Topic: enlighten me.
newarkjw's photo
Tue 09/27/11 11:44 PM
You are awfully young to be so burdened. Perhaps you are worrying about the wrong things. Perhaps your not. Things never get easier. They just get different. You learn to adjust or you don't. Either way.....smokin

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Tue 09/27/11 11:50 PM
Edited by bhernandez on Tue 09/27/11 11:51 PM
either way smoke?
haha.
no thanks.
what are the right things to worry about?
so i either have to get used to it
or not get used to it and let it result in a miserable life?
i'm not liking my options.

newarkjw's photo
Tue 09/27/11 11:58 PM
You don't have to know what you worry about. You just do. Everybody is different. At least you have options. Lifes a b!tch....smokin

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Wed 09/28/11 12:02 AM
haha.
i really like how everyone keeps telling me that life blows.
why are you alive then?

newarkjw's photo
Wed 09/28/11 12:17 AM
I never said life blows. It just ain't always easy. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and you can always just buy a bottle of tequila.....drinker

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Wed 09/28/11 01:06 AM

Place trust in yourself! (to handle whatever happens)


Yes!

B, I think it does get easier.

i don't think i want to get used to it.
getting used to it seems a little sad.


Okay, so don't... I think you are saying that you would like to continue to have high ideals? That can be good. So don't settle for repetition of the kinds of experiences you've been having, shoot for something higher - but maybe you just need patience, as you continue to work towards finding the people you would want to really be friends with?


simple trust.
plain, 100% trust.
i think i'd trust a good human.
good humans won't **** you over.
they won't steal from you.
they won't lie to you.
[well they won't tell lies that will hurt you.]
they won't ignore you.
bla.
bla.
bla.
that's the best i can do at explaining it.


Well you can totally find people that won't deliberately lie to you, or steal from you, and who won't screw you over. But you might have to get better at finding, picking, and maybe nurturing those relationships. As far as people not ignoring you...I'm not sure if you are talking about someone who was malicious, or just careless, or just not available when you needed them...you know, sometimes we have different needs, and we can't *always* be the best friend to our friends at the time that they need us - we also need to take care of ourselves.

You are awfully young to be so burdened.


I agree with that, and yet it makes sense to me. Because she is young, she has higher ideals...and with her higher ideals comes a deeper sense of disappointment.

People are people. As you learn more and more about the ways that people suck, you can also learn greater appreciation for the ways that people rock.



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Wed 09/28/11 01:07 AM

haha.
i really like how everyone keeps telling me that life blows.


I don't think that life blows!

And yet, if I did...



why are you alive then?


...that would be because I like the alternative even less.

Simonedemidova's photo
Wed 09/28/11 06:52 AM
Edited by Simonedemidova on Wed 09/28/11 06:53 AM

haha.
i really like how everyone keeps telling me that life blows.
why are you alive then?


Because the joys in life outweigh the downfalls. I know you must have dreams in life. Things you have dream of doing. It maybe travelling to somewhere special. Perhaps working in a certain field for a certain company. Writing a Script! :wink:

If you focus on your personal goals in life and work towards them, you will find the other stuff really isn't that important. Here is something enlightening for you----YOU are in CONTROL of your OWN life. NO-one can take that away from you. If you want to date chix, so be it. You want a sugar daddy-so be it. You want to get up and move to SPAIN-so be it. These other people the untrustworthies--THEY DO NOT control you. Sure they may be lousy friends/family, but they dont control your destiny. You DO!

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Wed 09/28/11 06:54 AM

well what i don't get is how people always tell me that silence kills.
i'm not suppose to keep everything all bottled up or whatnot.
who do i tell though?
the people who tell me to talk are the same ones who don't want to listen.
i guess i'll keep talking to the people in my head.
we can not talk to each other :wink:

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Wed 09/28/11 06:55 AM

its not safe to trust anyone, to be honest with you....


