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Sara Spafford Freeman, a 33-year-old communications consultant, has been a Kelly Clarkson fan since the singer’s "American Idol" days. But after she saw Clarkson’s Twitter endorsement of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, Spafford Freeman decided she could no longer endorse Clarkson.
“I used to like Kelly Clarkson. But I can't like anyone who is either ignorant enough or arrogant enough to endorse a candidate like Ron Paul,” Spafford Freeman told Fox411 on Thursday from her home in Minnesota. “I have listened to ‘Since You've Been Gone’ for the last time.” Spafford Freeman’s comments are just part of the pushback the platinum-selling superstar and inaugural "American Idol" winner has been getting since she announced her support of Paul Wednesday night. "I love Ron Paul,” Clarkson tweeted. “I liked him a lot during the last Republican nomination and no one gave him a chance. If he wins the nomination for the Republican party in 2012 he's got my vote. Too bad he probably won't." Many of Clarkson’s Twitter followers immediately demanded that she retract her statement, but so far she’s refused. Among Clarkson’s critics on Twitter was user @kat_george, who tweeted: Ew just found out Kelly Clarkson luvs Ron Paul lyk, 4eva and stuff. Soz Kelly, not your fan anymore. And there was this one from @waflanagan: Oh Jebus Kelly Clarkson is a Ron Paul fan. My love for you has taken a severe hit, Kelly... Paul, who like Clarkson hails from Texas, has been roundly criticized over the last few weeks for having published a series of newsletters in the 1980s and ’90s that included racist and homophobic remarks. The newsletters’ content was revealed when Paul ran for president in 2008, but they got less attention because the congressman was never a front-running candidate. Polls currently show Paul neck-and-neck in next week’s Iowa caucuses with Mitt Romney. His policy platforms include significantly cutting military spending overseas and returning the country to the gold standard. Clarkson responded to her critics by saying that she supported Paul because of his stance on limited government. “I am really sorry if I have offended anyone. Obviously that was not my intent. I do not support racism. I support gay rights, straight rights, women's rights, men's rights, white/black/purple/orange rights,” she tweeted after being lambasted online. “I like Ron Paul because he believes in less government and letting the people (all of us) make the decisions and mold our country. That is all. Out of all of the Republican nominees, he's my favorite." Clarkson also tweeted that she had, “never heard that Ron Paul is a racist or a homophobe." Now the question is whether her political views will alienate a considerable portion of her fan base. “Kelly Clarkson has a very strong fan base of people who love her music and respect her as a person for her bold expression of her individuality time and time again,” says In Touch senior editor Dorothy Cascerceri. “Not every fan is going to care about her personal views, and when you have as loyal a fan base as she does, little will stop people from listening to her music, buying her CDs and music online.” Indeed many of Clarkson’s fans stood by her on a forum on her website. “Im glad Kelly stuck up for her opinion, that's what I love about her!" KellyFan_2011 posted Thursday afternoon on the forum. "She doesn't let any people push her around and its a really a shame, that some people rudely attack her because they have a different political opinion, she doesn't deserve that." But not everyone agrees. "For some Paul is seen as a homophobe and a racist. So for her fans, that may be sending them a message that she concurs with his homophobic and racist ideals," explains "Cult of Celebrity" author Cooper Lawrence. "This is a problem since she does have a wide variety of die hard fans which include gays and a wide range of ethnicities who are offended by her endorsement." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/30/kelly-clarkson-loses-some-fans-over-her-endorsement-ron-paul/#ixzz1i2tk6z7V ![]() |
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![]() http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046539.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread791179/pg1 Looks like someone is a little upset to be flooding the forum with smears on RP when their candidate slipped to 5th? A person who couldn't stand under the accusations thrown at them....mostly because they were true.... You're doing our campaigning for us....thank you! |
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Fri 12/30/11 12:57 PM
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![]() http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046539.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread791179/pg1 Looks like someone is a little upset to be flooding the forum with smears on RP when their candidate slipped to 5th? A person who couldn't stand under the accusations thrown at them....mostly because they were true.... You're doing our campaigning for us....thank you! ![]() Notice Lpdon conveniently left out this quote: “Im glad Kelly stuck up for her opinion, that's what I love about her!" KellyFan_2011 posted Thursday afternoon on the forum. "She doesn't let any people push her around and its a really a shame, that some people rudely attack her because they have a different political opinion, she doesn't deserve that." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/30/kelly-clarkson-loses-some-fans-over-her-endorsement-ron-paul/#ixzz1i3MynJ5b The article also makes a very false claim: that RP supports the gold standard. He does not. He favors sound money-IOW, free market money. That is, people can choose whatever standard they want. He correctly states that people have historically favored gold and silver as money, but wants truly honest money. |
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![]() http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046539.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread791179/pg1 Looks like someone is a little upset to be flooding the forum with smears on RP when their candidate slipped to 5th? A person who couldn't stand under the accusations thrown at them....mostly because they were true.... You're doing our campaigning for us....thank you! Nope, I am not supporting any candidate right now thank you though. I have stated I like certain candidates but not jumped behind one. Besides the same three Paulbots flood these forums with their Paul worship so there needs to be opposing views and the truth posted, not the Paulbot polished truth either. |
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![]() http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046539.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread791179/pg1 Looks like someone is a little upset to be flooding the forum with smears on RP when their candidate slipped to 5th? A person who couldn't stand under the accusations thrown at them....mostly because they were true.... You're doing our campaigning for us....thank you! Nope, I am not supporting any candidate right now thank you though. I have stated I like certain candidates but not jumped behind one. Besides the same three Paulbots flood these forums with their Paul worship so there needs to be opposing views and the truth posted, not the Paulbot polished truth either. "Paulbots"...ah, insults. The last resort of a man with no coherent argument. ![]() ![]() eta: the OP was debunked here: http://mingle2.com/topic/show/317733 |
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Let me guess, you also supported fans going against the Dixie Chicks when they stood up against Bush, right?
