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Topic: * President Obama delivers State of the Union address
willing2's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:10 PM
I won't bore ya'll with the Teleprompter's speech.

Let's just hope it's his last one.

Go, Ron Paul.


boredinaz06's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:20 PM



You meant to say President Fraudlaugh

willing2's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:36 PM




You meant to say President Fraudlaugh

Perdona mi, por favor!laugh laugh smokin

Lpdon's photo
Tue 01/24/12 08:17 PM

I won't bore ya'll with the Teleprompter's speech.

Let's just hope it's his last one.

Go, Ron Paul.




It was nothing more then a campaign speech on the tax payers dime.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/24/12 11:18 PM
IF you want to laugh,, take a peek at the presidents state of the union

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/24/transcript-obamas-2012-state-union/


and the republican rebuttal

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/24/transcript-gop-rebuttal-to-state-union/


count how many 'rebuttal' points are almost exactly the same points the president proposed in his address,,,,,laugh laugh laugh


smart2009's photo
Wed 01/25/12 09:56 AM
The most important thing that can be done for large swaths ofthe middle class today is the promotion of a faster recovery from the Great Recession. Millions of middle-aged Americans have lost jobs and fallenout of the middle class since the crash of 2008, and millions of young Americans, just entering the workforce, have been unable to climb up into it -- getting stuck in bad jobs or not being able to find work at all. And millions of Americans who've kept their jobs have seen stagnant paychecks and huge losses in housing wealth. The most important thing we can do for all of these groups -- in the short run -- is to accelerate therecovery. The president talked about some thingsthat can do that -- infrastructure investment, the payroll tax extension, the promotion of domestic manufacturing, skills training. But by and large, thesecomments felt smallish to me, and were accompanied by a fair amount of talkon deficit-cutting. Deficit cutting will be priority #1 when the economy is healthy again, but the best thing the federal government can do for the middle class this year is to avoid the temptation to tighten too quickly, and instead to make really big new investments in infrastructure, make big tax cuts for the middle class, and to continue to provide support and demand for aneconomy that is recovering, but still very slowly. (Faster recovery is important not onlyto ease pain, but to prevent young, underemployed Americans just beginning their careers -- and older workers who've lost jobs -- from acquiring a stigma that can last a lifetime.)
We heard a lot about onshoring and about strengthening manufacturing. That's fine, but when we step back and think about what's reallybeen hollowing out the middle class over the past 20 years or more --and especially for people without a college degree -- offshoring takes a backseat to the replacement of middle-class workers with robots or computers; with technology, in other words. Onshoring won't stop this process. And we can't stop the march of technology. Instead, what I think we need to do is to bend technological progress towards job creation, not just job destruction. That means investments and regulatory changesthat can lead to breakthrough technological progress -- the creation of whole new products and industries. The president talked about funding basic scientific research, on the one hand, and about cutting red tape to allow small, innovative companies to flourish. That was good to hear. I'd like to see those things become big priorities next year. [As an aside, Idon't really understand all the attention clean energy got, at least with middle-class job creation in mind. I'm a supporter of clean energy, but we should be looking at policies that cancreate new products and boost emerging industries across the board, not just in one sector.]
The speech hit a lot of populist notes. I agree that tax rates on the rich should rise -- those rates are now lower than they were for most of the 20th century, and the rich, who've done very well in the past decade (unlike most Americans) should contribute more, especially given the high level of debt and the need to make some substantial new investments. But we shouldn't thinkthat we can solve all our national problems on the backs of the rich. The debt is too high, and the needfor investment toogreat, for the top 2% of society to fund it all. Rebuilding the middle class, and especially the lower middle class,which has really been devastated by this recession, is a national project, and will demand sacrifices from many of us, including, certainly, the professional class.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/25/12 10:06 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 01/25/12 10:09 AM

