Topic: Who is Lucifer, Satan, the devil, and Caligastia | |
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Jeanniebean
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Interesting identification of the of all these evil personages represented by "the dragon."
53:1.1 Lucifer was not an ascendant being; he was a created Son of the local universe, and of him it was said: " You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you. " Many times had he been in counsel with the Most Highs of Edentia. And Lucifer reigned " upon the holy mountain of God, " the administrative mount of Jerusem, for he was the chief executive of a great system of 607 inhabited worlds. 53:1.2 Lucifer was a magnificent being, a brilliant personality; he stood next to the Most High Fathers of the constellations in the direct line of universe authority. Notwithstanding Lucifer's transgression, subordinate intelligences refrained from showing him disrespect and disdain prior to Michael's bestowal on Urantia. Even the archangel of Michael, at the time of Moses' resurrection, " did not bring against him an accusing judgment but simply said, `the Judge rebuke you.' " Judgment in such matters belongs to the Ancients of Days, the rulers of the superuniverse. 53:1.3 Lucifer is now the fallen and deposed Sovereign of Satania. Self-contemplation is most disastrous, even to the exalted personalities of the celestial world. Of Lucifer it was said: " Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness. " Your olden prophet saw his sad estate when he wrote: " How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds! " 53:1.4 Very little was heard of Lucifer on Urantia owing to the fact that he assigned his first lieutenant, Satan, to advocate his cause on your planet. Satan was a member of the same primary group of Lanonandeks but had never functioned as a System Sovereign; he entered fully into the Lucifer insurrection. The " devil " is none other than Caligastia, the deposed Planetary Prince of Urantia and a Son of the secondary order of Lanonandeks. At the time Michael was on Urantia in the flesh, Lucifer, Satan, and Caligastia were leagued together to effect the miscarriage of his bestowal mission. But they signally failed. 53:1.5 Abaddon was the chief of the staff of Caligastia. He followed his master into rebellion and has ever since acted as chief executive of the Urantia rebels. Beelzebub was the leader of the disloyal midway creatures who allied themselves with the forces of the traitorous Caligastia. 53:1.6 The dragon eventually became the symbolic representation of all these evil personages. Upon the triumph of Michael, " Gabriel came down from Salvington and bound the dragon (all the rebel leaders) for an age. " Of the Jerusem seraphic rebels it is written: " And the angels who kept not their first estate but left their own habitation, he has reserved in sure chains of darkness to the judgment of the great day. " http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p053.htm |
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Interesting identification of the of all these evil personages represented by "the dragon." 53:1.1 Lucifer was not an ascendant being; he was a created Son of the local universe, and of him it was said: " You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you. " Many times had he been in counsel with the Most Highs of Edentia. And Lucifer reigned " upon the holy mountain of God, " the administrative mount of Jerusem, for he was the chief executive of a great system of 607 inhabited worlds. 53:1.2 Lucifer was a magnificent being, a brilliant personality; he stood next to the Most High Fathers of the constellations in the direct line of universe authority. Notwithstanding Lucifer's transgression, subordinate intelligences refrained from showing him disrespect and disdain prior to Michael's bestowal on Urantia. Even the archangel of Michael, at the time of Moses' resurrection, " did not bring against him an accusing judgment but simply said, `the Judge rebuke you.' " Judgment in such matters belongs to the Ancients of Days, the rulers of the superuniverse. 53:1.3 Lucifer is now the fallen and deposed Sovereign of Satania. Self-contemplation is most disastrous, even to the exalted personalities of the celestial world. Of Lucifer it was said: " Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness. " Your olden prophet saw his sad estate when he wrote: " How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds! " 53:1.4 Very little was heard of Lucifer on Urantia owing to the fact that he assigned his first lieutenant, Satan, to advocate his cause on your planet. Satan was a member of the same primary group of Lanonandeks but had never functioned as a System Sovereign; he entered fully into the Lucifer insurrection. The " devil " is none other than Caligastia, the deposed Planetary Prince of Urantia and a Son of the secondary order of Lanonandeks. At the time Michael was on Urantia in the flesh, Lucifer, Satan, and Caligastia were leagued together to effect the miscarriage of his bestowal mission. But they signally failed. 53:1.5 Abaddon was the chief of the staff of Caligastia. He followed his master into rebellion and has ever since acted as chief executive of the Urantia rebels. Beelzebub was the leader of the disloyal midway creatures who allied themselves with the forces of the traitorous Caligastia. 53:1.6 The dragon eventually became the symbolic representation of all these evil personages. Upon the triumph of Michael, " Gabriel came down from Salvington and bound the dragon (all the rebel leaders) for an age. " Of the Jerusem seraphic rebels it is written: " And the angels who kept not their first estate but left their own habitation, he has reserved in sure chains of darkness to the judgment of the great day. " http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p053.htm Yes, Lucifer was God's greatest angel. He grew an ego and thought himself greater then God. That is what got Satan kicked out of Heaven. |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being.
Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being. Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. Lucifer was his name while he was an Angel. When he was kicked out of Heaven and chained in Hell, his name changed to Satan. "Devil" in itself is not a name, it is a title, a being. Just as "Angel" isn't a name, it's a title, a being. |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being. Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. Lucifer was his name while he was an Angel. When he was kicked out of Heaven and chained in Hell, his name changed to Satan. "Devil" in itself is not a name, it is a title, a being. Just as "Angel" isn't a name, it's a title, a being. That's what you have been told. This thread is about the channeled book Urantia and what it says. |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being. Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. Lucifer was his name while he was an Angel. When he was kicked out of Heaven and chained in Hell, his name changed to Satan. "Devil" in itself is not a name, it is a title, a being. Just as "Angel" isn't a name, it's a title, a being. In many cultures, including ancient Middle Eastern cultures, people were not given names such as "Bob" or "Harry", they were given names that had a meaning. For instance, Abraham means "father of a multitude"; Isaac means "He laughed"; Sarah means "Princess." It was common to change a person's "descriptive" name at various times in his life. For instance, Sarah's earlier name was Sarai, which means "mockery"—because it was considered extremely embarrassing for a woman to be barren. "Lucifer" comes from the Latin word luciferos, which means "light bearer", i.e., someone who carries a light. "Satan" means "the Accuser." These and Beelzebub are some of the names for the Devil. |
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Yes "the Devil" has a name. It is Caligastia.
(Don't conjure him, he may come.) |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being. Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. Lucifer was his name while he was an Angel. When he was kicked out of Heaven and chained in Hell, his name changed to Satan. "Devil" in itself is not a name, it is a title, a being. Just as "Angel" isn't a name, it's a title, a being. That's what you have been told. This thread is about the channeled book Urantia and what it says. You presented what you have been told, and this being a "discussion" forum. I'm discussing by presenting what I've been told. |
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"Lucifer, Satan, and Caligastia were leagued together to effect the miscarriage of his bestowal mission. But they signally failed. "
There job was to stop the planetary prince (Jesus) from his mission. |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being. Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. Lucifer was his name while he was an Angel. When he was kicked out of Heaven and chained in Hell, his name changed to Satan. "Devil" in itself is not a name, it is a title, a being. Just as "Angel" isn't a name, it's a title, a being. That's what you have been told. This thread is about the channeled book Urantia and what it says. You presented what you have been told, and this being a "discussion" forum. I'm discussing by presenting what I've been told. No, I'm presenting the informatin in the Urantia book. Nobody "told" me anything. |
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Satan/Lucifer is a figment of a suckas imagination.
