Topic: Are we making our future generations into sissies??
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Sun 11/20/11 09:40 AM
Edited by sweetestgirl11 on Sun 11/20/11 09:43 AM

When I was in school, I played alot of volleyball. I took a pretty powerful spike straight in the face, teared up because I got hit right between the eyes, took a time out until my vision cleared and got right back in the game. I don't think taking away the pain of learning helps them in the slightest. If that ball hits you, you learn to dodge move, and that's how major league sports players learned their moves.


it depends on the injury. I was hit between the eyes in hockey and sat out for 3 days

I had to student teach with 2 black eyes....embarrassing (the boys thought it was cool, of course)

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Sun 11/20/11 09:42 AM


Safety is is one issue that should be taken very seriously. As far as making wusses of children...the term I believe is mainly applied to boys/males.

Testosterone is a natural ingredient and should be used primarily in making/showing love not war.



I grew up with some pretty athletic tough girls.....so no I wouldn't equate this with boys or males......We are equals.....at least in the US


I grew up with similar girls and they were interested in fighting....I wasn'tlaugh drinker laugh drinker

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Sun 11/20/11 09:45 AM
Edited by sweetestgirl11 on Sun 11/20/11 09:48 AM



Safety is is one issue that should be taken very seriously. As far as making wusses of children...the term I believe is mainly applied to boys/males.

Testosterone is a natural ingredient and should be used primarily in making/showing love not war.



I grew up with some pretty athletic tough girls.....so no I wouldn't equate this with boys or males......We are equals.....at least in the US


I grew up with similar girls and they were interested in fighting....I wasn'tlaugh drinker laugh drinker


I have been an athlete all of my life and have never been interested in fighting, nor were my friends on the teams I played on

I think that is a worn out old stereotype of women athletes from some men, mostly in my generation, that honestly optimistica, is offensive

I have never been in a fight


(to add an edit - I have been attacked, but never by an athlete, and I did not fight. I did what I had to do to get away & avoid the fighters - who, again, were usually not the jocks)

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Sun 11/20/11 09:58 AM




Safety is is one issue that should be taken very seriously. As far as making wusses of children...the term I believe is mainly applied to boys/males.

Testosterone is a natural ingredient and should be used primarily in making/showing love not war.



I grew up with some pretty athletic tough girls.....so no I wouldn't equate this with boys or males......We are equals.....at least in the US


I grew up with similar girls and they were interested in fighting....I wasn'tlaugh drinker laugh drinker


I have been an athlete all of my life and have never been interested in fighting, nor were my friends on the teams I played on

I think that is a worn out old stereotype of women athletes from some men, mostly in my generation, that honestly optimistica, is offensive

I have never been in a fight


(to add an edit - I have been attacked, but never by an athlete, and I did not fight. I did what I had to do to get away & avoid the fighters - who, again, were usually not the jocks)

Exactly, I do not equate sports with fighting at all. I agree I have been attacked by others, and only held them down never responded with fighting, just keeping my person safe from them.

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Sun 11/20/11 10:01 AM



I have been an athlete all of my life and have never been interested in fighting, nor were my friends on the teams I played on

I think that is a worn out old stereotype of women athletes from some men, mostly in my generation, that honestly optimistica, is offensive

I have never been in a fight


(to add an edit - I have been attacked, but never by an athlete, and I did not fight. I did what I had to do to get away & avoid the fighters - who, again, were usually not the jocks)


You didn't get the Irish humour there...No Offenseflowerforyou

Your Jocks I presume mean Boys/males.

Jocks to us are Male and Scottish (from Scotland)

We need to become Globalists to overcome our cultural differenceslaugh drinker

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Sun 11/20/11 10:05 AM




I have been an athlete all of my life and have never been interested in fighting, nor were my friends on the teams I played on

I think that is a worn out old stereotype of women athletes from some men, mostly in my generation, that honestly optimistica, is offensive

I have never been in a fight


(to add an edit - I have been attacked, but never by an athlete, and I did not fight. I did what I had to do to get away & avoid the fighters - who, again, were usually not the jocks)


You didn't get the Irish humour there...No Offenseflowerforyou

Your Jocks I presume mean Boys/males.

Jocks to us are Male and Scottish (from Scotland)

We need to become Globalists to overcome our cultural differenceslaugh drinker


no jocks here can refer to athletes of both genders - I was referring mostly to my female team mates - but most of the males really weren't the fighting types either as I recall

a couple of them were -I said usually because there's always a few who will fight

but mostly sports will redirect the agression - another of the values

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Sun 11/20/11 10:16 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Sun 11/20/11 10:17 AM
a morning radio show i listen to calls it "the pussifacation of america"


and i blame the liberals...

