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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Sat 12/24/11 12:58 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Sat 12/24/11 01:36 AM

THE "US" IS ONE ENTITY !!!

THE" US " IS REFERRING TO THE 3 PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY !!!

THAT ONE ENTITY IS THE ONE SUPREME BEING WE CALL GOD

ALMIGHTY !!!





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Sat 12/24/11 07:15 AM



When did I claim that? What in the world are you talking about? Jesus did die for us, he felt the pain of death for everyone of us.


didn't you claim that Jesus is still alive....that would mean that he didn't die ...


He resurrected, he defeated death, it could not hold his soul.


defeated death means that you didn't die ....

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Sat 12/24/11 07:20 AM



Again, what in the world are you talking about? Explain to me how it is "evil" what God did there. These babies will never have to feel any form of pain again, physical or emotional. They will never deal with sickness, disabilities, or any other foul possibility. They will only ever feel love through their lives, only ever feel pleasure. So where exactly is the "evil" at?


so is that what you tell babies just before you kill them


Now you're accusing me of killing a baby? lol. Again, what does it matter? So they felt a brief period of pain and torment to spend the rest of ETERNITY in the paradise with our father.


I'm saying the you approve of Genocide...and those that do it ...like Hitler, Stalin,your God

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Sat 12/24/11 07:34 AM











The word "god" is not a being, it is a descriptive word of the being in mention. That's why there is God the Father and God the Son. And they are one God.


Dude which church did you attend....did the pastor have hoofs?

but anyway...if God is only a descriptive word as you keep claiming.....then let's see you not use it anymore

would you like to make a vow not to use it again atleast here in Mingles2 .....let's see you put your tithes....oops ...I meant let's see you put your money where your mouth is....

if you can't...then stop doing the work of Satan by claiming that God is only a title


We do not know God's name, so in turn we refer to God as just that, God. Jesus only referred to his father as his father and his God, he did not give a name. So when speaking about him, to show who we are referring to, we must call him "God" as again, we know not his name.


according to you his name is The Father, Jesus and The Holy Spirit....so there is no need to use the term God since according to you it's nothing more than just a title of authority

so are you going to stop using the term God here in Mingle2?


I NEVER said his name was The Father, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit. Those are titles just as the word "God" is.


Cowboy....remember you said that Jesus was God.....oh oh....seems like you made another contradiction


No contradiction. Only again your misunderstandings. Jesus is OUR God. Again "God" is not an entity in it's own. "God's" name would not be specifically Jesus as even while Jesus was on the cross he yelled out "My God". Would it have made much sense if he would have yelled out "Jesus"?


if you claim that the name of God is Jesus...then there is no reason to use the term "God"....so are you willing to stop using it atleast here in mingle2?


Why would I?


a false idol worshipper couldn't .....they would find that it's impossible to do

those the wrote the bible made sure that no one could claim that their false idol was the God in Genesis during the 6 days of Creation and this is why they did not place any other name there but "GOD"

but anyway you're failure to comply with the request to no longer use the term "God" in Mingle2 was my way to make you see the light as to why there is no mention of any Lord God, or Yahweh or Jehovah, or The Word during the 6 days of Creation

anyone or anything that claim to be God but did not have the power of God would automatically proved theirselves to be a false idol




but anyway you're failure to comply with the request to no longer use the term "God" in Mingle2 was my way to make you see the light as to why there is no mention of any Lord God, or Yahweh or Jehovah, or The Word during the 6 days of Creation


Now you're lying again? For one, in the KJV it specifically says "These are the days when the LORD God made Earth and Heaven". Secondly if you refer to the original scriptures, most everywhere the word "god" is used, is in place of Yehweh.


Cowboy you can barely conceive English bible scripture, so don't hurt your brain by trying to read Hebrew scripture, stick to the KJV since you always quote from it

again in the KJV the 6 days of Creation ends at Genesis 2:1 ....so far you keep giving me verses after the 6 days of creation,

the bible has placed in safe guards to keep false idol worshippers from including their false idol into the 6 days of Creation

this is why you will not be able to supply a verse of the existence of your supposedly Lord God Jesus during those 6 days

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Sat 12/24/11 07:48 AM

.............Question: "Why does God refer to Himself

in the plural in Genesis 1:26 and 3:22?"...............