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![]() http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046539.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread791179/pg1 Looks like someone is a little upset to be flooding the forum with smears on RP when their candidate slipped to 5th? A person who couldn't stand under the accusations thrown at them....mostly because they were true.... You're doing our campaigning for us....thank you! Nope, I am not supporting any candidate right now thank you though. I have stated I like certain candidates but not jumped behind one. Besides the same three Paulbots flood these forums with their Paul worship so there needs to be opposing views and the truth posted, not the Paulbot polished truth either. "Paulbots"...ah, insults. The last resort of a man with no coherent argument. ![]() Not an insult, truth now if I called them Paultards like the rest of the world does that would be an insult. Paulbot is someone who has been influenced by a charasmatic cult type leader who shares simularaties to Jim Jones, David Koresh etc. I don't resort to insults or personal attacks when someone speaks bad about my idol, I cant say the same for the Paulbots though. |
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Sales of Clarkson’s album “Stronger” have soared on Amazon ever since the singer tweeted, “I love Ron Paul,” and “He’s got my vote.”
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![]() http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046539.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread791179/pg1 Looks like someone is a little upset to be flooding the forum with smears on RP when their candidate slipped to 5th? A person who couldn't stand under the accusations thrown at them....mostly because they were true.... You're doing our campaigning for us....thank you! Nope, I am not supporting any candidate right now thank you though. I have stated I like certain candidates but not jumped behind one. Besides the same three Paulbots flood these forums with their Paul worship so there needs to be opposing views and the truth posted, not the Paulbot polished truth either. "Paulbots"...ah, insults. The last resort of a man with no coherent argument. ![]() Not an insult, truth now if I called them Paultards like the rest of the world does that would be an insult. Paulbot is someone who has been influenced by a charasmatic cult type leader who shares simularaties to Jim Jones, David Koresh etc. I don't resort to insults or personal attacks when someone speaks bad about my idol, I cant say the same for the Paulbots though. psst! You're digging deeper into your hole! Stop now! ![]() |
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Hmmmmm.....let's see.... 2 RP posts by supporters in 2 days, 9 by a single non-supporter... Yep, we supporters are doing a bang-up job of flooding the forum! ![]() |
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Hmmmmm.....let's see.... 2 RP posts by supporters in 2 days, 9 by a single non-supporter... Yep, we supporters are doing a bang-up job of flooding the forum! ![]() He has a one track mind... ![]() ![]() |
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Sara Spafford Freeman, a 33-year-old communications consultant, has been a Kelly Clarkson fan since the singer’s "American Idol" days. But after she saw Clarkson’s Twitter endorsement of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, Spafford Freeman decided she could no longer endorse Clarkson. “I used to like Kelly Clarkson. But I can't like anyone who is either ignorant enough or arrogant enough to endorse a candidate like Ron Paul,” Spafford Freeman told Fox411 on Thursday from her home in Minnesota. “I have listened to ‘Since You've Been Gone’ for the last time.” Spafford Freeman’s comments are just part of the pushback the platinum-selling superstar and inaugural "American Idol" winner has been getting since she announced her support of Paul Wednesday night. "I love Ron Paul,” Clarkson tweeted. “I liked him a lot during the last Republican nomination and no one gave him a chance. If he wins the nomination for the Republican party in 2012 he's got my vote. Too bad he probably won't." Many of Clarkson’s Twitter followers immediately demanded that she retract her statement, but so far she’s refused. Among Clarkson’s critics on Twitter was user @kat_george, who tweeted: Ew just found out Kelly Clarkson luvs Ron Paul lyk, 4eva and stuff. Soz Kelly, not your fan anymore. And there was this one from @waflanagan: Oh Jebus Kelly Clarkson is a Ron Paul fan. My love for you has taken a severe hit, Kelly... Paul, who like Clarkson hails from Texas, has been roundly criticized over the last few weeks for having published a series of newsletters in the 1980s and ’90s that included racist and homophobic remarks. The newsletters’ content was revealed when Paul ran for president in 2008, but they got less attention because the congressman was never a front-running candidate. Polls currently show Paul neck-and-neck in next week’s Iowa caucuses with Mitt Romney. His policy platforms include significantly cutting military spending overseas and returning the country to the gold standard. Clarkson responded to her critics by saying that she supported Paul because of his stance on limited government. “I am really sorry if I have offended anyone. Obviously that was not my intent. I do not support racism. I support gay rights, straight rights, women's rights, men's rights, white/black/purple/orange rights,” she tweeted after being lambasted online. “I like Ron Paul because he believes in less government and letting the people (all of us) make the decisions and mold our country. That is all. Out of all of the Republican nominees, he's my favorite." Clarkson also tweeted that she had, “never heard that Ron