I can agree with that to some extent

but I think for Bhernandez, I'd say we can't teach you that. All u can do (and I am sure you already know this) is to be a trust worthy person yourself, and when you find another trustworthy person, hold onto that relationship, if u can.

there aren't many out there IME

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Wed 09/28/11 06:56 AM

You don't have to know what you worry about. You just do. Everybody is different. At least you have options. Lifes a b!tch....smokin
that's because you live in Ky...smokin

Simonedemidova's photo
Wed 09/28/11 07:20 AM


well what i don't get is how people always tell me that silence kills.
i'm not suppose to keep everything all bottled up or whatnot.
who do i tell though?
the people who tell me to talk are the same ones who don't want to listen.
i guess i'll keep talking to the people in my head.
we can not talk to each other :wink:


What, I talk to my head peeps ALL the TIME....laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 09/28/11 10:25 AM
hm.
so far i've gotten that life and people basically suck.
as i get older i'll just get more and more used to it.
eventually becoming numb to all that sucks.
and the reason people are alive is because death is worse.
but while i'm alive i should only trust and work at what i want by myself.
oh misanthropy.
haha.

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Wed 09/28/11 10:38 AM

as i get older i'll just get more and more used to it.
eventually becoming numb to all that sucks.


I don't think I've become numb at all - I think I've become better at understanding where people are coming from, more patient and forgiving - realizing that they are struggling with their own issues, that they often have good intentions. Also, that I've learned better how to find good people, and how to side step people who have issues that would bring unhappiness to my life.


and the reason people are alive is because death is worse.


Oh, I was totally kidding! I was teasing about the question itself.... but life is awesome!


but while i'm alive i should only trust and work at what i want by myself.


Um, well I do sorta think you can only completely trust yourself...but you can still find people to trust well enough to have good friendships with them.


Kiwiji's photo
Wed 09/28/11 10:39 AM

hm.
so far i've gotten that life and people basically suck.
as i get older i'll just get more and more used to it.
eventually becoming numb to all that sucks.
and the reason people are alive is because death is worse.
but while i'm alive i should only trust and work at what i want by myself.
oh misanthropy.
haha.


nope I still am not used to how much people suck and do not think I ever will and still do not trust most people. Been dumped on too many times.

Ash36's photo
Wed 09/28/11 10:42 AM

i don't know how or who to trust.
teach me how to do it.
thanks.
(:
to be honest, dont trust anyone. But its really hard cuz we are humans n we have a heart

s1owhand's photo
Wed 09/28/11 10:42 AM
Trust everybody, but cut the cards. -Peter Dunne

I am not saying this to be flippant. I believe it
is really truly excellent advice. Long term trust
is of course earned. However, I believe - as the
quote suggests - that it is the best policy to
extend a certain amount of initial trust to everyone
you wind up interacting with so there is a basis
of mutual trust initially.

In any new interaction of course one must proceed
with caution - in other words, cut the cards. Trust
should not extend in a new relationship to handing
over the car keys or bank account or blind trust
which will put you at some very vulnerable situation.
On the other hand there is no reason to distrust
that some new person will not be honest and upfront
and true to their word about normal commitments
until or unless they break their word.

Life is too short to go around in paranoia. On the
other hand, if someone is really out to get you,
and it does happen, then it is no longer paranoia
but by then you will know each other better.

drinker




mightymoe's photo
Wed 09/28/11 10:43 AM

hm.
so far i've gotten that life and people basically suck.
as i get older i'll just get more and more used to it.
eventually becoming numb to all that sucks.
and the reason people are alive is because death is worse.
but while i'm alive i should only trust and work at what i want by myself.
oh misanthropy.
haha.

life is a learning process, if your not learning, then people will get that attitude you have. if your worried about people stealing from you, then put the things you don't want stolen away... if you don't wanna be lied to, then weed out the people that do lie. the world is not perfect, no matter how much you want it to be, and neither are people. so, get over it and get on with your life, and quit worrying about others, and do what makes you happy.

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Wed 09/28/11 10:50 AM
to the op

play the life game without fear

misswright's photo
Wed 09/28/11 11:01 AM
To learn to trust you must first believe in yourself. Know that no matter what is thrown at you, you can handle it and stay true to your path. If you follow your heart and use your brain it's not difficult to learn how to trust. If you get burned, chalk it up to lesson learned and put it in the library for future reference.

I used to have serious trust issues...now I trust everyone because I know that I'm strong, I'm a survivor and I will not let anyone or anything deter me from my path in life. I choose to follow it and if you're cool with me, you can come along for the ride. If not, well **** off, I'll be just fine on my own thank you very much.

I know, easier said than done...just my take on it.