Answer: Genesis 1:26 says, “Then GOD said, 'Let US make man in OUR

image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea

and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth,

and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'” Genesis

3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like

one of US...'" There are other Scriptures in the Old Testament that

refer to God using the plural. It is also interesting to note

that "ELOHIM," one of the primary titles of God in the Old Testament

(occurring over 2500 times), is in the plural.



the plural does not mean that God was talking to other Gods....not all Christians believe in The Trinity....

some Christians will tell you that God was talking to the angel Gabriel...

also he could have been talking to the serpent in the garden when God stated that Man has become like us ...

here's a question for you...

Did the serpent know good and evil?


that one question can collapse the entire concept of Man's Fall from the Garden

if the serpent knew good and evil...that shows how God could have been talking to the serpent

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Sat 12/24/11 08:02 AM

Cowboy,IF you STILL think they are not One

Entity...then you never " got it" afterall....

I honestly thought you finally finally finally

understood.....but I see now you still don't.


Believe as you wish...I am done trying to explain.

Only God can show you now.



:heart::heart::heart:




God is not going to try and debate with Cowboy, that's why he sent his only "Begotten Son" ...

then Jesus said ,oh hell no, my god my god why hath thou forsaken me

then Jesus ask Pilate ....crucify me ....please

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Sat 12/24/11 12:39 PM




When did I claim that? What in the world are you talking about? Jesus did die for us, he felt the pain of death for everyone of us.


didn't you claim that Jesus is still alive....that would mean that he didn't die ...


He resurrected, he defeated death, it could not hold his soul.


defeated death means that you didn't die ....


No, just means death couldn't hold his soul.

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Sat 12/24/11 12:43 PM




Again, what in the world are you talking about? Explain to me how it is "evil" what God did there. These babies will never have to feel any form of pain again, physical or emotional. They will never deal with sickness, disabilities, or any other foul possibility. They will only ever feel love through their lives, only ever feel pleasure. So where exactly is the "evil" at?


so is that what you tell babies just before you kill them


Now you're accusing me of killing a baby? lol. Again, what does it matter? So they felt a brief period of pain and torment to spend the rest of ETERNITY in the paradise with our father.


I'm saying the you approve of Genocide...and those that do it ...like Hitler, Stalin,your God


No I don't, what God did wasn't Genocide, nor was does it have any similarities to your examples. God is our judge, he judges with a righteous hand. We are God's creation, he can do with us what he wishes. Our flesh was born to die, this flesh is merely temporary, it is merely a temporary holding place for Judgement. The only person that kills anyone is themselves through the actions one takes in life. Yes God is the Judge on who achieves eternal life and who dies. But nevertheless he judges us on our actions, therefore it is our fault if we make it to the paradise or not. It is taking responsibility for one's own actions.

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Sat 12/24/11 12:47 PM












The word "god" is not a being, it is a descriptive word of the being in mention. That's why there is God the Father and God the Son. And they are one God.


Dude which church did you attend....did the pastor have hoofs?

but anyway...if God is only a descriptive word as you keep claiming.....then let's see you not use it anymore

would you like to make a vow not to use it again atleast here in Mingles2 .....let's see you put your tithes....oops ...I meant let's see you put your money where your mouth is....

if you can't...then stop doing the work of Satan by claiming that God is only a title


We do not know God's name, so in turn we refer to God as just that, God. Jesus only referred to his father as his father and his God, he did not give a name. So when speaking about him, to show who we are referring to, we must call him "God" as again, we know not his name.


according to you his name is The Father, Jesus and The Holy Spirit....so there is no need to use the term God since according to you it's nothing more than just a title of authority

so are you going to stop using the term God here in Mingle2?


I NEVER said his name was The Father, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit. Those are titles just as the word "God" is.


Cowboy....remember you said that Jesus was God.....oh oh....seems like you made another contradiction


No contradiction. Only again your misunderstandings. Jesus is OUR God. Again "God" is not an entity in it's own. "God's" name would not be specifically Jesus as even while Jesus was on the cross he yelled out "My God". Would it have made much sense if he would have yelled out "Jesus"?


if you claim that the name of God is Jesus...then there is no reason to use the term "God"....so are you willing to stop using it atleast here in mingle2?


Why would I?


a false idol worshipper couldn't .....they would find that it's impossible to do

those the wrote the bible made sure that no one could claim that their false idol was the God in Genesis during the 6 days of Creation and this is why they did not place any other name there but "GOD"

but anyway you're failure to comply with the request to no longer use the term "God" in Mingle2 was my way to make you see the light as to why there is no mention of any Lord God, or Yahweh or Jehovah, or The Word during the 6 days of Creation

anyone or anything that claim to be God but did not have the power of God would automatically proved theirselves to be a false idol




but anyway you're failure to comply with the request to no longer use the term "God" in Mingle2 was my way to make you see the light as to why there is no mention of any Lord God, or Yahweh or Jehovah, or The Word during the 6 days of Creation


Now you're lying again? For one, in the KJV it specifically says "These are the days when the LORD God made Earth and Heaven". Secondly if you refer to the original scriptures, most everywhere the word "god" is used, is in place of Yehweh.


