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the hate mail gigles

SACRIFICIAL, SELFLESS. "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it." This is the mystery of the gospel: The Son of God gave Himself to death, to bear the burden of the Church's punishment, so that she might live. Love is selfless. "Love seeketh not her own" (I Corinthians 13). This points out the difference between love and lust. This also points out the duty of husbands.

UNCONDITIONAL. Christ's love for the Church was not based on some foreseen goodness, nor does it depend on a loveliness that She can present to Him on Her own. Christ's love was and is unconditional (See Ezekial 16). (This is the Reformed faith!) This does not mean that a young man may marry a spiritually unlovely woman. Rather, it means that the husband, after marriage, may not say, "She is not lovely anymore; I will not love her."

TENDER. Ephesians 5:29 teaches the husband to "cherish" his wife. The love of Christ for the church is a tender, gentle, love. Sometimes husbands complain about "unfeminine" wives. Husbands must be asked, "Are you tender with your wife?"

CLOSE. An error the husband may fall into is to think that he loves his wife because he provides well for her, but that he is rarely home with her. Then friction results and the husband is surprised. He should have known: love comes close to and dwells with the wife. I Peter 3:7 calls husbands to dwell with their wives. Christ comes close to His Bride. He speaks to Her, often. He loves Her!

NURTURING. If there is true love in the husband's heart, he will also want his wife to be healthy. He will care for her physically; he will provide for her spiritually. He will have the greatest concern for her relationship to God! She is "his own flesh" and no man ever yet hated his own flesh, "but nourisheth it and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church" (Ephesians 5:29).

This points out that husbands who love their wives will have conscious goals in their marriage. The purpose of the love of Christ for the church is the church's perfection. He said, as it were, "I will perfect my church. I will give myself for Her so that She may be cleansed, separated from the world, consecrated to God." Christ did that by His death on the cross and now does it by "His Spirit and Word" (Ephesians 5:26). The husband's goal for his wife will be her holiness, her purity, a close relationship to her God!

I pray that every one looking finds a cristian family to grow and learn with.
Phill

Hey, I wrote my post with nothing but love in my heart...although like I said I'm a grammar Nazi. I'm sorry if you took offense to what I said, but I was trying to drive home the point of the credibility of a source.

As this is a forum, it is for the free expression of ideas and opinions and facts...I never told you not to post. I simply expressed my opinion based off the same source material you were using. I was pointing out that many of the quotes you are using are out of context, and more importantly were not necessarily the best foundation for your argument because of their context within the Bible.

As for the Dumb and Dumber content, lol...evidently you are confused by the word Agnostic. An agnostic is a person who believes in a deity, but is unsure as to the nature of that deity, or at the very least acknowledges the limitation of man's understanding. That means I neither support or refute the existence of the Trinity, I just accept the fact that I don't know. However, the Bible supports the theory of the Holy Trinity, and since you like to quote the Bible...

Jesus's divinity is expressed in a number of scriptures, but here's a fairly clear reference 1 John 5:20 (Whole Chapter)
We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. "

>> agnistic and believes in trinity? I saw that one I believe its called dum and dumber..

Heave forbid a person have the intelligence and flexibility of mind to discuss a matter from a point of view other than their own!

Is that allowed?

No! Go back to Russia

thanks tom for the diffention, sorrie the poor writing lol. put the bible aside lets look at polgamy with common since, how many of us were lucky enough to have a mother raise us and a father who was head of house and could support us. now days many arent as lucky, the days when kids looked after there parent when they got old are fading also, its sad. for people who have been raised in the homes were both parents worked a tv as a baby sitter or some kinda of day care, how different there lifes could of been. theres not a wonder in my mind why youth voilence, drugs, sex and suicide has riasen in this modern day.. its the pro femminst dike loving everbody is equal attiude of today, if people are agianst what i say fine go march in a parade. but dont write about anti polgamy this or that and wonder why society is missed up or what kinda of nursing home you will be in when your old cause your kids want to show you the care you gave them, ps i wont ever have to worry about that.

o ya the dum and dummer comment its just apart of my twisted since of humor. and russia is nice this time of year

Meh I wasn't worried about it, lol.

Hmmm, while I don't personally have anything against polygamy...I don't think that in general it is a workable situation (of course there are exceptions tot the rule).

Doing the numbers though, successful and long-term polyamorous relationships are far and few between. Compare the number of geriatrics who haver maintained those relationships to the total number that have been in one and you have a low percentage of success.

