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Topic: The Cost of Israel to Americans
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Sat 11/26/11 09:04 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Sat 11/26/11 09:07 AM
We Americans are the ones footing the bill all the while our country goes bankrupt and we are asked to make more and more sacrafices.

Its simply absurd for those who recieve US aid to continue sucking on the US teat.

I chose Israel as an exampl because they are the worst ally a country could have and recieve more aid than any other country and need it the least.

Simply absurd.

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Sat 11/26/11 09:05 AM
Those sites are certainly not hate sites.

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Sat 11/26/11 09:07 AM

Those sites are certainly not hate sites.


OMG!laugh

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Sat 11/26/11 09:09 AM
Yes, why would anyone from Zurich even be interested in the topic of money going to Israel from America unless he has some vested interest?

I don't think input on the subject is even relevant coming from people who aren't involved.


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Sat 11/26/11 09:12 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 11/26/11 09:14 AM

Yes, why would anyone from Zurich even be interested in the topic of money going to Israel from America unless he has some vested interest?

I don't think input on the subject is even relevant coming from people who aren't involved.


More Conspiracy?laugh


Besides I would hate to see the US Sixth Fleet patrol up and down the Rio Grande!

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 11/26/11 09:15 AM

Yes, why would anyone from Zurich even be interested in the topic of money going to Israel from America unless he has some vested interest?

I don't think input on the subject is even relevant coming from people who aren't involved.


Exactly most of the free world has some type of socialised medical care and public transportation, we americans pay our own way in about every way you can think of.

We are in hard economic times and before we gut what little social programs we have we need to cut off aid to other countries FIRST.

Lets see how well the books balance after we do that and then talk about how much more grandma is going to have to pay for the presicription she needs to stay alive.

Occupy EVerything we are getting screwed again and again!

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Sat 11/26/11 09:17 AM


Yes, why would anyone from Zurich even be interested in the topic of money going to Israel from America unless he has some vested interest?

I don't think input on the subject is even relevant coming from people who aren't involved.


Exactly most of the free world has some type of socialised medical care and public transportation, we americans pay our own way in about every way you can think of.

We are in hard economic times and before we gut what little social programs we have we need to cut off aid to other countries FIRST.

Lets see how well the books balance after we do that and then talk about how much more grandma is going to have to pay for the presicription she needs to stay alive.

Occupy EVerything we are getting screwed again and again!


drinker :thumbsup:

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Sat 11/26/11 09:31 AM
You do not pay US taxes. You do not have to listen to old people complain about the high cost of medications and see them makeing choices about food they need to live or meds they need to live.

You do not live in the country that takes our hard earned tax dollars and then hands them over to another government then reads in the news that that government has been spying on us.

Your as far removed from this debate as a person can belaugh

However its probably good for you to keep your mind engaged and I commend you for that but forgive me if I do not take you seriously.




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Sat 11/26/11 09:32 AM

You do not pay US taxes. You do not have to listen to old people complain about the high cost of medications and see them makeing choices about food they need to live or meds they need to live.

You do not live in the country that takes our hard earned tax dollars and then hands them over to another government then reads in the news that that government has been spying on us.

Your as far removed from this debate as a person can belaugh

However its probably good for you to keep your mind engaged and I commend you for that but forgive me if I do not take you seriously.




Who says I do not pay US-Taxes?

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Sat 11/26/11 09:33 AM
America is facing a grave situation. Our troops are in the Middle East, and we send money to both sides of the conflict and we apparently supply the weapons that kill our soldiers, our sons and daughters.

This is a situation for concerned Americans to appose.

I appose Zionism, I appose sending money to any country involved in the conflict in the Middle East, I apposed invading Iraq.

That is my stand.

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Sat 11/26/11 09:37 AM

America is facing a grave situation. Our troops are in the Middle East, and we send money to both sides of the conflict and we apparently supply the weapons that kill our soldiers, our sons and daughters.

This is a situation for concerned Americans to appose.

I appose Zionism, I appose sending money to any country involved in the conflict in the Middle East, I apposed invading Iraq.

That is my stand.
then you do oppose the Sixth Fleet being berthed in Haifa as well,since that eats up most of the money sent to Israel?
Thus my quip about the Sixth Fleet patrolling up and Down the Rio Grande!

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Sat 11/26/11 09:45 AM


America is facing a grave situation. Our troops are in the Middle East, and we send money to both sides of the conflict and we apparently supply the weapons that kill our soldiers, our sons and daughters.

