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WHO IS LUCIFER:HE was a unique angel made by God out of fire,the sons of the morning,he was made in the class of cherubims,gifted in singing,beauty wisdom,power.his heart was lifted high(proud),he said in his heart"i will be like the most high God"angels will worship me,authorities and power will be under me.then God told him thou art a man and not God,then he was cast out of heaven,he and two thirds of other heavenly angel who also were deceive by him,they were all cast down to hell,after lucifer was cast out of heaven his name was turn to "satan the devil". God made man to fill there space but satan who was once an archangel of God became the arch enemy of God and man,who made man to disobey God again so that man will be part of punishment an destruction.ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE.
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Of the two books, I like the Urantia book better. It goes into more detail and it makes more logical sense. I think it would make a great television series. Check out a book called "Samael's Fall" by Marion Webb-De-Sisto. It is also channeled info. About the fall of the first Archangel. How, Why, What happened, etc... it goes into great detail, and is the closest i have found so far to the real truth of the matter. |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification
of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 11/06/11 11:17 PM
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That's all there is to it.
or it could be those draconian aliens with wings, tails and horns that are being mistaken for the devil. 
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Sun 11/06/11 11:37 PM
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification
of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. or it could be those draconian aliens with wings, tails and horns that are being mistaken for the devil.
or using that logic it could be the toof fairy.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 11/07/11 02:55 AM
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Instead of my posting what the bible says on
this subject here, I'll just leave it up to you to Open the bible and find out for yourself....if you are really wanting to know the real truth ,that is..... 
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Instead of my posting what the bible says on this subject here, I'll just leave it up to you to Open the bible and find out for yourself....if you are really wanting to know the real truth ,that is.....
The people who lived 2000 years ago would fall to their knees and worship a common magician of today as a God if he could go back in time. A draconian alien from Orion is described as a reptile type being with horns, a tail and some even have wings. They look just like the modern picture some people have of a devil. If a draconian alien visited the people who lived 2000 years ago, I'm sure he would be thought of as the devil. Probably even today, if a person saw one of these creatures they would be certain they were seeing the devil. The Urantia scripture says that Satan has been locked up and has been for a long time so all the stories of the devil tempting people can't be true. Satan and Lucifer are not the same entity according to the Urantia book. I'm not saying that these creatures don't exist, they might. But my question is about who and where are they if they are real entities? They certainly are not human, so I call them aliens. Angels of "the Lord" are also not human, so I call them aliens too. Gods are not humans so I call them aliens too. If you really want me to accept these beings as real, then I will consider them to be aliens from another world. I don't trust aliens either. |
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Interesting identification of the of all these evil personages represented by "the dragon." 53:1.1 Lucifer was not an ascendant being; he was a created Son of the local universe, and of him it was said: " You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you. " Many times had he been in counsel with the Most Highs of Edentia. And Lucifer reigned " upon the holy mountain of God, " the administrative mount of Jerusem, for he was the chief executive of a great system of 607 inhabited worlds. 53:1.2 Lucifer was a magnificent being, a brilliant personality; he stood next to the Most High Fathers of the constellations in the direct line of universe authority. Notwithstanding Lucifer's transgression, subordinate intelligences refrained from showing him disrespect and disdain prior to Michael's bestowal on Urantia. Even the archangel of Michael, at the time of Moses' resurrection, " did not bring against him an accusing judgment but simply said, `the Judge rebuke you.' " Judgment in such matters belongs to the Ancients of Days, the rulers of the superuniverse. 53:1.3 Lucifer is now the fallen and deposed Sovereign of Satania. Self-contemplation is most disastrous, even to the exalted personalities of the celestial world. Of Lucifer it was said: " Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness. " Your olden prophet saw his sad estate when he wrote: " How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds! " 53:1.4 Very little was heard of Lucifer on Urantia owing to the fact that he assigned his first lieutenant, Satan, to advocate his cause on your planet. Satan was a member of the same primary group of Lanonandeks but had never functioned as a System Sovereign; he entered fully into the Lucifer insurrection. The " devil " is none other than Caligastia, the deposed Planetary Prince of Urantia and a Son of the secondary order of Lanonandeks. At the time Michael was on Urantia in the flesh, Lucifer, Satan, and Caligastia were leagued together to effect the miscarriage of his bestowal mission. But they signally failed. 53:1.5 Abaddon was the chief of the staff of Caligastia. He followed his master into rebellion and has ever since acted as chief executive of the Urantia rebels. Beelzebub was the leader of the disloyal midway creatures who allied themselves with the forces of the traitorous Caligastia. 