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Sun 11/20/11 10:25 AM
Obviously, I chose sarcasm as the method of illustrating my point. This ban on balls at recess seems a tad overprotective.

We have a way of trying to shelter our children too much, but the truth is that pain and making mistakes are two of the more basic ways that children learn on their own. Unlike education, children gain a more intimate understanding from the experience. It becomes ingrained....innate.

I think the point of the ban (without having any knowledge other than the OP) is in reference to bullying, not safety. Hence the reference to "projectiles". Kids can be ruthless in a game of dodgeball or suicide. Even playing baseball, there is an occasional kid who thinks it would be entertaining to bean another kid with a hardball. However, taking the balls away from all kids is not the proper way to handle the situation. Children need to learn to stand up to bullies in order to stop the bullying. Sometimes adults do need to intervene to prevent things from getting out of hand. But taking the balls away (no pun intended) is just a way of avoiding the fundamental issue.

After reading an article on the ban (which I did after starting to type this), it has become apparent that neither the faculty nor the parents are able to control the children. It's a knee-jerk solution that punishes everyone without exposing the troublemakers who started the problem in the first place. More than likely, only a handful of kids began the trend of pelting students, parents, and teachers with the balls. If the children began doing it out of mischief, there is likely at least one who is problem child....a bully. That child (or even children) are going to continue the pattern of behavior with or without the balls. It will just become redirected in another manner of rebellious behavior.

They are merely treating the symptom rather than curing the disease.

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Sun 11/20/11 10:28 AM
Clint Eastwood for President!!!!!!

:tongue:

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Sun 11/20/11 10:32 AM
Seriously....when I was a kid we had rock fights. Literally threw rocks at each other. We played full contact tackle football with no pads. If a kid in my neighborhood dared to wear a bicycle helmet.....he'd get his butt kicked. We skateboarded impossible things....did dangerous and impossible stunts on bicycles and snowboards. I had my share of injuries and stitches....but it's all part of growing up.

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Sun 11/20/11 10:42 AM

Obviously, I chose sarcasm as the method of illustrating my point. This ban on balls at recess seems a tad overprotective.

We have a way of trying to shelter our children too much, but the truth is that pain and making mistakes are two of the more basic ways that children learn on their own. Unlike education, children gain a more intimate understanding from the experience. It becomes ingrained....innate.

I think the point of the ban (without having any knowledge other than the OP) is in reference to bullying, not safety. Hence the reference to "projectiles". Kids can be ruthless in a game of dodgeball or suicide. Even playing baseball, there is an occasional kid who thinks it would be entertaining to bean another kid with a hardball. However, taking the balls away from all kids is not the proper way to handle the situation. Children need to learn to stand up to bullies in order to stop the bullying. Sometimes adults do need to intervene to prevent things from getting out of hand. But taking the balls away (no pun intended) is just a way of avoiding the fundamental issue.

After reading an article on the ban (which I did after starting to type this), it has become apparent that neither the faculty nor the parents are able to control the children. It's a knee-jerk solution that punishes everyone without exposing the troublemakers who started the problem in the first place. More than likely, only a handful of kids began the trend of pelting students, parents, and teachers with the balls. If the children began doing it out of mischief, there is likely at least one who is problem child....a bully. That child (or even children) are going to continue the pattern of behavior with or without the balls. It will just become redirected in another manner of rebellious behavior.

They are merely treating the symptom rather than curing the disease.

Agreed

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Sun 11/20/11 10:45 AM
We also played a game on the playground that was named something I won't dare mention in case I dare offend anybody.... :tongue: but the school never tried to curtail it. It was basically a form of rugby with no rules. Anybody holding the ball was a target to get tackled. Now....anybody playing this knew how it went. If they didn't wanna' get tackled.....they just threw the ball to somebody else. If they were afraid they'd get hurt....they could always opt to not play. To the best of my knowledge....nobody was ever seriously hurt. I had a lot of fun playing that game.........

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Sun 11/20/11 10:53 AM
Edited by Dict8 on Sun 11/20/11 10:53 AM
BTW....I was a skinny, weak kid. I was sickly and far from being a physical powerhouse, so this is not a case of bullying or whatever. I willingly chose to do all these activities. One day....I was hit in the face with a metal sled going 30 miles per hour. I wound up getting about 6 stitches on that one. Did it ruin me? No. Did I continue to play the way I was accustomed. Yes I did.......

