This is a question that is not created to state the belief that God does or does not exist.

This is a question that I am totally oblivious as to the meaning nor purpose of and seek to see if anyone can rectify what has just given me a headache in trying to define.

So.

Point I:

It states that the U.S. Government is created as such to be 'free' of Religion in the sense that it holds a jurisdiction over Politics. I probably worded that so bad, but, basically, it's one of the Amendments; the freedom to practice whatever religion you see fit. As such, and what my point was, so to, then should the government be 'free' of the obligation to 'adhere' to any religion over any other.

Correct?

Point II:

The Pledge of Allegiance, as I recently discovered (took place while I was enlisted) has been (not everywhere) banned from schools. This I was unaware of. Lpdon, credited to him, pointed this out in a political thread. I delved into the validity of this and found that such is true. Such was reported in the NY Times in 2002.

Grounds?

Because the words, "ONE NATION UNDER GOD" has been deemed, 'unconstitutional". On the grounds that this concept, a nation being 'under God' or as Wikipedia put it, 'under Zeus' or any other entity, is unconstitutional.

This all leads me to my question:

Why is it that when it is clear that it is a nation of numerous religions, which cannot be denied, that each and every president (I could be wrong but it is portrayed like this)gives off the appeal that he is a 'Christian'? Why can I say 'every' president and not feel that I can be overlooking someone?

Easy. EVERY president, upon being sworn into office, places his hand on one book while raising the other and recites the words, "So help me God.."

Why is that line necessary then? If God has no place in politics, why do we 'swear' upon the Bible, which mind you, even from my POV is a horrid practice, even in Courtrooms. I don't care, personally, if you think it will keep people from lying in court or abusing their power in office, truth is, as history be my proof; this is not the case in the slightest.

So, why is having our kids recite the Pledge of Allegiance so horrid of a practice in school, when they can easily refrain from reciting the words, or even just remove the words 'Under God'; while our presidents and courtrooms use swearing upon the Christian bible as common practice?

When a Muslim, and maybe there is one out there who can answer this; but when a Muslim is placed on trial in the U.S., do they pull out the Quran and make him swear upon that, or is it automatically registered to use the Christian Bible?

If so, then we ARE a nation under GOD; and that would be the Christian's depiction of God.

So, what am I missing?

They are slowly taking the bible out of court proceedings. They just have people swear to tell the truth but not on a bible. At least here in our state.

So they are slowly realizing the mistake that has been made on having people swear on a god that doesn't make them be more truthful anyway.

Those before us were ignorant on this religion thing.

We have a fight now to get it out of the places it isn't supposed to be.

..does that include presidential inaugurations?

Well the Muslim senator used the Quaran for his swearing in so I would suppose that if the president were atheist maybe they would do it on the constitution or something like that if they needed but I am sure it can be done without the bible.

..that was the Quran? o.O

..no wonder it was so small. o.o

I refuse to recite the Pledge because it is nothing more than a fascist/nationalist meme. The pledge didn't exist till 1892 (written by Francis Bellamy, Christian Socialist) and "Under God" was added in 1948. Even with "Under God" in it, it isn't a religious poem-it's a Statist one.

I agree. When one makes a pledge of that sort, one should know what the fine print means or what is implied by that pledge. Does that mean if our country is taken over by corrupt leaders who commit or participate in genocide that we are aligned to that because of having taken such a pledge?

This is a free Country, or it is supposed to be. That means that we are free to disagree with our political leaders and representatives at any time.

If pledging to the flag means that I support our coddling of Israel and of our bombing and making war with third world countries, then no thanks. I do not support that policy.

What I do support is the American People who have an obligation to be free and live free and to vote against tyranny without being labeled a terrorist.

Freedom is paramount!!

I refuse to recite the Pledge because it is nothing more than a fascist/nationalist meme. The pledge didn't exist till 1892 (written by Francis Bellamy, Christian Socialist) and "Under God" was added in 1948. Even with "Under God" in it, it isn't a religious poem-it's a Statist one.