards shirk from a fair fight and insist on new rules. |
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There is no way to maintain the Jewish State by the sword. The time is overdue for Israel to drop its expansionist genocidial philosophy. If Israelis really want to live in the region, they must pursue every means towards peace immediately.  Tell that to your Friends in Gaza! It's their MO! 
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Zionism – a failed enterprise So, rather than enter an endless and futile debate here, I propose that we should begin from a point at which we all agree: I presume that we all accept that Israel is currently one state but is dominated politically and spiritually by an ethnocentric discriminatory political system. 
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There is no way to maintain the Jewish State by the sword. The time is overdue for Israel to drop its expansionist genocidial philosophy. If Israelis really want to live in the region, they must pursue every means towards peace immediately. |
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Zionism – a failed enterprise So, rather than enter an endless and futile debate here, I propose that we should begin from a point at which we all agree: I presume that we all accept that Israel is currently one state but is dominated politically and spiritually by an ethnocentric discriminatory political system. If you mean, Israel is surrounded by people who hate them and want to kill them for no other reason than because they listen to a different magical, invisible being, then yes, we'll agree.
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63 years of expanding borders does not peace make.
Sooner or later Israel will have to come to terms with the millions of Palestinians ...The sooner the better for Israel |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Thu 03/01/12 07:46 AM
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63 years of expanding borders does not peace make. Sooner or later Israel will have to come to terms with the millions of Palestinians ...The sooner the better for Israel Now,who was it again that was attacked then?
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