Topic: Trust your government, they will protect you.
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Sun 09/25/11 02:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 09/25/11 02:16 PM
Trust your government says Nancy Snyderman.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZNtMZI0jqE


J. Speer-Williams on Rense.com says:

If You Want To Lose Your Soul
Blindly Support Your Government
- Right Or Wrong

http://www.rense.com/general90/soul.htm

Don't trust your government writes Andrew Fitzgerald:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/52150.html

....Matt Lauer was interviewing Harry Markopolos who I had seen interviewed before on Frontline. Markopolos was a competing trader tasked with figuring out Madoff's secret to such great returns. He said that he conclusively determined his operation to be a fraud in 30 minutes and over the next several years informed the SEC four separate times. He said that the big problem with the SEC was that they're staffed with lawyers who don't know anything about money and investigating. I remember in the Frontline piece he said that it would have been easy enough for the SEC to contact every broker on the NYSE and find that none had ever placed a trade for Madoff.

The great parts of his interview this morning were when Lauer questioned him about his fears of being threatened by Madoff. Markopolos said that he bought a gun and if he were personally threatened by Madoff he planned to kill him since, "it was either him or me." Lauer looks at him quizzically asking how he would explain that to law enforcement. Markopolos, who doesn't exactly look like a Charles Bronson vigilante, said "well I'd hope not to get caught. I certainly had some good Army training, and it was really him or me. I had a family to protect. The government wasn't protecting me; they were not doing their jobs, and I felt forced into a rather difficult moral dilemma." Lauer ends the interview by asking him what lessons should investors learn from this mess. He answers, "don't trust your government."

I felt the whole interview had a great libertarian ring to it, with our government budget going to no good purpose except possibly training a would-be vigilante and the regulatory agency being warned repeatedly about the greatest private fraud in American history to no effect.




Do you or can you trust your government? What are your thoughts?






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Sun 09/25/11 02:21 PM
trust as in how? they have been doing a good job up till 2009, then the trust levels went way down...i mean, never any wars over here, the strongest nation in the world, one of the most free, one of the richest, and the most sought-after relocation nations in the world...

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Sun 09/25/11 02:26 PM

trust as in how? they have been doing a good job up till 2009, then the trust levels went way down...i mean, never any wars over here, the strongest nation in the world, one of the most free, one of the richest, and the most sought-after relocation nations in the world...



Yep for sure there are pros and cons. In a lot of areas I trust our local state government(s).

I can't say the same about the federal government though. I don't trust them to tell the truth anyway. They probably don't think we can handle it, or that it would not be beneficial to them if people knew exactly what they were doing.


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Sun 09/25/11 02:28 PM

Trust your government says Nancy Snyderman.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZNtMZI0jqE


J. Speer-Williams on Rense.com says:

If You Want To Lose Your Soul
Blindly Support Your Government
- Right Or Wrong

http://www.rense.com/general90/soul.htm

Don't trust your government writes Andrew Fitzgerald:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/52150.html

....Matt Lauer was interviewing Harry Markopolos who I had seen interviewed before on Frontline. Markopolos was a competing trader tasked with figuring out Madoff's secret to such great returns. He said that he conclusively determined his operation to be a fraud in 30 minutes and over the next several years informed the SEC four separate times. He said that the big problem with the SEC was that they're staffed with lawyers who don't know anything about money and investigating. I remember in the Frontline piece he said that it would have been easy enough for the SEC to contact every broker on the NYSE and find that none had ever placed a trade for Madoff.

The great parts of his interview this morning were when Lauer questioned him about his fears of being threatened by Madoff. Markopolos said that he bought a gun and if he were personally threatened by Madoff he planned to kill him since, "it was either him or me." Lauer looks at him quizzically asking how he would explain that to law enforcement. Markopolos, who doesn't exactly look like a Charles Bronson vigilante, said "well I'd hope not to get caught. I certainly had some good Army training, and it was really him or me. I had a family to protect. The government wasn't protecting me; they were not doing their jobs, and I felt forced into a rather difficult moral dilemma." Lauer ends the interview by asking him what lessons should investors learn from this mess. He answers, "don't trust your government."

I felt the whole interview had a great libertarian ring to it, with our government budget going to no good purpose except possibly training a would-be vigilante and the regulatory agency being warned repeatedly about the greatest private fraud in American history to no effect.




Do you or can you trust your government? What are your thoughts?









I trust them to be human. To make mistakes, to make progress, to have setbacks, To have some who are greedy, to have some who want to help,,,,

they are just human, the only one I trust completely is God and I trust my family to have my best interest at heart although not to always make the best choices or never make mistakes.

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Sun 09/25/11 02:29 PM
That all of them are "just humans" is debatable.

laugh laugh tongue2

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Sun 09/25/11 02:32 PM
Let me put it this way....


If there was a "natural disaster" and the government sent out some black vans or helicopters to "relocate" the population I think I would pack up and run the other way. tongue2 scared

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Sun 09/25/11 02:36 PM
No I do not trust the government, but if they had water......I might drink I am not sure havent been in the situation........but i would probably have enough water stacked to make it someplace else

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Sun 09/25/11 09:14 PM
I do not blindly trust the govt. But I do not blindly distrust them
either.

I watch their actions and listen to their proposals on policy.