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love is not exclusive, it can exist along with all other emotions, from anger, to hate certainly , during the stages of any of those other emotions, if they overtake the love , betrayals can happen but they are still betrayals,,, why does love have to be exclusive and absolute real talk I can honestly I say I Love more than 1 girl right now ....why is that wrong love does not have to be exclusive or absolute,, commitments are absolute though I can commit to a exclusive relationship with a girl as in living with her dating , us putting up with each others habits, but that don't include me being absolute with one partner to sleep with nor go out with as friends if there is MORE than one, its not EXCLUSIVE,,,, but people can AGREE to non exclusive commitments,, what they are committing to is a mystery to me though,,, just sounds like roommates with benefits, nothing exclusive or committed about that except for the rent that must be paid for either to keep a roof over their head ( a commitment to a landlord,,lol) |
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i never understood the concept really, hurting your best friend to get a nut? no, i don't get that.... at least give them the decency to leave first, yanno? i do dislike self-serving ******** that think the world, and other souls are for them to do what they please. we are all sacred, not in a religious sense, but a moral sense, to the point that deep inside, we really know what helps and what hurts. (right and wrong are more stipulative and grey, because of situational issues), but pain is not...it's either pain, or not pain. if one goes deep enough, their consience will overwelm them with their past deeds, even with decisions we thought were right at the time, and through learning, we find out we are dead wrong, and become devastated in our soul... but some have to live it out and perpetually make that mistake...and lose themselves in it. pitty we have to be on their learning end of it sometimes. i suppose you could love them.......but you'd be a very, very, very, selfish person. Now here's a man who knows how to talk to a woman...Hope you youngsters are paying attention... 
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i of course totally disagree darkowl
I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl Well make up your mind, are you selfish or not?... 
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love is not exclusive, it can exist along with all other emotions, from anger, to hate certainly , during the stages of any of those other emotions, if they overtake the love , betrayals can happen but they are still betrayals,,, why does love have to be exclusive and absolute real talk I can honestly I say I Love more than 1 girl right now ....why is that wrong There can be more , but you still remain exclusive to an idea. Hell I don't ever me and my current ever saying I can't sleep with another girl , maybe she thinks it is one of those things that don't need to be said , if that is the case she is sadly mistaken because unless she says something then how am I to really know it is not OK in her mind love does not have to be exclusive or absolute,, commitments are absolute though I can commit to a exclusive relationship with a girl as in living with her dating , us putting up with each others habits, but that don't include me being absolute with one partner to sleep with nor go out with as friends if there is MORE than one, its not EXCLUSIVE,,,, but people can AGREE to non exclusive commitments,, what they are committing to is a mystery to me though,,, just sounds like roommates with benefits, nothing exclusive or committed about that except for the rent that must be paid for either to keep a roof over their head ( a commitment to a landlord,,lol) |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl I dont advise it but the 'wrong' is in the lie that some people live allowing a partner to think they are in an exclusive relationship or expecting a partner to be in an exclusive relationship if they are not if people are being honest with each other in what they are planning, and their partner is fine with it,,,,thats not quite the same thing as a loving commitment,, thats just people being 'honest' and having their fun,,, |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl Well make up your mind, are you selfish or not?...
Hell to the NO I am not lol maybe in some peoples eyes but could thing my opinion is the only one that matters right hahahahaha |
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i never understood the concept really, hurting your best friend to get a nut? no, i don't get that.... at least give them the decency to leave first, yanno? i do dislike self-serving ******** that think the world, and other souls are for them to do what they please. we are all sacred, not in a religious sense, but a moral sense, to the point that deep inside, we really know what helps and what hurts. (right and wrong are more stipulative and grey, because of situational issues), but pain is not...it's either pain, or not pain. if one goes deep enough, their consience will overwelm them with their past deeds, even with decisions we thought were right at the time, and through learning, we find out we are dead wrong, and become devastated in our soul... but some have to live it out and perpetually make that mistake...and lose themselves in it. pitty we have to be on their learning end of it sometimes. i suppose you could love them.......but you'd be a very, very, very, selfish person. Now here's a man who knows how to talk to a woman...Hope you youngsters are paying attention...
