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| Topic: Understanding the BIble, no small task | |
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I think of value when I hear 'respect' it has no connection to 'favoritism' for me as favoritism means placing someone ABOVE others I respect many people without placing them 'above' others I can respect what people do or what they accomplish and it translates to respecting the person on some level but I dont necessarily have FAVORITISM for a person because I am able to respect something about them there is a difference between respecting accomplishments or opinions and favoring the person who has achieved or expressed them its kind of like how I view not 'judging' we are to judge actions and words in order to gauge our own, but we are not to pass a judgment of the 'person' because we know no person completely enough to do so,, only God does I was about to respond to Miles but I see that the response was made above. I might just give an example, which also demonstrates what the link in the OP had to share. The word respect, as defined by Miles, has undergone changes. The example that comes to mind is the first ammendment of the Bill of rights: " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Using msharmony's explanation we can understand that in this case respect means to favor over other beleifs. This example also stands out in support of what the speaker from the OP link is trying to convey - that context is the most important aspect of language interpretation. Words can produce minor changes within context or they can produce major changes to the point of being opposite of what we might think. Not every change may effect one's overall belief but knowing that these varaiation exist and can be major, is an important reason to keep an open mind and for those who harbor religious beleifs, faith, without being fundamentally committed to language,is the most important factor in any belief system. When it comes to religious beliefs, faith should always be kept in 'context' with one's beliefs. I agree with that. The problem is most people do not understand what living the word is. to me its like your career. If you want to make the most of it then you are going to learn every thing you can about it. thats how I define " The Living Word" Yahshua our example to follow.. our mentor, our teacher..Blessings..Miles I may have said this to you before so forgive me if I repeat. There are many things about faith that you have in common with a rather well-known old-world philosopher: Sǿren Kierkegaard Kierkegaard was quite feisty when it came to opinions about religion. He wrote about (his philosophy) the offence that has been perpetrated, by many millions of people for millennia who “…under the guise of perfecting Christianity, sought little by little to cheat God out of Christianity, and have succeeded in making Christianity exactly the opposite of what it is in the New Testament.” (1944) He would not agree with any of the religious fundamentalist thought of today. He came to existentialism naturally through his own research and because he felt so strongly that faith was not personal but required the individual to set their values in accordance with their faith. Faith, for Kierkegaard, was an internalization of the external power of God; therefore, convention as well as the establishment of the church depersonalized that which can only be experienced between the individual and the absolute, God. While his personal strength of character is one to admire, his existentialist philosophy is somewhat short-sighted and underdeveloped. But there is no doubt that he lived through his faith and perhaps that was the greatest legacy he left in support of some of his philosophical insight. I also agreed with his quote that I included above. |
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Let's not mix up
RELIGIOUSITY and CHURCHIOLOGY with CHRISTIANITY. 
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Let's not mix up RELIGIOUSITY and CHURCHIOLOGY with CHRISTIANITY. Is not christianity a 'personal walk with god'? If it is so... Of a certianity then Christianity contains religiousity and churchology along with a cornuicopia of personal attainment of God in their personal walk. mankind is a few billion... Individual ways of looking at EVERYTHING. To each the measure of the cup is different. For each the drink of the spirit contains a different draught. |
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Understanding the Bible. Not all that hard either.
 
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the inquisitors sure thought they understood the bible.
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the inquisitors sure thought they understood the bible. |
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 10/21/11 03:24 PM
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Wow! De'ja' vue.
Didnt I already start this thread? 
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 10/21/11 03:23 PM
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Understanding the Bible. Not all that hard either.  But everyone isnt you. 
