Topic: Barry "Fudging" US Census. Counting Illegals
willing2's photo
Sat 01/21/12 08:54 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 01/21/12 08:56 AM
Obama Administration “Rigging” US Census By Counting Illegal
Aliens

By Chuck Baldwin
January 20, 2012

The Barack Hussein Obama administration is quietly in the process of rigging use of the US Census of 2010, which deliberately counted millions of illegal aliens, for the purpose of restructuring the apportionment of the US House of Representatives. Accordingly, as candidates for Governor and Lieutenant Governor of one of the negatively affected states (Montana), Mr. Bob Fanning and I have joined with several others in becoming amici curiae in a pending federal lawsuit brought by the State of Louisiana against the US Secretary of Commerce, et al., which was filed January, 13, 2012 in the United States Supreme Court.

What has happened is, the US Census Bureau erroneously claims that it “‘is required by the U.S. Constitution count everyone living in this country, regardless of immigration or citizenship status.’” Accordingly, they have counted millions of illegal aliens in the 2010
Census and are using those figures to apportion the US House of
Representatives.


If this egregious misinterpretation of the US Constitution is allowed to stand, five states (Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, and Ohio) will lose representation in the US Congress to which they are lawfully entitled, while three states California, Texas, and Florida) will be awarded additional representation in the US Congress to which they are not lawfully entitled. << How convenient and coincidental is that? The States with the highest numbers of wets. And, of course, this will also directly impact the makeup of the Electoral College, which ultimately elects the President of the United States.

Of course, this manipulation of the 2010 US Census also impacts the
election of the US President, as those states that are granted more
seats in the US Congress are also granted more votes in the Electoral
College as the Electoral College is composed of a “Number of
Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to
which the State may be entitled in the Congress. . . .”

(Article. II. Section. I. Clause. 2. US Constitution). And, as everyone knows, under the US Constitution, it is the Electoral College that ultimately elects the President of the United States. Thus, the states of Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, and Ohio, will be unjustly denied their lawful votes in the Electoral College, while
California, Texas, and Florida, are being unjustly granted unlawful
votes in the Electoral College.

Would it not be extraordinary if the margin by which President Obama is re-elected in the Electoral College would be provided by the manipulation of the census data under his control? Again, this would be an outrage!

To continue reading Chuck’s column, click here:
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=4422

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 10:10 AM
I have worked on the census. The requirement is to go to the door and inquire as to how many live in the home,, not to check citizenship status.

not manipulation,,just a matter of COUNTING the people here,, the purpose of the Census


IF the immigration authorities have not discovered the illegal immigrant(which, by definition, they apparently havent) why should and how could a census worker asking questions at peoples front doors?


prosecute those who give false information,,dont start demonizing people for not being fortunetellers,,,

Seakolony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 10:49 AM
I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 01/21/12 11:04 AM
Makes ya wonder how accurate it is to begin with.
I know some who intentionally don't include themselves,
there are the extra bodies in some houses, and the homeless...
which is getting larger every day.
Who goes out there and does a head count.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if numbers are being fudged if
there is personal gain. That's the game...

metalwing's photo
Sat 01/21/12 11:06 AM
There was a HUGE ad campaign here before and during the census directed at illegals to fill out the census forms. There were claims of the government not using the information to deport anyone and the need to bring the proper amount of "services" to each community.

willing2's photo
Sat 01/21/12 11:33 AM

There was a HUGE ad campaign here before and during the census directed at illegals to fill out the census forms. There were claims of the government not using the information to deport anyone and the need to bring the proper amount of "services" to each community.

I remember that.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 01:34 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/21/12 01:35 PM

I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.


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Sat 01/21/12 01:36 PM


I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.




I thought it said it was a 10,000 fine if you did not return the form that was mailed in 2010.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 01:41 PM



I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.




I thought it said it was a 10,000 fine if you did not return the form that was mailed in 2010.


courts are authorized to impose a five thousand dollar fine, but I dont know of any cases where they have used such authority



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Sat 01/21/12 01:46 PM




I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.




I thought it said it was a 10,000 fine if you did not return the form that was mailed in 2010.


courts are authorized to impose a five thousand dollar fine, but I dont know of any cases where they have used such authority






Well I was intimidated lol. But I did my civic duty and filled it out.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 01:58 PM





I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.




