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| Topic: SCOTUS to hear Arizona's immigration law | |
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Well, considering no cop should be able to "in his own opinion" suspect anyone on sight of being an alien because it is racial/skin color profiling and is discrimination, it shouldn't be too hard to determine it is wrong. Everyone who comes in contact with the police in the negative light should have their citizenship checked. |
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they need to continue the immigration laws already on the books, and ENFORCING them equally the rest is emotional reactionism to divide and conquer the citizenry during voting season,,, The issue here is the DOJ has stated and is in court record that this will weaken federal immigration when it will strengthen it by having more eyes on the symptom. Illegal immigration is the symptom whereas employers, state and federal benefits are the cause which is what we need to address. I didnt realize my proposal was cited in any court document or DOJ policy,,,,, I thought hiring illegal immigrants was also already a federal crime,, although it is not ENFORCED very vigilantly They (Obama, DOJ and DNC) don't want immigration laws enforced and is why they do not want states doing it thus the law suits. there is a difference, (often debated in these very threads) Between what should be under FEDERAL jurisdiction and what should be under STATE jurisdiction this is different than not wanting laws enforced at all though,,, Just as there is a difference between the needs of Colorado re Immigration and the needs of Arizona and the other Southern Border States when it comes to what the Federal Government needs to allow. Colorado (and many other states) needs only the protection the fed should provide for a state that has no internationl border. For States like Arizona the border is a daily problem. They should have a greater part in the protection of the Border... They live on it. I agree. They should report such cases of illegal immigration when they already have a SUSPECT in custody who proves to be illegal. THey shouldnt be involved in policing immigration themself. IMHO I take the thought a bit further. As the United States has that border. So to does Arizona. As a state within the Union (that has a border with a Nation not of the Union) Arizona as a right (indeed an obligation to its citizens) to secure the border in a way that protects Arizona. Reguardless of what the other States think of its actions. Reguardless of the actions or lack thereof from the United States. Because before the Border is a Border of the United States... It is in truth the Border of Arizona (and several other states). The only role of the Federal Government in this case should be to AUGUMENT the actions of the Border States to defend themselves... Not dictate to them how they should operate. we still have 'union' states, and other states,,,? odd subsection for a place called 'UNITED STATES' |
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Mountain States, Coastal States, Border States, Desert States,. Union as in We the People... More perfect Union. that Union is between each of us... and also between the Comunities we have built by States. Currently those States that are 'Border States' and located along our Southern Border are under assult. (i.e. the border is being used by lawless elements for activities that are not in the best interest of the Nation as a whole. We can not fix the internal problem of what to do with the people that are here. Unless we slow that number down to a trickle. Because the problem will only get larger without such constraint. If the fed does not allow Arizona to act. Arizona will be lost to the Union. Becoming the 'gaza strip' for US and Mexico. One either learns from history or one repeats the mistakes of the past. |
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Aye... Mountain States, Coastal States, Border States, Desert States,. Union as in We the People... More perfect Union. that Union is between each of us... and also between the Comunities we have built by States. Currently those States that are 'Border States' and located along our Southern Border are under assult. (i.e. the border is being used by lawless elements for activities that are not in the best interest of the Nation as a whole. We can not fix the internal problem of what to do with the people that are here. Unless we slow that number down to a trickle. Because the problem will only get larger without such constraint. If the fed does not allow Arizona to act. Arizona will be lost to the Union. Becoming the 'gaza strip' for US and Mexico. One either learns from history or one repeats the mistakes of the past. Arizona has just enough dirtbillies and rednecks that if need be the people will take care of Arizona's border. |
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Aye... Mountain States, Coastal States, Border States, Desert States,. Union as in We the People... More perfect Union. that Union is between each of us... and also between the Comunities we have built by States. Currently those States that are 'Border States' and located along our Southern Border are under assult. (i.e. the border is being used by lawless elements for activities that are not in the best interest of the Nation as a whole. We can not fix the internal problem of what to do with the people that are here. Unless we slow that number down to a trickle. Because the problem will only get larger without such constraint. If the fed does not allow Arizona to act. Arizona will be lost to the Union. Becoming the 'gaza strip' for US and Mexico. One either learns from history or one repeats the mistakes of the past. Arizona has just enough dirtbillies and rednecks that if need be the people will take care of Arizona's border. I have no problem with a well regulated humane response. If such becomes necessary I will join it. In this case my country comes before my comfort. |
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Well, considering no cop should be able to "in his own opinion" suspect anyone on sight of being an alien because it is racial/skin color profiling and is discrimination, it shouldn't be too hard to determine it is wrong. Everyone who comes in contact with the police in the negative light should have their citizenship checked. But that is not what the law originally said. If you can prove your citizenship each time they stop you then of course everyone should do it all the time. Do birth certificates prove that? So make sure you carry it. And the original copy from the vital statistics office too just like the pres had to have. |
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Aye... Mountain States, Coastal States, Border States, Desert States,. Union as in We the People... More perfect Union. that Union is between each of us... and also between the Comunities we have built by States. Currently those States that are 'Border States' and located along our Southern Border are under assult. (i.e. the border is being used by lawless elements for activities that are not in the best interest of the Nation as a whole. We can not fix the internal problem of what to do with the people that are here. Unless we slow that number down to a trickle. Because the problem will only get larger without such constraint. If the fed does not allow Arizona to act. Arizona will be lost to the Union. Becoming the 'gaza strip' for US and Mexico. One either learns from history or one repeats the mistakes of the past. Arizona has just enough dirtbillies and rednecks that if need be the people will take care of Arizona's border. I have no problem with a well regulated humane response. If such becomes necessary I will join it. In this case my country comes before my comfort. the only thing we can absolutely count on our government to do is spend money so its up to the people and that's Arizona is doing. |
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That is why 2012 is so important.
There is still time before it gets to that point. It matters not who becomes President. What matters is that we change Congress and the Senate so that BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS (and the parties that think they own them) know, beyond a shadow of a doubt... That a People regulated Congress is the only one WE will except. the rest of the government will fall into line. And start behaving like they should. |
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