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the inquisitors sure thought they understood the bible. So do serial killers of prostitutes and abortion doctor killers and bombers. And lets not forget Westboro protestors at the soldiers funerals. The list goes on and on about those in history who "understood" this book of stories that were written forever ago and have altered to fit a certain agenda by King James and the Vatican. |
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This is an interesting article about some of the challenges of accurately interpreting the bible http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/five-ways-your-bible-tran_b_1007058.html Besides all of that. The bible is a book of stories that do not depict one thing or story line because they are written by many different authors at different times in history with different stories to tell. So the whole thing being one big book of stories it shouldn't be attempted to make it into sense. That is a waste of time and energy. It already makes sense... It's about oppression and how one should lift everyone else up instead of putting everyone down... Over-simplified? Yeah, but who cares what I think... Talk about interpretation  At what point did this get said? |
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Edited by
Peter_Pan69
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Sat 10/22/11 02:09 AM
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This is an interesting article about some of the challenges of accurately interpreting the bible http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/five-ways-your-bible-tran_b_1007058.html Besides all of that. The bible is a book of stories that do not depict one thing or story line because they are written by many different authors at different times in history with different stories to tell. So the whole thing being one big book of stories it shouldn't be attempted to make it into sense. That is a waste of time and energy. It already makes sense... It's about oppression and how one should lift everyone else up instead of putting everyone down... Over-simplified? Yeah, but who cares what I think... Talk about interpretation At what point did this get said? LOL! Talk about blindness... It's only been said about 110 times in the King James Version http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=oppress&version1=KJV&searchtype=all&limit=none&wholewordsonly=no and 125 times in the English Standard Version http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/? search=oppress&searchtype=all&version1=47&spanbegin=1&spanend=73 How many times have you read the Bible again? |
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The bible is not only King James version. It is also the new testament and the old. The Jewish and the Jesus testaments.
If you ask me, there is no connection between the messages of the two. Nominal, yes, virtual, little, essential, none. So... if it's not in one, it's in the other. I think Christianity should adopt a third testament, like the Quran or The Joy Of Sex or The Communist Manifesto. Of the three I read parts of the communist manifesto, none of the Quran and none of the Joy of The Sex -- I could have written the bloody book if I warn't only five years old when it was first out on the market. The Second testament is fascinating reading. Some parts of it, anyhow. It takes the reader with it -- you sort of get sweapt up in the suggestive power of it. Much like Mein Kampf. There is power, there is passionate, fierce striving for something in both books. |
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"""It already makes sense...
It's about oppression """" Is it FOR oppression or AGAINST? Becasue you can't lift people up unless they are down. So if you need to spend your entire life lifting people up, then there has got to be a lifetime supply of downed people for you, otherwise you can't fulfill your purpose in life as given by the bible. So without oppression, there can be no Christian life. Sad. |
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Wow! De'ja' vue. Didnt I already start this thread? I was thinking of you doll,,,lol
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Sun 10/23/11 04:50 AM
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Wow! De'ja' vue. Didnt I already start this thread? I was thinking of you doll,,,lol Thank you, but all these people do over here is argue about the bible, thats why I stay on my thread with safe people, who actually help me.
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Wow! De'ja' vue. Didnt I already start this thread? I was thinking of you doll,,,lol Thank you, but all these people do over here is argue about the bible, thats why I stay on my thread with safe people, who actually help me. lol very true and good idea. |
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Wow! De'ja' vue. Didnt I already start this thread? I was thinking of you doll,,,lol Thank you, but all these people do over here is argue about the bible, thats why I stay on my thread with safe people, who actually help me. lol very true and good idea.  (((((((((( COWBOY ))))))))))
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"""It already makes sense... It's about oppression """" Is it FOR oppression or AGAINST? Becasue you can't lift people up unless they are down. So if you need to spend your entire life lifting people up, then there has got to be a lifetime supply of downed people for you, otherwise you can't fulfill your purpose in life as given by the bible. So without oppression, there can be no Christian life. Sad. Like the topic title states.... If you have to ask, then you don't understand... |
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Aye but also.
If you have to understand. you missed the point. |
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And if you missed the point, try a little over to the left, and down a little. |
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