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Ok but the fact is, God STILL wiped out an entire populace, and you can not tell me mass murder basically such as that is love, because it's flat not. Some acts simply cannot be justified I don't give a damn how many times you try. so thats ur answer its different than mine |
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Yes I see that quite clearly. I'm surprised, but then not really.
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 This recent part of the thread has not been divinely inspired! |
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This recent part of the thread has not been divinely inspired!
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we don't all have a better understanding of god. some of us still see no reason to think god or devine inspiration even exist much less understand it. you folks are doing a fine job of convincing yourselves though. If love exists, then God exists because God IS love. Can you see love or touch it? Does love exist? I know God exists because I exist. I am that. I am that I am. love is an emotion that may or may not exist in any given individual's mind. in that regard i'll agree that god exists only in a given individual's mind. you'll have to explain to me how you come to the conclusion that because you exist god also must exist because i don't follow that reasoning at all, jeannie. |
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Ok but the fact is, God STILL wiped out an entire populace, and you can not tell me mass murder basically such as that is love, because it's flat not. Some acts simply cannot be justified I don't give a damn how many times you try. God did to them the same thing your government did or will do to the infected birds and animals. If you can justify the mass killing of infected birds and animals, then God is JUST. 
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Nope your God is not, never was. It is NOT justice to drown innocent babies who's only "mistake" was to live in the wrong time. I don't care even if they DID go to Heaven, it is still NOT love to make them suffer before they did. Surely a loving God could find a better way to take them away if it had no other choice.
You can try and justify it and twist it any way you want to, it won't change the facts. |
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Nope your God is not, never was. It is NOT justice to drown innocent babies who's only "mistake" was to live in the wrong time. I don't care even if they DID go to Heaven, it is still NOT love to make them suffer before they did. Surely a loving God could find a better way to take them away if it had no other choice. You can try and justify it and twist it any way you want to, it won't change the facts. No it doesn't change the fact of anything. How is it unjustified, not loving, or anything of such to have to suffer for say an hour, but spend eternity in Heaven? Never have to deal any form of sickness, no physical or emotional pain, no diseases, ect. They were lucky ones if you ask me. |
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Because love does not allow suffering like that. Any God that did allow for it is barbaric and sadistic. You just wanna make excuses for your God.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 10/12/11 09:09 AM
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Because love does not allow suffering like that. Any God that did allow for it is barbaric and sadistic. You just wanna make excuses for your God. suffering is in the eye of the beholder the first five years of my kids life, they 'suffered' regularly with vaccinations but those moments of suffering were worth it to avoid longer periods that may have come had they become ill,,, people suffer amputations to save their life,,, sometimes we do indeed allow suffering to prevent more suffering,,, |
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Wed 10/12/11 09:10 AM
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Unless believers think that divine inspiration is only bestowed upon the most dogmatic gate keepers, then it must be considered that even atheists might be divinely inspired to speak out against religious dogma.
Another thought occurred to me: Those who believe that there is no altering 'God's will' must also believe that those whom they would judge to be doing evil or bad works might also be so inspired by the divine to behave as they do. Doesn't the saying go "Thy will be Done"? If you believe that God's will requires that God intervene, whether by inspiration or by direct intervention then it should be considered that good people behave badly by God's will - why should we try to prevent or punish, what some believe to be bad behavior if it is behavior which God has inspired? How would we know? |
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Unless believers think that divine inspiration is only bestowed upon the most dogmatic gate keepers, then it must be considered that even atheists might be divinely inspired to speak out against religious dogma. Another thought occurred to me: Those who believe that there is no altering 'God's will' must also believe that those whom they would judge to be doing evil or bad works might also be so inspired by the divine to behave as they do. Doesn't the saying go "Thy will be Done"? If you believe that God's will requires that God intervene, whether by inspiration or by direct intervention then it should be considered that good people behave badly by God's will - why should we try to prevent or punish, what some believe to be bad behavior if it is behavior which God has inspired? How would we know? If you believe that God's will requires that God intervene, whether by inspiration or by direct intervention then it should be considered that good people behave badly by God's will - why should we try to prevent or punish, what some believe to be bad behavior if it is behavior which God has inspired? How would we know? What exactly are you talking about? Doing God's will does not require any intervening at all. If you do your mom's will, is she intervening in your free will? Did she force you to do this, because it was her will? And if you are informed of say your mom's will. If you do the contrary to what you've been informed of, would you still be doing your mom's will? Apply this to God, if one does the opposite of what we have been to do or not do, would they then still be doing God's will? How would doing the opposite still be considered as doing the will? |
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Everything happening is basically "God's will." because what we have here is a law of cause and effect and it is working nicely.