I thought it said it was a 10,000 fine if you did not return the form that was mailed in 2010.


courts are authorized to impose a five thousand dollar fine, but I dont know of any cases where they have used such authority






Well I was intimidated lol. But I did my civic duty and filled it out.



it doesnt hurt,,lol

we could do a whole thread about (Dumb)laws on the books in different states that arent enforced though,,,, maybe we shouldlaugh laugh

willing2's photo
Sat 01/21/12 04:23 PM
FACT

• I am required by law to fill out the 2010 Census.

• If I don't fill out the census a worker will come to my house sometime after March 2010.

• You can be fined up to $100 for refusing to answer a question asked by a census worker.

• You can be fined up to $500 for giving false information to a census worker.

• You can be fined $5000 for refusing to fill out a form.

• It is illegal for the Census to publish your name, address, GPS coordinates, Social Security Number or telephone number.

• Census takers will not ask you for your social security number, bank account number, or credit card number.

• The census taker must present an ID badge that contains a Department of Commerce watermark and expiration date.

• The census taker will ONLY ask you the questions that appear on the census form.


Seakolony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 05:01 PM


I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.




No thanks.....try finding a neighbor in OC, MD in off-season, or one that knows anything in season.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 01/21/12 05:05 PM

George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell

While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.


Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies: "Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

Seakolony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 05:10 PM


George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell

While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.


Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies: "Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 05:32 PM


George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell

While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.


Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies: "Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."



SINCE, OBAMA 'took over',,,, cause it was heaven before three years ago,,,,


laugh laugh laugh now that IS funny,,,,

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 01/21/12 05:36 PM
Who the heck is Barry?


The only thing I continue to marvel at, is how insanely creative some folks can be about finding ways to blame whoever they have a pathological hatred of, for ANYTHING that happens in the world.

The census has often had controversy attached to it. But it's just a required, mechanical operation. As I recall, they only do it once every ten years. Since there are a number of programs tied to it's results, as well as apportionment, everyone who feels ill used is open to being manipulated into believing that the count itself is the problem.

But unless you can show documentation that your favorite object of hatred actually directed that sneaky things be done, you are just spouting politicized nonsense. And I don't care if you are anti GOP, anti Democrat, anti some race, or just anti-thought.

Seakolony's photo
Sat 01/21/12 05:47 PM

Who the heck is Barry?


The only thing I continue to marvel at, is how insanely creative some folks can be about finding ways to blame whoever they have a pathological hatred of, for ANYTHING that happens in the world.

The census has often had controversy attached to it. But it's just a required, mechanical operation. As I recall, they only do it once every ten years. Since there are a number of programs tied to it's results, as well as apportionment, everyone who feels ill used is open to being manipulated into believing that the count itself is the problem.

But unless you can show documentation that your favorite object of hatred actually directed that sneaky things be done, you are just spouting politicized nonsense. And I don't care if you are anti GOP, anti Democrat, anti some race, or just anti-thought.

Every time I see your pic, I think Kevin Klein.

Peccy's photo
Sun 01/22/12 04:41 AM



I never did the census and was never counted on purpose.


if you want to be counted, you can always REQUEST a form. But they cant force people who dont want to be counted to participate. Although they are permitted to get information from neighbors instead.




No thanks.....try finding a neighbor in OC, MD in off-season, or one that knows anything in season.
Tru dat! OC is bustling in the summer, ghost town this time of year!

willing2's photo
Sun 01/22/12 07:24 AM

Who the heck is Barry?


The only thing I continue to marvel at, is how insanely creative some folks can be about finding ways to blame whoever they have a pathological hatred of, for ANYTHING that happens in the world.

The census has often had controversy attached to it. But it's just a required, mechanical operation. As I recall, they only do it once every ten years. Since there are a number of programs tied to it's results, as well as apportionment, everyone who feels ill used is open to being manipulated into believing that the count itself is the problem.

But unless you can show documentation that your favorite object of hatred actually directed that sneaky things be done, you are just spouting politicized nonsense. And I don't care if you are anti GOP, anti Democrat, anti some race, or just anti-thought.

Barry Soros AKA Hussein oBama.

To fudge the numbers manipulates the number of Electoral votes in favor of the manipulator.