Islam's been bloody and violent from it's inception,regardless what their Book might say!

WASHINGTON – The shooting deaths of two U.S. military advisers in the Afghan capital and the quick decision to pull coalition personnel from all government ministries injected a sobering measure of doubt about the reliability of the most important U.S. ally in the war.

The Pentagon condemned what it called the murder of the two American officers but said it was committed to working closely with the Afghans to counter violent extremism and to stabilize the country.

President Obama telephoned the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, with condolences. And the White House praised President Hamid Karzai's efforts to restore calm in his country.

In a written statement, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's press secretary said Afghan Defense Minister Gen. Abdul Rahim Wardak called Panetta on Saturday to offer his condolences and to apologize.

"Secretary Panetta appreciated the call and urged the Afghan government to take decisive action to protect coalition forces and curtail the violence in Afghanistan after a challenging week in the country," spokesman George Little said.

He said Wardak told Panetta that Karzai was assembling religious leaders, parliamentarians, Supreme Court justices and other senior officials "to take urgent steps" to stop the violence.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said the administration welcomes Karzai's statements "encouraging peaceful expressions, and his call for dialog."

Even if Saturday's killer turns out not to be an Afghan, the deaths compound a perception of insecurity in the heart of Kabul after a series of recent security failures and Afghan outrage over U.S. burning of Muslim holy books.

The Taliban claimed responsibility and said the attack, was in retaliation for what U.S. officials have said was the inadvertent burning of Afghan religious materials, including Korans, at Bagram air base north of Kabul.

Allen, who commands both U.S. and coalition forces in Afghanistan, said the killer's actions "will not go unanswered." Citing security reasons, he recalled all coalition personnel from Afghan ministries.

NATO forces have advisers embedded in many Afghan ministries, both as trainers and to help manage the transition to Afghan control as foreign forces prepare to withdraw by the end of 2014. The Afghan Interior Ministry oversees all the country's police, so has numerous NATO advisers.

A White House statement said Obama thanked Allen for his steps to protect U.S. troops and to encourage calm. It also said the United States "remains committed to a partnership with the government and people of Afghanistan."

Still, the killings are likely to provide new momentum for critics of Obama's war policy, as well as Republicans who fault him for having apologized for the Koran burning.

Obama's apology Thursday, shortly after Allen expressed deep regret, was seized on by the president's Republican rivals as a sign of American weakness. Presidential primary candidate Newt Gingrich said it was the Afghans who should be apologizing, given their shocking perfidy.

These tensions coincide with planned administration meetings in Washington in the week ahead with the Afghan ministers of defense and the interior. It was unclear Saturday whether the session, including one on Thursday with Panetta at the Pentagon, would go on as scheduled.

Those talks are seen as important in the lead-up to a NATO summit meeting in May in Chicago, when the alliance and Karzai intend to determine the path to turning over full security responsibility to the Afghan government by the end of 2014.

Central to the U.S.-led international coalition's strategy for countering the Taliban insurgency is the idea of building up Afghan security capacity by working closely with the Afghan army and police. That requires a measure of trust, which is undermined when Afghans turn their guns on their foreign partners.

Just this past week the U.S. Army announced it was creating specially tailored brigades -- some now getting training in the U.S. -- to perform training and advising missions in Afghanistan starting this summer. It will assign 18-person teams to Afghan combat units in hopes of improving their ability to handle the Taliban insurgency on their own by 2014.

Even before the Koran burning and the unrest it unleashed across Afghanistan, U.S. and allied troops had been killed in increasing numbers by their Afghan partners. Last month France suspended its military training program after an Afghan soldier shot and killed four French soldiers.

After the French deaths, Allen issued a statement lamenting "this very serious issue of individuals targeting our forces." He pledged then, and again after Saturday's killings, to continue to work closely with the Afghan government.

Just this past Thursday two American soldiers were shot to death by a member of the Afghan army at a base in eastern Afghanistan amid protests over the Koran burning.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/25/doubt-about-reliability-afghan-partners-in-war/#ixzz1nTRDd9zu

KABUL, Afghanistan – Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is condemning what he calls the murder of two American military officers in Afghanistan's capital.

Pentagon press secretary George Little says in a written statement that Panetta believes Saturday's killings in Kabul are unacceptable.