53:1.6 The dragon eventually became the symbolic representation of all these evil personages. Upon the triumph of Michael, " Gabriel came down from Salvington and bound the dragon (all the rebel leaders) for an age. " Of the Jerusem seraphic rebels it is written: " And the angels who kept not their first estate but left their own habitation, he has reserved in sure chains of darkness to the judgment of the great day. " http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p053.htm Well, it is the false fearful being to inspire fear in the less enlightened to make them turn to the other false god of Christianity. Now speaking not from the Christian version, he was a god in some pagan beliefs, not evil though. Also I have heard that in trying to turn people from the religions before Christianity, the founders of Christianity wanted to make their "evil" represent/similar to one of the gods of those religions so that people who learned of this new Christianity would then start to fear one of their own gods. |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. Speak for yourself about "misguided inclinations". There is no such thing. Humanity is not evil by nature as some religions would have them believe. |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. Speak for yourself about "misguided inclinations". There is no such thing. Humanity is not evil by nature as some religions would have them believe. Sure they are. We just brush it off with "It's just a child, they don't know better". Little kids steal without thinking twice about it. As they grow up, they begin to lie. And the lying isn't from influence of the people around them, even people that are raised in very secluded lifestyles tend to end up lying. Also little kids are destructive, they fight, and so on and so on. |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. Speak for yourself about "misguided inclinations". There is no such thing. Humanity is not evil by nature as some religions would have them believe. Sure they are. We just brush it off with "It's just a child, they don't know better". Little kids steal without thinking twice about it. As they grow up, they begin to lie. And the lying isn't from influence of the people around them, even people that are raised in very secluded lifestyles tend to end up lying. Also little kids are destructive, they fight, and so on and so on. So now children are evil? 
You need to really check yourself. Human evility is a teaching of religions that want people to feel guilty all the time for what they are naturally so they will then be more easily controlled. I see it works for some.
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. Speak for yourself about "misguided inclinations". There is no such thing. Humanity is not evil by nature as some religions would have them believe. Sure they are. We just brush it off with "It's just a child, they don't know better". Little kids steal without thinking twice about it. As they grow up, they begin to lie. And the lying isn't from influence of the people around them, even people that are raised in very secluded lifestyles tend to end up lying. Also little kids are destructive, they fight, and so on and so on. So now children are evil?
You need to really check yourself. Human evility is a teaching of religions that want people to feel guilty all the time for what they are naturally so they will then be more easily controlled. I see it works for some.
You're gonna disagree with the fact as a child is playing with their action figures, they generally imagine war type scenarios? A little child walking up to a pyramid of block, will they not at times knock the pyramid down for kicks? Do children not cut the heads off of their stuffed animals? These examples don't apply to all toddlers, they are just a "general" action(s) done by children. The occasions differ from child to child, but are similar. |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. This is closest to what I believe....although I'm not so sure there are no evil beings. I'm just not sure what they are. It's possible they are created from our own thoughts and negative energy like when people see ghosts where there was a violent murder committed. |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. Speak for yourself about "misguided inclinations". There is no such thing. Humanity is not evil by nature as some religions would have them believe. Sure they are. We just brush it off with "It's just a child, they don't know better". How can a child be evil for something it never even did? How can it be responsible for things that occur before it's born? It's absurd! |
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Lucifer, Satan, Angel of Darkness etc. is just a personification of human inclinations toward doing wrong, bad or evil things. It is an anthropomorphic representation of evil for the sake of the narrative. Such a thing exists because we know that we all do have a misguided inclination to do counterproductive things at times.... That's all there is to it. Speak for yourself about "misguided inclinations". There is no such thing. Humanity is not evil by nature as some religions would have them believe.
I don't believe that humanity is evil by nature. But everyone is at one time or another tempted to do something which they know they shouldn't. This is what I meant by misguided inclinations. Humanity is not evil by nature. But sometimes, once in a while, we are tempted to do the wrong thing and sometimes we slip up and make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes.
I stand by my original statement. |
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Lucifer is a Greek latin hybrid name. it is not in the Hebrew scriptures. It was added many millinium later.
this being fact then maybe if thier is a draconian mythology then maybe this is how his name was concealed and replaced with lucifer. Have you ever watched smallville or superman? these were created by Jews. they mention the House of EL. The house of El is a metefor from the scriptures of life where we get Angel from/messenger. The House of El is vey real. a dominion that few ever here of yet they watch the magicians of our age put it in our minds and sew a seed that they do not have no idea what seed has been implanted in them. like raping a disabled person and them not understanding what or why they are pregnant yet all they understand is they are changing. they bring life to the unknown. |
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