kitteh kitteh

*licks*

There is NO WAY I would do a "What they say vs. what they mean" thread...

Chicks are friggen nuts...each one is crazy in thier own special way.....

some of em chop off penises and throw them out of windows of cars or into garbage disposals.

others just wanna crush your soul.

Still others like f**kin with your mind.

I am thrilled that my girl don't put me through that. She is an actual woman who can be pretty blunt.

She says: Be honest. Does this outfit make me look fat?

She means: Don't be honest. Say something positive even if this outfit makes me look fat.

Women know, of course we know how clothes make us look.

She says: Do these clothes make me look fat?
She means: Do these clothes hide my fattiness?

Yep, me too which either gets me in trouble or sends the guy running away.

Ain't that the truth...WHY do guys run???

GUYS...ahem...hmmm?

She says - Im going for a bath, she means - I'm off to masturbate

Because they can't handle the truth. This is why most folks lie in relationships.

I haven't lied in my relationships

and you are right being truthful and expecting the truth makes men nervous (in my experience only)

also that I cannot be controlled and I refuse to agree just to "get along"

as much as they say otherwise most men (not ALL) do not like strong women

Of course men don't like strong women; I know that first hand. You see what I mean about lying is when someone lies to not hurt the other's feelings. I don't do that. If I am not happy with say the love making; I would tell him even if it hurt his feelings. I also have no problems telling a man that I don't need a man in my life if he asks me that question. Of course a guy doesn't want to hear that but I am being truthful. Men don't tell women they look fat as it would hurt their feelings. Even if you are trying to not hurt someone by telling them the truth; its a lie; however most relationships are built on those types of lies.

Only a woman would admit this. And they always say how confusing WE are?! Not all women are little girls.

well I wasn't thinking about those things so much - more about making mutual decisions/negotiations-

I do think it is possible to be loving and deal with things - if I wanted the sex to be different I would make some suggestions but I don't think you should ever criticize your partner in bed - they are opening their most intimate self to you there. I would simply make some suggestions or just take control

if that did not work I would most likely suggest that we may not be compatible and wait for his response

if a man told me I was fat I would suggest he find another partner

I think one can be honest without criticizing and be tactful when deling with a delicate situation. A guy that I dated did tell me I was fat. It didn't end the relationship as he was right. He just could have said it with a little more tact.

I admit I exaggerate sometimes but I never lie about who I am with guys. I may joke around but when I'm asked a straightforward question, I know when to put on my serious hat.

The controlling issue has to do with power. Whoever has it wins. Power should be distributed IMO. A lot of the quotes I used in my thread about guys and what they really mean have to do with men just NOT being real and upfront about what they want. Or rather, maybe its how they are influenced to think. You'd be surprised. I've never met a man that wasn't influenced in SOME way by what other guys think. Free thinkers are sexy. All the way. Nonconformist is the way to be.

Oh yeah, again has to do with power. Men like to be the dominant one most of the time. When they see a smart, confident and brash (only cuz we have to be sometimes in this world) woman, their tail goes between their legs. Others are intrigued and those are the ones I like.

Barbra Streisand said it best in her Women in Film speech: (still applies today sadly)

A man is commanding – a woman is demanding.
A man is forceful – a woman is pushy.
A man is uncompromising – a woman is a ballbreaker.
A man is a perfectionist – a woman’s a pain in the ***. (I have been called this recently)
He’s assertive – she’s aggressive.
He strategizes – she manipulates.
He shows leadership – she’s controlling.
He’s committed – she’s obsessed.
He’s persevering – she’s relentless.
He sticks to his guns – she’s stubborn.
If a man wants to get it right, he’s looked up to and respected.
If a woman wants to get it right, she’s difficult and impossible.
If he acts, produces and directs, he’s called multi-talented. If she does the same thing, she’s called vain and egotistical.
It’s been said that a man’s reach should exceed his grasp. Why can’t that be true for a woman?

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/us/statement/women-film-speech

I never run, baby.

I like strong, smart women. They're just hard to come by. Look how long it took Audrey to find me!

good for you HB! Yes there are men out there who do like strong smart women. There are also those who don't. All kindsa peeps in the world!
Congratualtions BTW!