The nationality of the gunman hasn't been confirmed. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack inside a heavily guarded government building, saying it was retaliation for the burning of Korans on a U.S. military base in Afghanistan.

Little says Panetta received a telephone call from his Afghan counterpart, who offered his condolences and apologized for the incident.

Little says Panetta urged the Afghan government to take "decisive action" to protect coalition forces and to curtail violence after a week of unrest sparked by outrage over the burning of the Muslim holy books.

Meanwhile, the commander of NATO and U.S. forces says that all NATO personnel are being recalled from Afghan ministries following an attack at the Interior Ministry in Kabul.

Gen. John Allen says staff are being recalled "for obvious force protection reasons." He says NATO is investigating Saturday's shooting and will pursue all leads to find the person responsible for the attack.

Two U.S. military advisers were killed Saturday at the Afghanistan Interior Ministry in Kabul, though accounts of what led to the clash were unclear.

Contradictory accounts emerged out of Kabul following the shooting.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was retaliation for the Koran burnings.

U.S. officials said the assailant remained at large and a manhunt was under way.

The two advisers were shot in the back of the head, according to two Western officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose the information.

Initially, reports from the country indicated that the shooting was a result of an altercation between Westerners. But a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing one Western official in Kabul, said the two high-ranking advisers were killed by an Afghan police officer who was upset about the burning of Korans earlier this week at a U.S. military base.

The Associated Press then quoted a NATO official saying the shooter was not a Westerner.

A U.S. official in Washington confirmed that the two killed were American and that they were killed by "an assailant," without giving further information about the attacker. The official spoke anonymously to discuss information that had not been publicly released.

NATO forces have advisers embedded in many Afghan ministries, both as trainers and to help manage the transition to Afghan control and foreign forces prepare to withdraw by the end of 2014. The Afghan Interior Ministry oversees all of the country's police, so has numerous NATO advisers.

The International Security Assistance Force released a statement Saturday condemning that attacks. "We are investigating the crime and will pursue all leads to find the person responsible for this attack. The perpetrator of this attack is a coward whose actions will not go unanswered," Gen. John R. Allen said in the statement. "For obvious force protection reasons, I have also taken immediate measures to recall all other ISAF personnel working in ministries in and around Kabul."

At least 28 people have been killed and hundreds wounded since Tuesday, when it first emerged that Korans and other religious materials had been thrown into a fire pit used to burn garbage at Bagram Air Field, a large U.S. base north of Kabul.

President Obama and other U.S. officials apologized and said it was a terrible mistake, but the incident has sent thousands to the streets in this deeply religious country.

In Kunduz, the capital of Kunduz province in northeast Afghanistan, more than 1,000 protesters demonstrated. At first they were peaceful, but as the protest continued they began throwing stones at government buildings and a U.N. office, said Sarwer Hussaini, a spokesman for the provincial police. He said the police were firing into the air to try to disperse the crowd.

U.N. officials could not be reached for immediate comment.

Tensions between the Afghans and the Americans already were high following the Koran burnings. Anti-American sentiment has been on the rise in the war-weary country, and several foreign troops have been killed by Afghan soldiers in recent months. Some of those shootings have been blamed on personal hostilities, while others have been attributed to Taliban infiltrators.

In a statement, Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said the gunman was an insurgent named Abdul Rahman. He said an accomplice inside the ministry helped him get inside the compound. He said the killings were a planned response to the Koran burnings.

"After the attack, Rahman informed us by telephone that he was able to kill four high-ranking American advisers," Mujahid said. The Taliban frequently exaggerate casualty claims.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/25/2-nato-troops-killed-at-ministry-afghan-officials-say/?test=latestnews#ixzz1nTRYYVJF

So was mythology.
So was the Christian Bible.

..so what's your point? o.O

actually,what is yours?

Religion is pathetic.
Hating on one because it's "violent" is pathetic in itself.

They are all evil and have done absolutely no good.

Unlike Christians, I can at least give them douches credit for at least being "consistent". xD

..so, what was yours..?

I'll defend LP on this,people assume i'm upset and mad by my post and in return i have assumed the same about others,thing is my post i type may seem like i'm a bitter person but actually i type very calm using my 2 pointer fingers cause i suck at typing.Don't think there wasn't few times i pressed downed harder than usual on my keypads,thats happened but 99.9% of the time my words may look bitter and mean but the person typing it isn't.Also the subject thats being discussed has alot to do with it.