Paul is a racist or a homophobe." Now the question is whether her political views will alienate a considerable portion of her fan base. “Kelly Clarkson has a very strong fan base of people who love her music and respect her as a person for her bold expression of her individuality time and time again,” says In Touch senior editor Dorothy Cascerceri. “Not every fan is going to care about her personal views, and when you have as loyal a fan base as she does, little will stop people from listening to her music, buying her CDs and music online.” Indeed many of Clarkson’s fans stood by her on a forum on her website. “Im glad Kelly stuck up for her opinion, that's what I love about her!" KellyFan_2011 posted Thursday afternoon on the forum. "She doesn't let any people push her around and its a really a shame, that some people rudely attack her because they have a different political opinion, she doesn't deserve that." But not everyone agrees. "For some Paul is seen as a homophobe and a racist. So for her fans, that may be sending them a message that she concurs with his homophobic and racist ideals," explains "Cult of Celebrity" author Cooper Lawrence. "This is a problem since she does have a wide variety of die hard fans which include gays and a wide range of ethnicities who are offended by her endorsement." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/30/kelly-clarkson-loses-some-fans-over-her-endorsement-ron-paul/#ixzz1i2tk6z7V ![]() just show how little people care about what job someone has and how wrapped up they get instead in personal business I will tell you, I will never choose my heart surgeon by how faithful he is to his wife or whom he supports politically I dont choose the music I like that way either,,,lol but Im finding myself a minority when it comes to not assessing peoples personal flaws when reviewing their jobs and talents... |
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As the newsletters burst into view, first during his 2008 presidential bid and again in recent weeks after he climbed to the front of the Republican race in Iowa, Paul has blamed the writings on ghostwriters. He said he was not aware of the "bad stuff," as he described it.
But one of Paul's own books, published solely under his name, contains several passages that could be problematic as he attempts to push his libertarian message into the political mainstream. In his 1987 manifesto "Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution after 200-Plus Years," Paul wrote that AIDS patients were victims of their own lifestyle, questioned the rights of minorities and argued that people who are sexually harassed at work should quit their jobs. The slim, 157-page volume was published ahead of Paul's 1988 Libertarian Party presidential bid and touches on many of the themes he continues to hammer on the stump. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/30/in-early-book-rep-ron-paul-criticized-aids-patients-minority-rights-and-sexual-harassment-victims/ |
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msharmony
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Fri 12/30/11 06:08 PM
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twenty three years ago,, how identical are your beliefs now to what they were twenty three years ago?
people who are harassed SHOULD quit their jobs AFTER they seek correction from the company and litigation if the company is unwilling to make the attempt people with AIDS are largely a product of their own lives, like any other person with an STD, but its still something that needs to be addressed and dealt with somehow on some level, either through better education(my personal favorite) for the intent of better prevention, or better healthcare for the intent of better maintenance or cures,,,, |
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As the newsletters burst into view, first during his 2008 presidential bid and again in recent weeks after he climbed to the front of the Republican race in Iowa, Paul has blamed the writings on ghostwriters. He said he was not aware of the "bad stuff," as he described it. But one of Paul's own books, published solely under his name, contains several passages that could be problematic as he attempts to push his libertarian message into the political mainstream. In his 1987 manifesto "Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution after 200-Plus Years," Paul wrote that AIDS patients were victims of their own lifestyle, questioned the rights of minorities and argued that people who are sexually harassed at work should quit their jobs. The slim, 157-page volume was published ahead of Paul's 1988 Libertarian Party presidential bid and touches on many of the themes he continues to hammer on the stump. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/30/in-early-book-rep-ron-paul-criticized-aids-patients-minority-rights-and-sexual-harassment-victims/ At the that time during the HIV/AIDS crisis everyone believed that to be true. Many believed because they didn't live that life style they were safe. It took time, learning, and study to show the world what it really was and that no one was immune. I can not fault him for believing what most of the world including the scientific world believed at the time. Views and opinions change with a little learning and knowledge behind you. Once people thought the world was flat......one people believed one race dumber than another......once the people believed if you got sick it was demons......once the world belived in pagan statues.............once the world believed in slavery..........once the world believed in Kings and Queens......guess it just depends on the century, the beliefs, and the learnings........did the Minotaur really exists? Yep, in the Author's own mind!!! |
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