i wouldn't say i'm all that. you humble me with the positive notion though, thankyou.... on topic: what one loses when they cheat, is their integrity. if i know a person is cheating, that i am acquainted with, or working with, and hiding something, i'm certainly not going to trust them, because they will eventually come to that conclusion to me, as, let's say they borrowed money from me....they, because i'm now a bother, and a thorn in their side, (even know i saved their *** earlier) will find and justify a reason not to pay me, because i'm now "lame" and ruining their fun, and when they want something aaagain, they wanna be all buddy buddy, and aawwe, that ole thing? let bygones be bygones, and .....lend me sommore money fool! when you cheat, you cheat on yourself, and break your WORD! it's the most valuable thing you have in life with a friend.... most that don't know this, haven't burned enough bridges yet i guess.... where did the integrity go? |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl I dont advise it but the 'wrong' is in the lie that some people live allowing a partner to think they are in an exclusive relationship or expecting a partner to be in an exclusive relationship if they are not if people are being honest with each other in what they are planning, and their partner is fine with it,,,,thats not quite the same thing as a loving commitment,, thats just people being 'honest' and having their fun,,, really who are we to define what a loving commitment really is, and I never expect a girl to remain exclusive to me, I think I travel far too much to ever ask that and I am not myself , but what she thinks in her head and came up with on her own is not my fault, I may be at fault for not addressing certain things but do i really have to it if I don't care, I say no. Am I a bad person for doing this , I don't think so because the times I am with her I still make her happy and I think that is what really matters anyways |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl I dont advise it but the 'wrong' is in the lie that some people live allowing a partner to think they are in an exclusive relationship or expecting a partner to be in an exclusive relationship if they are not if people are being honest with each other in what they are planning, and their partner is fine with it,,,,thats not quite the same thing as a loving commitment,, thats just people being 'honest' and having their fun,,, Agree Harmony, but he's been saying for two pages now that it's OK as long as you don't get caught..  .
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we are human, we can define what is honest and what is deceitful,
it is dishonest to let someone believe you are exclusive if you arent, thats where the word 'cheat' comes in if you have been honest about your intentions to just do whatever feels good to you when you feel it,, and the other agrees, there is no 'cheating' involved,,, |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl I dont advise it but the 'wrong' is in the lie that some people live allowing a partner to think they are in an exclusive relationship or expecting a partner to be in an exclusive relationship if they are not if people are being honest with each other in what they are planning, and their partner is fine with it,,,,thats not quite the same thing as a loving commitment,, thats just people being 'honest' and having their fun,,, Agree Harmony, but he's been saying for two pages now that it's OK as long as you don't get caught.. .
unfortunate philosophy,,,,experience will be a great teacher,,,, |
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Everyone gets caught eventually....except D.B. Cooper.
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i never understood the concept really, hurting your best friend to get a nut? no, i don't get that.... at least give them the decency to leave first, yanno? i do dislike self-serving ******** that think the world, and other souls are for them to do what they please. we are all sacred, not in a religious sense, but a moral sense, to the point that deep inside, we really know what helps and what hurts. (right and wrong are more stipulative and grey, because of situational issues), but pain is not...it's either pain, or not pain. if one goes deep enough, their consience will overwelm them with their past deeds, even with decisions we thought were right at the time, and through learning, we find out we are dead wrong, and become devastated in our soul... but some have to live it out and perpetually make that mistake...and lose themselves in it. pitty we have to be on their learning end of it sometimes. i suppose you could love them.......but you'd be a very, very, very, selfish person. Now here's a man who knows how to talk to a woman...Hope you youngsters are paying attention...
i wouldn't say i'm all that. you humble me with the positive notion though, thankyou.... on topic: what one loses when they cheat, is their integrity. if i know a person is cheating, that i am acquainted with, or working with, and hiding something, i'm certainly not going to trust them, because they will eventually come to that conclusion to me, as, let's say they borrowed money from me....they, because i'm now a bother, and a thorn in their side, (even know i saved their *** earlier) will find and justify a reason not to pay me, because i'm now "lame" and ruining their fun, and when they want something aaagain, they wanna be all buddy buddy, and aawwe, that ole thing? let bygones be bygones, and .....lend me sommore money fool! when you cheat, you cheat on yourself, and break your WORD! it's the most valuable thing you have in life with a friend.... most that don't know this, haven't burned enough bridges yet i guess.... where did the integrity go? I never tell a girl I am exclusive to them , I say they are my girl friend , and what that means to me and what it means to them may be different but it that isn't my fault , the only thing I am guilty of is letting a girl assume something and not correcting them but I don't think it is my job nor am I obligated to do that . I just want it to be clear I do have a sense of morals and when I say something it is truth but , I wont be responsible for someone assuming something from what I don't say. |
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i of course totally disagree darkowl I don't consider it selfish at all , if I am hooking up with someone , then she is having fun too and I am obviously entertaining her enough to want to sleep with me. and guilt is only for the religious in my opinion, so I don't think it will eat people up (at least it never eats me up) I am proud of my decisions I make because at the time I do something I know it is what I wanted, and that's what matters life is short enjoy NOW. Maybe I am selfish but I think I am just good at being able to entertain multiple women and keep myslef happy to and still maintain a good relationship with my MAIN girl if that is the case................i dare ya...i just dare ya to go, with no emotion, or care free like you are here, and tell the one that you are cheating with and see if you hurt her. if she has a negative reaction....any at all, your point here, and your defense here means nothing. if she throws a party and invites you to phucck her? well, it's a new world that i'll never understand. if she joins you and your other girl, which seems to be happening more and more, you can, i guess, be the egotistical stud that you think everyone envys....and keep playing your game....untill you meet that....ummm psyco
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i never understood the concept really, hurting your best friend to get a nut? no, i don't get that.... at least give them the decency to leave first, yanno? i do dislike self-serving ******** that think the world, and other souls are for them to do what they please. we are all sacred, not in a religious sense, but a moral sense, to the point that deep inside, we really know what helps and what hurts. (right and wrong are more stipulative and grey, because of situational issues), but pain is not...it's either pain, or not pain. if one goes deep enough, their consience will overwelm them with their past deeds, even with decisions we thought were right at the time, and through learning, we find out we are dead wrong, and become devastated in our soul... but some have to live it out and perpetually make that mistake...and lose themselves in it. pitty we have to be on their learning end of it sometimes. i suppose you could love them.......but you'd be a very, very, very, selfish person. Now here's a man who knows how to talk to a woman...Hope you youngsters are paying attention...