I think then maybe you have missed the majority of his posts.... : )

I found this quite interesting.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYEctbGSkkw&sns=fb

any thoughts on this??

I've never seen that..

The majority will agree with her.

One Could rename this Thread .....lets say

All American Soldiers are Good<><> All Muslims are Bad

++++++++++++++++++++++++++OR++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The Best Way to Divide People is Burn a Few Holy Books and stir up some racist views.

There are many ways to divide and rule but the easiest and quickest way is religion

I had a good laugh while reading an article recently where The Saudi Regime were demanding Democracy in Syria

The Sheeple/Bewildered herd are easily distracted from what is really going on around them.

I am in total agreement with getting rid of the bad guys.....all the bad guys...all at once.

Lets cleanup our own doorstep first....Just Saying

or that too,then...

I was referring to all of his posts, not just this topic.

Yuppers.
Great apology.
Now, who we gonna' elect, if our votes really count, who has the g-nads to tell the Extremist R-heads to shove it.
And those who are here, first time they show some sort of outrage and ant-Americanism, ship their backwards a$$es to Mecca.

February 26, 2012

Krauthammer: U.S. apology for Koran burning ‘embarrassing,’ ‘groveling’

On Friday’s “Special Report” on the Fox News Channel, Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer took strong umbrage with the White House’s decision to apologize at a Virginia mosque for a reportedly accidental burning of Islamic holy documents.

“That was embarrassing, what we saw,” Krauthammer said. “We have gone from apology here to abject self-debasement and groveling. And groveling to whom? To the mob. We should have had a single apology coming from the commander on the ground and that’s it. Not from the secretary of defense. Not from the president, of all people.”

Krauthammer reminded viewers of the 2010 incident involving Terry Jones, a Florida pastor who was promoting “Burn a Koran Day” and the administration’s reaction to that.

“Remember when the president had to pick up the phone when there was a crazy pastor in Florida who wanted a Koran burning and he had to be talked out of it,” Krauthammer said. “Is the president in charge of the offenses against a certain religious tradition in the world? This is a world in which nobody asked the Islamic conference, the grouping of the 56 Islamic countries, to issue an apology when Christians are attacked and churches are burned in Egypt or in Pakistan. And have we heard a word from any Islamic leader anywhere about the radical Muslims in Nigeria who are not only burning the churches but are burning women and children who are Christian in the churches. When I hear that, I’ll expect my president to start issuing apologies.”

According to The Washington Post columnist, this response makes the United States look weak and despite looking weak, those on the other side rarely reciprocate.

“In fact I’m not sure the argument that … you have to do it to protect our soldiers, is correct,” he continued. “The fact that after the president apologized and after we have been on our knees groveling there was an increase in the violence. I mean, it isn’t as if it has any effect whatsoever. It whets the appetite. People love to see America on its knees. And second, on the idea that there are leaders, Muslim leaders in the world who apologize, there are 56 nations in the Islamic conference. Has one apologized for the attacks on the Copts in Egypt? Has the leader in Egypt himself apologized? No. Sorry.”

Krauthammer’s “Special Report” co-panelist Kirsten Powers shot back at him, suggesting that the United States should set the example.

“I just have a hard time following this idea that we should be demanding apologies from other people but we shouldn’t apologize,” Powers said. “Is this what people tell their children? Only apologize if somebody else apologizes? We have our standards based on what we believe in. We are the United States. We are better than those people.”

But despite that plea from Powers, Krauthammer explained that it is not the case in this country when other religions are attacked.

“The reason we’re apologizing is not because of politeness or showing respect,” Krauthammer replied. “A single apology would have done that. It’s the fear of violence. People don’t object if Mormons are mocked on Broadway, if Christian crucifixes are put in bottles of urine and displayed in a museum because the violence isn’t a factor. People are afraid. You do a cartoon of Muhammad and you get beheaded or shot. It’s a matter of fear. It’s not respect. One apology is correct. It shouldn’t have been done. Absolutely all of this stuff is cravenous.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/25/krauthammer-u-s-apology-for-koran-burning-embarrassing-groveling/

Oh ye of little Faith