What goes around comes around and that which is like unto itself is drawn. I live by the hermetic principles. They work. |
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Everything happening is basically "God's will." because what we have here is a law of cause and effect and it is working nicely. What goes around comes around and that which is like unto itself is drawn. I live by the hermetic principles. They work. So if someone mugged you and killed you in the process...... it would be God's will? A person you don't know, haven't met, and don't know anyone that know's this person. But it would be God's will? Interesting. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Wed 10/12/11 12:19 PM
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Because love does not allow suffering like that. Any God that did allow for it is barbaric and sadistic. You just wanna make excuses for your God. suffering is in the eye of the beholder the first five years of my kids life, they 'suffered' regularly with vaccinations but those moments of suffering were worth it to avoid longer periods that may have come had they become ill,,, people suffer amputations to save their life,,, sometimes we do indeed allow suffering to prevent more suffering,,, Vaccinations is a whole other topic but I won't get into that one here. But in any case there is NO justifying drowning a human being I don't care WHAT the reason is, or where they might go. That suffering is NOT of love and not a damn thing anyone says is going to make it so. If any human tried that they'd be in prison, but yet we accept it of God? Interesting standard that........ Further, I refuse to believe that a God of love could not come up with a better way to remove the innocent from the earth if they had to be taken. God could do anything it wanted, and the best it could do was to do that? Please. That's just not acceptable. |
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This thread is on Divine Inspiration....
A most beautiful topic for a change...... Let's try to stay on topic here....and take our arguments elsewhere... 
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I dont think I got the chance to post it but , for me, divinity and God are one in the same. I do believe many things in my life have been 'divinely' inspired, because I believe God put those paths and those people in my path as a choice for me to make towards a better end than other options
Much of the music I write, the dances I have choreographed, I consider to be divinely inspired because I believe GOD made those situations possible for me to experience and write about, or he made those feelings possible for me to express with my body. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Wed 10/12/11 03:08 PM
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Inspiration
most defintely comes from God. (Msharmony, I am sure that your inspired creations of music and dance, are something quite wonderful to behold. ......  |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 10/12/11 02:44 PM
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Everything happening is basically "God's will." because what we have here is a law of cause and effect and it is working nicely. What goes around comes around and that which is like unto itself is drawn. I live by the hermetic principles. They work. So if someone mugged you and killed you in the process...... it would be God's will? A person you don't know, haven't met, and don't know anyone that know's this person. But it would be God's will? Interesting. It is God's will that the laws that are in place in this world work. They work, whether you like what happens or not. Resistance to what is, is what causes mental suffering and resistance the law causes people to curse God when they don't happen to like what happens. All things that happen have a cause. |
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Everything happening is basically "God's will." because what we have here is a law of cause and effect and it is working nicely. What goes around comes around and that which is like unto itself is drawn. I live by the hermetic principles. They work. So if someone mugged you and killed you in the process...... it would be God's will? A person you don't know, haven't met, and don't know anyone that know's this person. But it would be God's will? Interesting. It is God's will that the laws that are in place in this world work. They work, whether you like what happens or not. Resistance to what is, is what causes mental suffering and resistance the law causes people to curse God when they don't happen to like what happens. All things that happen have a cause. Yes all things have a cause, we live in a world effected by cause and effect. But that doesn't mean it was divinely inspired to happen. Why would God tell us not to do something eg., murder. Then divinely inspire us to murder? That's an oxymoron all in it's own. |
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