i wouldn't say i'm all that. you humble me with the positive notion though, thankyou.... on topic: what one loses when they cheat, is their integrity. if i know a person is cheating, that i am acquainted with, or working with, and hiding something, i'm certainly not going to trust them, because they will eventually come to that conclusion to me, as, let's say they borrowed money from me....they, because i'm now a bother, and a thorn in their side, (even know i saved their *** earlier) will find and justify a reason not to pay me, because i'm now "lame" and ruining their fun, and when they want something aaagain, they wanna be all buddy buddy, and aawwe, that ole thing? let bygones be bygones, and .....lend me sommore money fool! when you cheat, you cheat on yourself, and break your WORD! it's the most valuable thing you have in life with a friend.... most that don't know this, haven't burned enough bridges yet i guess.... where did the integrity go? I never tell a girl I am exclusive to them , I say they are my girl friend , and what that means to me and what it means to them may be different but it that isn't my fault , the only thing I am guilty of is letting a girl assume something and not correcting them but I don't think it is my job nor am I obligated to do that . I just want it to be clear I do have a sense of morals and when I say something it is truth but , I wont be responsible for someone assuming something from what I don't say. You can't be serious, you must be bored and trying to wind people up....So now you're going for semantics as a way to justify cheating?... |
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Experience is a great teacher indeed, I just get better and better at what I do lol
For example if I have a gf in Thailand but I am in the Philippines for a couple months I am going to get a new girl for the Philippines for my time here , and I will keep the girl in Thailand in contact because I do plan on going back so I must keep that going so I got a sure thing for when I get back And I have been caught before in this particular instance she was upset but she understood . and hell the Thai girl was probably seeing someone else, or hell maybe she just really liked me but she told me just to be safe use protection and keep in contact and when I got back to Thailand I still saw her and nothing was ever a problem Philippine girl was never mentioned. |
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Experience is a great teacher indeed, I just get better and better at what I do lol For example if I have a gf in Thailand but I am in the Philippines for a couple months I am going to get a new girl for the Philippines for my time here , and I will keep the girl in Thailand in contact because I do plan on going back so I must keep that going so I got a sure thing for when I get back And I have been caught before in this particular instance she was upset but she understood . and hell the Thai girl was probably seeing someone else, or hell maybe she just really liked me but she told me just to be safe use protection and keep in contact and when I got back to Thailand I still saw her and nothing was ever a problem Philippine girl was never mentioned. When you do fall in love, it's going to be bad, real bad for you... 
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Experience is a great teacher indeed, I just get better and better at what I do lol For example if I have a gf in Thailand but I am in the Philippines for a couple months I am going to get a new girl for the Philippines for my time here , and I will keep the girl in Thailand in contact because I do plan on going back so I must keep that going so I got a sure thing for when I get back And I have been caught before in this particular instance she was upset but she understood . and hell the Thai girl was probably seeing someone else, or hell maybe she just really liked me but she told me just to be safe use protection and keep in contact and when I got back to Thailand I still saw her and nothing was ever a problem Philippine girl was never mentioned. if this is the case, why identify them as girlfriends? sounds like an intention to deceive sounds like they are all just friends who you can sleep with,,,,, but again, semantics are a nice diversion,,, |
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I know Leigh and Owl think I am a troll but , here in Asia been doing this awhile now and things are going fine, I am not saying it is for everyone but I am just saying it is possible
I have been in love before and been in a exclusive committed marriage at a young age and I learned a lot from it and think those relationships do more harm than good to someone(at least to me it did) And doing what I do now the girls I have been with have been great I have been happier than ever, and I travel often so before anything gets to out of hand I always use that as an excuse to end things So I recommend it just let her believe what she wants in my book that is not wrong, and do your thing it is worth the good times and experience hahahha |
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