Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Sat 12/24/11 02:00 PM


How can a word be plural and not mean multiple of the same thing?

People is a plural word, it can not mean one person and multiple animals, or multiple houses, or any multiple other then different persons.


plural could be referring to presence ....wouldn't this apply to the serpent and the angels


No, because again in the example. The word "PEOPLE" is plural. It can NOT mean 1 person and 3 dogs or any possible example of such. Same with "God", it can only refer that of which is plural, not a serpent, not an angel.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:01 PM


Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:02 PM




I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation

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Sat 12/24/11 02:04 PM




I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...


There is The Son and the Holy Spirit though. The Son was in the form of The Word at that point and time, he had not taken on the flesh.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:05 PM

It was not genocide

Genocide = the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group


The Human Race would fall under all those categories...it's amazing how you are trying to justify Genocide ....are you sure you're not a fan of Hilter




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Sat 12/24/11 02:05 PM





I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:07 PM

We do not know if those people were destroyed or not, we do not know if they went to the paradise or if they were condemned to the grave.


I doubt the people that God was drowning was thinking about that

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Sat 12/24/11 02:08 PM


It was not genocide

Genocide = the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group


The Human Race would fall under all those categories...it's amazing how you are trying to justify Genocide ....are you sure you're not a fan of Hilter






Again, we know not if they were destroyed or not. We know not if they are in the paradise or not. So no, still not Genocide, for genocide to occur someone(s) have to be destroyed and again we know not if they were or weren't. We know not if they are in the paradise or not.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:08 PM


We do not know if those people were destroyed or not, we do not know if they went to the paradise or if they were condemned to the grave.


I doubt the people that God was drowning was thinking about that


irrelevant what they were thinking.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:09 PM



How can a word be plural and not mean multiple of the same thing?

People is a plural word, it can not mean one person and multiple animals, or multiple houses, or any multiple other then different persons.


plural could be referring to presence ....wouldn't this apply to the serpent and the angels


No, because again in the example. The word "PEOPLE" is plural. It can NOT mean 1 person and 3 dogs or any possible example of such. Same with "God", it can only refer that of which is plural, not a serpent, not an angel.


plural would refer to any life forms in existence at that point in time...no matter who and no matter what

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Sat 12/24/11 02:12 PM



Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner

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Sat 12/24/11 02:12 PM




How can a word be plural and not mean multiple of the same thing?

People is a plural word, it can not mean one person and multiple animals, or multiple houses, or any multiple other then different persons.


plural could be referring to presence ....wouldn't this apply to the serpent and the angels


No, because again in the example. The word "PEOPLE" is plural. It can NOT mean 1 person and 3 dogs or any possible example of such. Same with "God", it can only refer that of which is plural, not a serpent, not an angel.


plural would refer to any life forms in existence at that point in time...no matter who and no matter what


No, only plural to that being in mention. The word "Dogs" does not mean 1 dog and 2 cats, or 1 dog and any other being. Means just that, multiple dogs.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:13 PM





I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...


There is The Son and the Holy Spirit though. The Son was in the form of The Word at that point and time, he had not taken on the flesh.


there is nothing about "The Word" in Genesis

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Sat 12/24/11 02:13 PM




Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner


At that point and time the only law we had for reproduction was to fill the Earth and subdue it.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:15 PM






I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...


There is The Son and the Holy Spirit though. The Son was in the form of The Word at that point and time, he had not taken on the flesh.


there is nothing about "The Word" in Genesis


Because the Word is one with the father, he is "God". At this point and time, there was no specific reason to separate the persons of God. It also doesn't say "The Father". Just says "God and LORD God in certain places".

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Sat 12/24/11 02:16 PM






I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.


well since the author was narrating the bible...logic would dictate that the verse was being narrated by the author

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Sat 12/24/11 02:18 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sat 12/24/11 02:19 PM







I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.


well since the author was narrating the bible...logic would dictate that the verse was being narrated by the author


No the Author was merely passing on information, not dictated by his thoughts or feelings.

It's not a story someone just made up, sat down, and wrote/narrated what they wanted it to say.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:19 PM





Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner


At that point and time the only law we had for reproduction was to fill the Earth and subdue it.


doesn't matter...God commanded Adam and Eve to commit incest and forever thrust mankind into sin ...this is why Jesus would have to destroy all of mankind to get rid of original Sin....perhaps he will do that in The Rapture

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Sat 12/24/11 02:22 PM






Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner


At that point and time the only law we had for reproduction was to fill the Earth and subdue it.


doesn't matter...God commanded Adam and Eve to commit incest and forever thrust mankind into sin ...this is why Jesus would have to destroy all of mankind to get rid of original Sin....perhaps he will do that in The Rapture


Again no, "Sin" is not an object. It is disobedience to God. The commandment from God about this was to fill the Earth and subdue it. And besides that, Jesus wouldn't have to destroy anything to get rid of the original sin. Only offer forgiveness if one wishes to accept it. Jesus died for each and everyone of our sins. We are not condemned by any "original sin". Original sin has no more power over us, has no bearing.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:23 PM







I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...


There is The Son and the Holy Spirit though. The Son was in the form of The Word at that point and time, he had not taken on the flesh.


there is nothing about "The Word" in Genesis


Because the Word is one with the father, he is "God". At this point and time, there was no specific reason to separate the persons of God. It also doesn't say "The Father". Just says "God and LORD God in certain places".


you just recently claim that the holy spirit and the holy ghost was two seperated entites because the names was mention in different places ...and then you discovereed that you were wrong about that ....