Cowboy you can barely conceive English bible scripture, so don't hurt your brain by trying to read Hebrew scripture, stick to the KJV since you always quote from it

again in the KJV the 6 days of Creation ends at Genesis 2:1 ....so far you keep giving me verses after the 6 days of creation,

the bible has placed in safe guards to keep false idol worshippers from including their false idol into the 6 days of Creation

this is why you will not be able to supply a verse of the existence of your supposedly Lord God Jesus during those 6 days



the bible has placed in safe guards to keep false idol worshippers from including their false idol into the 6 days of Creation

this is why you will not be able to supply a verse of the existence of your supposedly Lord God Jesus during those 6 days


I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


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Sat 12/24/11 12:49 PM


.............Question: "Why does God refer to Himself

in the plural in Genesis 1:26 and 3:22?"...............



Answer: Genesis 1:26 says, “Then GOD said, 'Let US make man in OUR

image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea

and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth,

and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'” Genesis

3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like

one of US...'" There are other Scriptures in the Old Testament that

refer to God using the plural. It is also interesting to note

that "ELOHIM," one of the primary titles of God in the Old Testament

(occurring over 2500 times), is in the plural.



the plural does not mean that God was talking to other Gods....not all Christians believe in The Trinity....

some Christians will tell you that God was talking to the angel Gabriel...

also he could have been talking to the serpent in the garden when God stated that Man has become like us ...

here's a question for you...

Did the serpent know good and evil?


that one question can collapse the entire concept of Man's Fall from the Garden

if the serpent knew good and evil...that shows how God could have been talking to the serpent


How can a word be plural and not mean multiple of the same thing?

People is a plural word, it can not mean one person and multiple animals, or multiple houses, or any multiple other then different persons.

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Sat 12/24/11 01:27 PM





When did I claim that? What in the world are you talking about? Jesus did die for us, he felt the pain of death for everyone of us.


didn't you claim that Jesus is still alive....that would mean that he didn't die ...


He resurrected, he defeated death, it could not hold his soul.


defeated death means that you didn't die ....


No, just means death couldn't hold his soul.


if death couldn't hold your soul that means you didn't die ...how many people do you know that are walking around that died and didn't have a soul ...you're beginning to sound delusional

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Sat 12/24/11 01:41 PM






When did I claim that? What in the world are you talking about? Jesus did die for us, he felt the pain of death for everyone of us.


didn't you claim that Jesus is still alive....that would mean that he didn't die ...


He resurrected, he defeated death, it could not hold his soul.


defeated death means that you didn't die ....


No, just means death couldn't hold his soul.


if death couldn't hold your soul that means you didn't die ...how many people do you know that are walking around that died and didn't have a soul ...you're beginning to sound delusional


Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.

Acts 2:31
31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

1 Peter 3:18
18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit

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Sat 12/24/11 01:42 PM

I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord

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Sat 12/24/11 01:48 PM


I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.

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Sat 12/24/11 01:49 PM



I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.

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Sat 12/24/11 01:54 PM
No I don't, what God did wasn't Genocide,

Cowboy....trying to wipe out the human race and The Nephilim during the Great Flood is classified as being Genocide ...but you seem to believe that killing massive amount of people including babies is justifiable Love .....

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Sat 12/24/11 01:56 PM

How can a word be plural and not mean multiple of the same thing?

People is a plural word, it can not mean one person and multiple animals, or multiple houses, or any multiple other then different persons.


plural could be referring to presence ....wouldn't this apply to the serpent and the angels

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Sat 12/24/11 01:57 PM

Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins

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Sat 12/24/11 01:59 PM

No I don't, what God did wasn't Genocide,


Cowboy....trying to wipe out the human race and The Nephilim during the Great Flood is classified as being Genocide ...but you seem to believe that killing massive amount of people including babies is justifiable Love .....


It was not genocide

Genocide = the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

We do not know if those people were destroyed or not, we do not know if they went to the paradise or if they were condemned to the grave.


killing massive amount of people including babies is justifiable Love


We do not know if these people were killed or not. They could have ever lasting life in the paradise for all we know.

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Sat 12/24/11 01:59 PM



I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...

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