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Topic: Can a mutation breed and produce similar mutations?
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Sat 09/10/11 02:55 PM
Subject: Darwinian evolution.

So as far as evolution is concerned, through mutation, can this frog inseminate some frog eggs that will have six eyes? Or would it require both a male and female breeding to produce like offspring?



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Sat 09/10/11 03:10 PM

Subject: Darwinian evolution.

So as far as evolution is concerned, through mutation, can this frog inseminate some frog eggs that will have six eyes? Or would it require both a male and female breeding to produce like offspring?






happens quite often actually. skin pigmentation?

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Sat 09/10/11 03:11 PM
Edited by jrbogie on Sat 09/10/11 03:12 PM


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Sat 09/10/11 03:12 PM
I'm talking about six eyes. Not skin color.laugh laugh :tongue:

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Sat 09/10/11 03:14 PM

I'm talking about six eyes. Not skin color.laugh laugh :tongue:



i answered this question of yours, jeannie.

"Can a mutation breed and produce similar mutations?"

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Sat 09/10/11 03:17 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 09/10/11 03:18 PM


I'm talking about six eyes. Not skin color.laugh laugh :tongue:



i answered this question of yours, jeannie.

"Can a mutation breed and produce similar mutations?"


I don't think skin color qualifies as a mutation, at least not in my book.

This question is the one I am interested in:

Can this frog inseminate some frog eggs that will hatch out and have six eyes?

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Sat 09/10/11 03:19 PM
Would a frog with six eyes be genetically capable of reproducing more frogs with six eyes?


Dan99's photo
Sat 09/10/11 03:25 PM
Is that actually a real frog? I have my doubts.

If it is a real frog, i dont see why it wouldn't be able to breed another similar frog.


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Sat 09/10/11 03:30 PM

Is that actually a real frog? I have my doubts.

If it is a real frog, i dont see why it wouldn't be able to breed another similar frog.




Yes I believe it is a real frog that for some reason has mutated.
Mutations are seen often in frogs.


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Sat 09/10/11 03:47 PM


Is that actually a real frog? I have my doubts.

If it is a real frog, i dont see why it wouldn't be able to breed another similar frog.




Yes I believe it is a real frog that for some reason has mutated.
Mutations are seen often in frogs.




I googled '6 eyed frog' and couldnt find anything to prove that is real, but then i didnt spend much time on it.

Assuming that frog is real, it must have the genetics to have 6 eyes, and there is no reason i can think of(though i know little about biology) to say there is no possibility for those genes to be passed on to its offspring. But then, i don't think it is a definate, animals(including humans) can have some very weird and wonderful conditions that are not necessarily passed on. The Elephant Man might well have been able to have normal looking children for example. Though who would sleep with him?!

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Sat 09/10/11 04:15 PM
Okay I found it, and it is a fake.

I know that multi-legged frogs have been found. I never heard of multi-eyed frogs.

Here is a link to the fake pictures:

http://www.hopkinton.k12.ma.us/hsteach/mmcfarland/classes/1st_semester/wpd.07/projects/final/Farrell-Final/farrell-CSS2/itempage1.html


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Sat 09/10/11 04:40 PM



I'm talking about six eyes. Not skin color.laugh laugh :tongue:



i answered this question of yours, jeannie.

"Can a mutation breed and produce similar mutations?"


I don't think skin color qualifies as a mutation, at least not in my book.

This question is the one I am interested in:

Can this frog inseminate some frog eggs that will hatch out and have six eyes?


I think my caucasian coloring is a mutation of the original human coloring.

Dan99's photo
Sat 09/10/11 04:41 PM

Okay I found it, and it is a fake.

I know that multi-legged frogs have been found. I never heard of multi-eyed frogs.

Here is a link to the fake pictures:

http://www.hopkinton.k12.ma.us/hsteach/mmcfarland/classes/1st_semester/wpd.07/projects/final/Farrell-Final/farrell-CSS2/itempage1.html




I though all frogs were multi-legged!

I just had another google. There are actually various types of four-eyed frogs. Though the extra two eyes are false eyes on the back/hips which are apparantly there to give the impression it can see you no matter if you are in front of it or behind it.


TexasScoundrel's photo
Sun 09/11/11 06:40 AM

Subject: Darwinian evolution.

So as far as evolution is concerned, through mutation, can this frog inseminate some frog eggs that will have six eyes? Or would it require both a male and female breeding to produce like offspring?





It doesn't matter if it's a real frog or not. That is beside the point. The question is about evolution and mutation.

Assuming this frog can survive long enough to reach sexual maturity, attract a mate and successfully produce offspring, at least some of it's offspring are likely to carry the genes that produce six eyes. That doesn't mean it will. It means six eyed frogs are likely to crop up again down the line.

If six eyed frogs are more successful at producing offspring than two eyed frogs, six eyed frogs would naturally come to dominate the landscape.

It's no different than humans with red hair or Roman noses or color blindness.

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Sun 09/11/11 07:12 AM
'Zactly. A mutation is an alteration in the gene that in this case is expressed with a visible noticeable trait (6 eyes). Since it's in the genetic code of that organism, it can be passed down. This is why dog breeders (responsible ones) won't breed a dog with hip dysplasia or deafness associated with white coloration....because selective breeding can increase the probability of the mutation's trait / "abnormality" if you will, reappearing. But it can be harnessed as well-- the reason a plant hybridizer might intentionally collect seed from a giant ruffled petalled bright pink petunia or take a cutting from a seedless orange--to capture that mutation.

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Sun 09/11/11 11:06 AM

I don't think skin color qualifies as a mutation, at least not in my book.



well no wonder we never seem to be on the same page jeannie. i've never read your book.:banana:

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Sun 09/11/11 11:17 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 09/11/11 11:24 AM
ON MUTATIONS:

Rex Cats are cats with curly fur. Genetically, they generally carry a recessive gene. Exception is this one, the Selkirk Rex.

I wonder what causes a gene to be recessive or dominate?




Rex Cat Genetics
The curly hair is caused by a spontaneously occurring mutant gene, which is usually recessive. Therefore the ‘permed’ cats will disappear naturally unless they are carefully bred to develop the breed. However, the Selkirk Rex gene appears to be genetically dominant.



Read more at Suite101: Rex Cats: Felines with Curly or Wavy Hair: Devon, Cornish, and Selkirk Rex Cat - and there are 14 Other Types | Suite101.com

http://helenkrasner.suite101.com/rex-cats-felines-with-permed-hair-a61329#ixzz1XfWdw08a

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Sun 09/11/11 11:18 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 09/11/11 11:35 AM


I don't think skin color qualifies as a mutation, at least not in my book.



well no wonder we never seem to be on the same page jeannie. i've never read your book.:banana:


laugh laugh laugh

I don't know, I've read yours. :tongue: I'm on the same page with you a lot.

<-----Nice Picture


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Sun 09/11/11 11:31 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 09/11/11 11:35 AM
Hello Ted!

I like this picture of you the best. Nice profile. How long have you lived in New York?

What kind of bird was flip?


<----Nice Picture


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Sun 09/11/11 03:55 PM

Hello Ted!

I like this picture of you the best. Nice profile. How long have you lived in New York?

What kind of bird was flip?


<----Nice Picture




Thanks Jeanie, I always say pictures of me with my Grandchildren make me look good. I cropped that picture to post on Mingle(of course I saved the original). I've been in New York since the day I was born (1948). I was born in NYC and moved north to Lake Ontario by the time I was 2. And Flip was a Cockatiel. I still pause when I shake open a plastic garbage bag because it used to startle him.

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