The most important thing that can be done for large swaths ofthe middle class today is the promotion of a faster recovery from the Great Recession. Millions of middle-aged Americans have lost jobs and fallenout of the middle class since the crash of 2008, and millions of young Americans, just entering the workforce, have been unable to climb up into it -- getting stuck in bad jobs or not being able to find work at all. And millions of Americans who've kept their jobs have seen stagnant paychecks and huge losses in housing wealth. The most important thing we can do for all of these groups -- in the short run -- is to accelerate therecovery. The president talked about some thingsthat can do that -- infrastructure investment, the payroll tax extension, the promotion of domestic manufacturing, skills training. But by and large, thesecomments felt smallish to me, and were accompanied by a fair amount of talkon deficit-cutting. Deficit cutting will be priority #1 when the economy is healthy again, but the best thing the federal government can do for the middle class this year is to avoid the temptation to tighten too quickly, and instead to make really big new investments in infrastructure, make big tax cuts for the middle class, and to continue to provide support and demand for aneconomy that is recovering, but still very slowly. (Faster recovery is important not onlyto ease pain, but to prevent young, underemployed Americans just beginning their careers -- and older workers who've lost jobs -- from acquiring a stigma that can last a lifetime.)
We heard a lot about onshoring and about strengthening manufacturing. That's fine, but when we step back and think about what's reallybeen hollowing out the middle class over the past 20 years or more --and especially for people without a college degree -- offshoring takes a backseat to the replacement of middle-class workers with robots or computers; with technology, in other words. Onshoring won't stop this process. And we can't stop the march of technology. Instead, what I think we need to do is to bend technological progress towards job creation, not just job destruction. That means investments and regulatory changesthat can lead to breakthrough technological progress -- the creation of whole new products and industries. The president talked about funding basic scientific research, on the one hand, and about cutting red tape to allow small, innovative companies to flourish. That was good to hear. I'd like to see those things become big priorities next year. [As an aside, Idon't really understand all the attention clean energy got, at least with middle-class job creation in mind. I'm a supporter of clean energy, but we should be looking at policies that cancreate new products and boost emerging industries across the board, not just in one sector.]
The speech hit a lot of populist notes. I agree that tax rates on the rich should rise -- those rates are now lower than they were for most of the 20th century, and the rich, who've done very well in the past decade (unlike most Americans) should contribute more, especially given the high level of debt and the need to make some substantial new investments. But we shouldn't thinkthat we can solve all our national problems on the backs of the rich. The debt is too high, and the needfor investment toogreat, for the top 2% of society to fund it all. Rebuilding the middle class, and especially the lower middle class,which has really been devastated by this recession, is a national project, and will demand sacrifices from many of us, including, certainly, the professional class.


In short, the commander in deceit has promised to increase the welfare state with money we don't have, to fund under paying jobs with debacles like Solyndra that costs us, not enhance us, and to make it all work, increase the tax load on ALL Americans by getting the FED to create more money, destroying further the value of our dollar, and thereby accellerating our decline into national poverty and a Grecian collapse scenario even worse than that of 2008.....

But he's going after the wealthy now too....the untapped source so far....

Did I get that right? slaphead frustrated


Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 01/25/12 10:13 AM
As much as I don't want Obama back in office....
I can't wrap my mind around Newt being the next
one to deliver these speech's.

If Obama and Newt are my choices..I won't vote.

MariahsFantasy's photo
Wed 01/25/12 10:14 AM
I felt like I was watching a really bad Chris Rock special, lots of bad acting and terrible cues.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/25/12 10:26 AM

As much as I don't want Obama back in office....
I can't wrap my mind around Newt being the next
one to deliver these speech's.

If Obama and Newt are my choices..I won't vote.



No worries! Newt might get 3 southern states if he's lucky, but soon he and Opus Dei will be back in their sty like good little piggies, wallowing in their own muck. laugh

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 01/25/12 11:01 AM


As much as I don't want Obama back in office....
I can't wrap my mind around Newt being the next
one to deliver these speech's.

If Obama and Newt are my choices..I won't vote.



No worries! Newt might get 3 southern states if he's lucky, but soon he and Opus Dei will be back in their sty like good little piggies, wallowing in their own muck. laugh


Which ever 3 southern states have the most racism will carry Noot.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/25/12 04:37 PM