Not to mention, the jealousy factor. While those that defend their polygamous relationships make claims that they are not jealous of the other spouse, the reality is that these arguments are akin to that of folks making claims that their family "never argues". Sure, it is possible that you don't feel jealous in that situation, and it is even probable that jealous people do not engage in polygamous relationships, but the balancing act must be very awkward. People in relationships demand time and attention, there are may instances where husbands get jealous of the attention wives show their newborns, or when wives get jealous of the time a husband devotes to work. These are COMMON occurrences, imagine now that you add an extra spouse who would also demand equal time.

I wonder, when you say polygamous, what would you do if both of your wives wanted to add additional husbands?

hmm extra husbands the only argument I would have with that would be it wouldnt help a family grow any faster, have more kids umm I guess I wouldnt want to touch that one. but there are afircan tribes that practice what I consider reverse polgamy multi husbands and wifes? The jealousy factor the number one argument as for statics we can look and tradtional marriage in america which is decumented far better then hidden groups and see that aint working to good either. ok back to the number one problem the argument against that I understand lol.the jealousy factor and for men out there wanting polgamous marriage it runs both ways yess you can be jealous of the wifes spending to much time together depending on there level of friendship. as for attion I understand that one I lost my very first wife that way she left me after 6 years cause I travel with my work and wasnt home that much and the cable guy showed her more attion another storie lol..
In any relationship there must be a balance, jelousy is just such a bad trait it shows a lack of being secure, a lack of trust.
people can say well thats not why I get jelous well for what ever reason it pushes some people away. people all get jelous in one way or another atleast once in thier life I cant see how you couldnt.
If you want a happy relationship find someone you can trust and be a trusting person. its the easy answer sometimes harder to do then siad.
and for my number one tip of the day for people considering marriage and dont want divorce its very simple.. are you dedicated(badspelling probally) and is the other person. will you stick with that person no matter what, you fall in love out of love in love you hate the person one day. if you and your spouse are dedicated then you have the ability to have a lasting relationship, and if you dont have jealousy in your hearts you will have peace of mind and happiness.
These are two things that make polgamy work and modern marriage. without trust and dedication you become one of those statics. Good luck peoples and God bless your families.

my number one tip of the day is for people considering marriage and don't want divorce its very simple.. are you dedicated(badspelling probally) and is the other person. will you stick with that person no matter what, you fall in love out of love in love you hate the person one day. If you and your spouse are dedicated then you have the ability to have a lasting relationship, and if you dont have jealousy in your hearts you will have peace of mind and happiness.
phill

can you think of a pro and a con to modern day marriage? can you think of a pro and con to polgamy marriage?

Is it possible to actually be in love with the same person forever. I don't mean the love that you settle into after years of marriage, but that heart stopping love that you feel when you first meet him/her.

Why do so many marriages break up ?

Do the majority of women/men just get carried along with the whole idea of a marriage ceremony, rather than let the other person down ?

I would be interested in your views.

lol wow dude thats a lot of text i hope you're copy pasting that stuff from a website!

wow thats a lot of makeup... some from files on my computer some from sites.

And am a fast typer.(gigles ya right)

So are you interested in polgamy or just bored lol ?

my name is phill nice to meet you

Not exactly the best intro line!

@ Wench

I never siad i wasn't a asshole.. lol my twisted since of humor doesnt always make me the smoothiest man alive.. but I'm not fake, if someone is interested in different sites that I study on I would be happy to share that info. just email me plmckeachie@hotmail.com

anyone here any good jokes today? anything funny ?

Look here is a article a stole I wont show it all its way to foolish written by what a believe is a person who is a complete idiot with lack of knowledge or understanding of the topic.

Polygamy, Sex Ratios Prevent Democracy, Encourage Terrorism.
On average, he found that Muslim countries had sex ratios of 102 men for every 100 women, although it can go as high as 125 men for every 100 women in Saudi Arabia, for example.

"Historically, when large groups of men can't get married they hang out together and they become monks or marauding bands that rob, rape and pillage," Ms. McDermott said. "Where do you think terrorist groups come from?"

So what have we learned polgamy is the cause of terrorism. polgamy cause monk hood. I tell you thats the last thing I want in my town some shaven headed meditator.

In east and west africa there are successful men often take more than a hundred wives and almost 30 percent of all marriages are polygamous were islamic polgamy can only accounts for less then 12 percent in islamic countries.. Is there a connection to terrorism and polgamy well maybe if you have a creative mind and sniff glue and to much time on your hands the sad thing was this stuff came out of something claiming to be a newspaper back in 2004 (right wing extremist propganda)