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Sun 11/20/11 10:54 AM
In short Canada is an example of PC gone out of control. Life unto itself presents hazards we can never control but this is the whole proactive "We must protect our children from everything bad in this world," mentality. These are people who get a paper cut and cry to the school nurse while a kid is sitting in the Nurse's office with a broken arm waiting to get it set with a few tears of pain because he fell off of the monkey bars trying to pull off a cherry bomb and he flubbed it. Who is kidding who? This goes on in America too and that usually meets hostile criticism from most parents. Removing balls from a play field means that any sports or games relating to that ball are now gone which in turn dumbs down Physical Education. Play is very important to a child's development. But over protection has dire consequences too. It makes people dependent on others to defend them. It in turn creates a mental dependance on others too! What a great way to pacify a population, aye?

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Sun 11/20/11 10:59 AM
Parents are the problem. Overprotecting their kids, which forces companies and schools to do it to avoid lawsuits. We'd be better off with kids dying because they couldn't make it, and have stronger generations, rather then pampering them, and wondering why they couldn't survive. I'm all for some safety things, but as a society we've gone way overboard.

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Sun 11/20/11 11:12 AM

Parents are the problem. Overprotecting their kids, which forces companies and schools to do it to avoid lawsuits. We'd be better off with kids dying because they couldn't make it, and have stronger generations, rather then pampering them, and wondering why they couldn't survive. I'm all for some safety things, but as a society we've gone way overboard.


I must concur with that. I have seen people turn into total shitte heads because they have kids and suddenly super protective and everything revolves around their child. Nothing and no one else matters. I have had past employers screw me pay wise because of their children's needs before their responsibilities towards where their income is being derived. You must make sure your employees are payed otherwise you should not have people working for you. Sorry but i have no sympathy for other people's children when it comes to me starving because of them.

Likewise I am sick of how law suit happy people really are. America's justice system is a JOKE! It is designed to bleed people dry!

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Sun 11/20/11 11:15 AM

Parents are the problem. Overprotecting their kids, which forces companies and schools to do it to avoid lawsuits. We'd be better off with kids dying because they couldn't make it, and have stronger generations, rather then pampering them, and wondering why they couldn't survive. I'm all for some safety things, but as a society we've gone way overboard.


I was just wondering how much is to protect kids or to avoid lawsuits from parents.
I remember playing volleyball in high school. The ball hit my glasses and there was bleeding where my frame cut my face. Did I go home and complain to my parents? No, we just did not do that back then. We just sucked it up and went on with the game.

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Sun 11/20/11 11:25 AM
When I rode my bie for miles to visit friends as a kid....there was no such thing as a bike helmet.

Skinned knees were common...with no band aids....cause we didnt need em and most band aids were too damned small.

Parents today (mainly the women) are just retarded over the fact that thier little hump trophy might get uncomfortable and cry they need to know that the world will change just for them. I look at my sister for this example...

She got a 4 year old who runs her house and my sister tries to negotiate and barter instead of giving that kid the @$$whippin that brat needs.

I put up with it and do my best to be a good uncle. I have told my sister..."You are only setting up her boyfriends to put up with a whining b!tch who is gonna demand that they jump through hoops for her every whim"

My sister said..."I know! But, I just can't tell her "NO"

I love my sister's ugly kid. But, she is gonna grow up to be a flat out b!tch.

What my sister doesn't understand is that SHE is the one who loves that kid....the rest of us just put up with her.


The same is true of every other squalling little hellion out there. If it is your kid...you love em. The rest of us gotta put up with those b@st@rds cause we gotta. Discipline your kids before someone who DOESNT love them beats them till they pee on themselves.

Just trying to help

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Sun 11/20/11 11:27 AM

When I rode my bie for miles to visit friends as a kid....there was no such thing as a bike helmet.

Skinned knees were common...with no band aids....cause we didnt need em and most band aids were too damned small.

Parents today (mainly the women) are just retarded over the fact that thier little hump trophy might get uncomfortable and cry they need to know that the world will change just for them. I look at my sister for this example...

She got a 4 year old who runs her house and my sister tries to negotiate and barter instead of giving that kid the @$$whippin that brat needs.

I put up with it and do my best to be a good uncle. I have told my sister..."You are only setting up her boyfriends to put up with a whining b!tch who is gonna demand that they jump through hoops for her every whim"

My sister said..."I know! But, I just can't tell her "NO"

I love my sister's ugly kid. But, she is gonna grow up to be a flat out b!tch.

What my sister doesn't understand is that SHE is the one who loves that kid....the rest of us just put up with her.


The same is true of every other squalling little hellion out there. If it is your kid...you love em. The rest of us gotta put up with those b@st@rds cause we gotta. Discipline your kids before someone who DOESNT love them beats them till they pee on themselves.

Just trying to help


drinker

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Sun 11/20/11 11:30 AM
Stop trying to pick a fight with me Equus...

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