The most important thing that can be done for large swaths ofthe middle class today is the promotion of a faster recovery from the Great Recession. Millions of middle-aged Americans have lost jobs and fallenout of the middle class since the crash of 2008, and millions of young Americans, just entering the workforce, have been unable to climb up into it -- getting stuck in bad jobs or not being able to find work at all. And millions of Americans who've kept their jobs have seen stagnant paychecks and huge losses in housing wealth. The most important thing we can do for all of these groups -- in the short run -- is to accelerate therecovery. The president talked about some thingsthat can do that -- infrastructure investment, the payroll tax extension, the promotion of domestic manufacturing, skills training. But by and large, thesecomments felt smallish to me, and were accompanied by a fair amount of talkon deficit-cutting. Deficit cutting will be priority #1 when the economy is healthy again, but the best thing the federal government can do for the middle class this year is to avoid the temptation to tighten too quickly, and instead to make really big new investments in infrastructure, make big tax cuts for the middle class, and to continue to provide support and demand for aneconomy that is recovering, but still very slowly. (Faster recovery is important not onlyto ease pain, but to prevent young, underemployed Americans just beginning their careers -- and older workers who've lost jobs -- from acquiring a stigma that can last a lifetime.)
We heard a lot about onshoring and about strengthening manufacturing. That's fine, but when we step back and think about what's reallybeen hollowing out the middle class over the past 20 years or more --and especially for people without a college degree -- offshoring takes a backseat to the replacement of middle-class workers with robots or computers; with technology, in other words. Onshoring won't stop this process. And we can't stop the march of technology. Instead, what I think we need to do is to bend technological progress towards job creation, not just job destruction. That means investments and regulatory changesthat can lead to breakthrough technological progress -- the creation of whole new products and industries. The president talked about funding basic scientific research, on the one hand, and about cutting red tape to allow small, innovative companies to flourish. That was good to hear. I'd like to see those things become big priorities next year. [As an aside, Idon't really understand all the attention clean energy got, at least with middle-class job creation in mind. I'm a supporter of clean energy, but we should be looking at policies that cancreate new products and boost emerging industries across the board, not just in one sector.]
The speech hit a lot of populist notes. I agree that tax rates on the rich should rise -- those rates are now lower than they were for most of the 20th century, and the rich, who've done very well in the past decade (unlike most Americans) should contribute more, especially given the high level of debt and the need to make some substantial new investments. But we shouldn't thinkthat we can solve all our national problems on the backs of the rich. The debt is too high, and the needfor investment toogreat, for the top 2% of society to fund it all. Rebuilding the middle class, and especially the lower middle class,which has really been devastated by this recession, is a national project, and will demand sacrifices from many of us, including, certainly, the professional class.


In short, the commander in deceit has promised to increase the welfare state with money we don't have, to fund under paying jobs with debacles like Solyndra that costs us, not enhance us, and to make it all work, increase the tax load on ALL Americans by getting the FED to create more money, destroying further the value of our dollar, and thereby accellerating our decline into national poverty and a Grecian collapse scenario even worse than that of 2008.....

But he's going after the wealthy now too....the untapped source so far....

Did I get that right? slaphead frustrated





not from what I heard,, but in listening to pundits and opinions, I Have realized what people hear has alot to do with what they have already decided in their own minds,,,,,

willing2's photo
Wed 01/25/12 04:39 PM
Something not many folks caught was, he looks like he's gearing up to promise the Illegals Mass Amnesty.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/25/12 04:41 PM
Something else many didnt catch was him congratulating his head of defense for having just organized the rescue of an american citizen,,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 01/25/12 04:54 PM

Something else many didnt catch was him congratulating his head of defense for having just organized the rescue of an american citizen,,,,


Why didn't he rescue the 3 hikers illegally captured by Iran?

no photo
Wed 01/25/12 05:09 PM

I won't bore ya'll with the Teleprompter's speech.

Let's just hope it's his last one.

Go, Ron Paul.




drinker



msharmony's photo
Wed 01/25/12 06:03 PM


Something else many didnt catch was him congratulating his head of defense for having just organized the rescue of an american citizen,,,,


Why didn't he rescue the 3 hikers illegally captured by Iran?


I havent got a chance to ask him,,,but they did get home after all didnt they?

I think there was an issue in this case with health issues one of the captives had,,but thats just the 'news' so far,,I try to wait at least a month to get anything near the whole truth on things like this,,,

s1owhand's photo
Wed 01/25/12 06:22 PM
I think that Obama may have hit a home run.

drinker

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/25/12 06:27 PM

I think that Obama may have hit a home run.

drinker



I think he is kicking butt in the commander in chief department

and our world image hasnt been so well in years



he still has a way to go on the economy and he is going to keep opponents and fear rampant whenever he speaks of regulating anything


as someone said on colbert the other day, he ran as a negotiator/diplomat/centrist, so he makes decisions that upset both sides and extremes,

he gets some wrong, but gets most right, in my opinion

,,Im excited about voting for him again,,

Peccy's photo
Thu 01/26/12 10:03 AM


I think that Obama may have hit a home run.

drinker



I think he is kicking butt in the commander in chief department

and our world image hasnt been so well in years



he still has a way to go on the economy and he is going to keep opponents and fear rampant whenever he speaks of regulating anything


as someone said on colbert the other day, he ran as a negotiator/diplomat/centrist, so he makes decisions that upset both sides and extremes,

he gets some wrong, but gets most right, in my opinion

,,Im excited about voting for him again,,
Yes, our image is pristine and all the countries love us! Especially those Middle Easterners!............lol

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