This is a situation for concerned Americans to appose.

I appose Zionism, I appose sending money to any country involved in the conflict in the Middle East, I apposed invading Iraq.

That is my stand.
then you do oppose the Sixth Fleet being berthed in Haifa as well,since that eats up most of the money sent to Israel?
Thus my quip about the Sixth Fleet patrolling up and Down the Rio Grande!



I haven't heard much about the Sixth Fleet or about it being berthed in Haifa and why would I care if it was patrolling up and down the Rio Grande?



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Sat 11/26/11 11:19 AM
SO right!!!

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 11/26/11 11:28 AM

America is facing a grave situation. Our troops are in the Middle East, and we send money to both sides of the conflict and we apparently supply the weapons that kill our soldiers, our sons and daughters.

This is a situation for concerned Americans to appose.

I appose Zionism, I appose sending money to any country involved in the conflict in the Middle East, I apposed invading Iraq.

That is my stand.


If I were an American I would take the same stand. It would be interesting to see where other people stand rather than bash and ridicule your opinion.

What I find quite worrying is the lack of support on here from your fellow Americans.

Your main opponents and mine are from outside America.....interesting

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Sat 11/26/11 11:34 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 11/26/11 11:39 AM


America is facing a grave situation. Our troops are in the Middle East, and we send money to both sides of the conflict and we apparently supply the weapons that kill our soldiers, our sons and daughters.

This is a situation for concerned Americans to appose.

I appose Zionism, I appose sending money to any country involved in the conflict in the Middle East, I apposed invading Iraq.

That is my stand.


If I were an American I would take the same stand. It would be interesting to see where other people stand rather than bash and ridicule your opinion.

What I find quite worrying is the lack of support on here from your fellow Americans.

Your main opponents and mine are from outside America.....interesting
Maybe not all Americans are as gullible!

They might just a wee bit better informed!

BTW,what Dog do you have in the Race,being from NI?

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Sat 11/26/11 12:42 PM
What I find quite worrying is the lack of support on here from your fellow Americans.

Your main opponents and mine are from outside America.....interesting



Our main stream media caters to movie stars and political scandals. They seldom report on world affairs.

By the time something appears on the news here, I've read or heard about it on line for a week. Today they were talking about the judge that beat his daughter. We've been talking about that on Mingle for more than a week. laugh

If you aren't on the Internet, and you live in America, you are not at all well informed about much of anything.

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 11/26/11 01:02 PM

What I find quite worrying is the lack of support on here from your fellow Americans.

Your main opponents and mine are from outside America.....interesting



Our main stream media caters to movie stars and political scandals. They seldom report on world affairs.

By the time something appears on the news here, I've read or heard about it on line for a week. Today they were talking about the judge that beat his daughter. We've been talking about that on Mingle for more than a week. laugh

If you aren't on the Internet, and you live in America, you are not at all well informed about much of anything.


There is some sort of Press Freedom left at this side of the world but Rupie tried his best to dumb us down but failed.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that one can get a hell of a lot of news on the internet.....

Some people are very afraid of the truth.:thumbsup: waving flowerforyou drinker




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Sat 11/26/11 01:07 PM
So afraid as a matter of fact,they jump at any old Conspiracy Theory as long it shows the Joos and Israel in a bad light!laugh

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Sat 11/26/11 01:12 PM
Edited by 5apphire on Sat 11/26/11 02:01 PM


What I find quite worrying is the lack of support on here from your fellow Americans.

Your main opponents and mine are from outside America.....interesting



Our main stream media caters to movie stars and political scandals. They seldom report on world affairs.

By the time something appears on the news here, I've read or heard about it on line for a week. Today they were talking about the judge that beat his daughter. We've been talking about that on Mingle for more than a week. laugh

If you aren't on the Internet, and you live in America, you are not at all well informed about much of anything.



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Sat 11/26/11 01:15 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 11/26/11 01:16 PM

Conrad_73
Maybe not all Americans are as gullible!

They might just a wee bit better informed!



Who are you referring to?

Better informed than who?

Are you attempting to make this personal?





Notice your question was not replied to.......but my post was.....tells its own story...



So Back to the topic


In the 1997 fiscal year, for example, Israel received $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, at least $525 million from other U.S. budgets, and $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the 1997 total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel was $5.5 billion. That’s $15,068,493 per day, 365 days a year.



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