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Satan/Lucifer is a figment of a suckas imagination. How do you know that they aren't beings from another dimension? |
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News flash, the above says that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being. Satan is Lucifer's first lieutenant according to the channeled Urantia book. Lucifer was his name while he was an Angel. When he was kicked out of Heaven and chained in Hell, his name changed to Satan. "Devil" in itself is not a name, it is a title, a being. Just as "Angel" isn't a name, it's a title, a being. That's what you have been told. This thread is about the channeled book Urantia and what it says. You presented what you have been told, and this being a "discussion" forum. I'm discussing by presenting what I've been told. No, I'm presenting the informatin in the Urantia book. Nobody "told" me anything. Ok, get all technical lol. Then in that case no one "told" me either. I'm presenting the information in the Holy Bible. |
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I doubt that seriously.
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Of the two books, I like the Urantia book better. It goes into more detail and it makes more logical sense.
I think it would make a great television series. |
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THE LUCIFER REBELLION, WHY LUCIFER REBELLED...
53:3 THE LUCIFER MANIFESTO 53:3.1 Whatever the early origins of trouble in the hearts of Lucifer and Satan, the final outbreak took form as the Lucifer Declaration of Liberty. The cause of the rebels was stated under three heads: 53:3.2 1. The reality of the Universal Father. Lucifer charged that the Universal Father did not really exist, that physical gravity and space-energy were inherent in the universe, and that the Father was a myth invented by the Paradise Sons to enable them to maintain the rule of the universes in the Father's name. He denied that personality was a gift of the Universal Father. He even intimated that the finaliters were in collusion with the Paradise Sons to foist fraud upon all creation since they never brought back a very clear-cut idea of the Father's actual personality as it is discernible on Paradise. He traded on reverence as ignorance. The charge was sweeping, terrible, and blasphemous. It was this veiled attack upon the finaliters that no doubt influenced the ascendant citizens then on Jerusem to stand firm and remain steadfast in resistance to all the rebel's proposals. 53:3.3 2. The universe government of the Creator Son—Michael. Lucifer contended that the local systems should be autonomous. He protested against the right of Michael, the Creator Son, to assume sovereignty of Nebadon in the name of a hypothetical Paradise Father and require all personalities to acknowledge allegiance to this unseen Father. He asserted that the whole plan of worship was a clever scheme to aggrandize the Paradise Sons. He was willing to acknowledge Michael as his Creator-father but not as his God and rightful ruler. http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p053.htm |
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I doubt that seriously. lol you obviously know nothing about me and or who I am. I wasn't raised in a strict Christian family, bible study on Sundays, ect ect. lol. I'm not some church boy. |
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53:3.5 He contended that the executioners of the Ancients of Days could be debarred from functioning in the local systems if the native beings would only assert their independence. He maintained that immortality was inherent in the system personalities, that resurrection was natural and automatic, and that all beings would live eternally except for the arbitrary and unjust acts of the executioners of the Ancients of Days.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 10/02/11 03:08 PM
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THE WAR IN HEAVEN:
53:5.6 " There was war in heaven; Michael's commander and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer, Satan, and the apostate princes); and the dragon and his rebellious angels fought but prevailed not. " This " war in heaven " was not a physical battle as such a conflict might be conceived on Urantia. In the early days of the struggle Lucifer held forth continuously in the planetary amphitheater. Gabriel conducted an unceasing exposure of the rebel sophistries from his headquarters taken up near at hand. The various personalities present on the sphere who were in doubt as to their attitude would journey back and forth between these discussions until they arrived at a final decision. 53:5.7 But this war in heaven was very terrible and very real. While displaying none of the barbarities so characteristic of physical warfare on the immature worlds, this conflict was far more deadly; material life is in jeopardy in material combat, but the war in heaven was fought in terms of life eternal. Biblical references: Revelation 12:7-8 (reference) "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven." Matthew 28:18 (same) "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." |
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Biblical References to the Lucifer Manifesto.
Lucifer Manifesto Isaiah 14:12-14 (compare) "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Jude 1:4 (compare) "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." |
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