Topic: Wisconsin GOP keep control after failed recall
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Wed 08/10/11 04:57 AM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Wed 08/10/11 04:58 AM
I'm no fan of either the republican or democrat party and am a Tea Party supporter, I figure if both the republicans and democrats don't like em that's reason enough for me to like them. Now this is about the GOP and a failed high jacking of government from the left and leads me to ask, no, hypothesize that this is what to expect come November. Our country is in a free fall right now and the jackasses in control of the senate and white house are spending money like a porn star drops her panties and if things don't turn around (which they won't) the democrats are going the way of the dinosaur. Now if only the republicans will screw up big time this will open the door wide open for the Tea Party.

Madison – Republicans held onto control of the Wisconsin Senate on Tuesday, defeating four Democratic challengers in a recall election despite an intense political backlash against GOP support for Gov. Scott Walker's effort to curb public employees' union rights.

Fueled by millions of dollars from national labor groups, the attempt to remove GOP incumbents served as both a referendum on Walker's conservative revolution and could provide a new gauge of the public mood less than a year after Republicans made sweeping gains in this state and many others.

Two Democratic incumbents face recalls next week, but even if Democrats win those they will still be in the minority.

Turnout was strong in the morning and steady in the afternoon in communities such as Whitefish Bay, Menomonee Falls and Shorewood, where Sen. Alberta Darling was one of the four Republicans to hold onto her seat.

Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.

"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."

John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.

"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."

Until this year, there had been only 20 attempts since 1913 to recall any of the nation's state lawmakers from office. Just 13 of the efforts were successful.

Also winning on Tuesday was Democratic state Rep. Jennifer Shilling of La Crosse, defeating incumbent Republican Sen. Dan Kapanke, who had been in the Senate since 2004. The other Republican ousted was first-term incumbent Sen. Randy Hopper of Fond du Lac, defeated by Democrat Jessica King, the former deputy mayor of Oshkosh.

Republican Sens. Sheila Harsdorf of River Falls, Rob Cowles of Allouez and Luther Olsen of Ripon all held onto their seats.

The stakes in Wisconsin were clearly much larger than control of the Senate. Democrats cast the recall results, in which they picked up two seats, as a rebuff of the Republican revolution started by Walker but it clearly wasn't all that they wanted. Both parties also were testing messages ahead of the 2012 presidential race, in which Wisconsin was expected to be an important swing state.

Republican and Democratic strategists were leery of reading too much into the results heading into next year's campaign.

The recall effort helped stir passions in the Democratic base "in ways we might never have been able to achieve on our own," said Roy Temple, a Democratic political consultant with extensive experience in the Midwest. But, he said, that doesn't mean the recall can offer much more than hints about broader trends.

"Wisconsin was a swing state before, and it will be after," Temple said. "Maybe (the recall) is a sign of strong intensity, and that's not meaningless, but it's not predictive."

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said the party was "all in" to win the races. A coalition of national unions spent millions on attack ads and other campaign activity to wrest seats from the Republicans. Conservative groups also spent millions.

It all amounted to a summer unlike any other in Wisconsin. More than $31 million was estimated to have been spent on the nine recall efforts, rivaling the $37 million spent on last year's governor's race.

"I feel that a lot of people didn't get their way, threw a crybaby fit and decided to have a recall. The majority of Wisconsin already voted," said 43-year-old Ross Birkigt of Menomonee Falls. "It's a shame that all of sudden this happens and that a lot of special-interest money gets poured into it. I'm kind getting sick of seeing this stuff on TV every single minute.

Republicans won control of both houses of the Legislature and the governor's office in the 2010 election just nine months ago.

The Legislature that had been approving Republican-backed bills in rapid succession will likely grind to a halt if Democrats win back the Senate. They would then be able to block anything from passage without a bipartisan agreement.

Any newly elected senator will take office within 15 days, a brief window in which Republican Senate leaders could call a lame-duck session if they are about to lose control.

The races next Tuesday target Sens. Bob Wirch of Pleasant Prairie and Jim Holperin of Conover.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/wisconsin-gop-holds-off-democrats-in-recall-elections/#ixzz1Ucs1EMfZ

InvictusV's photo
Wed 08/10/11 05:56 AM

I'm no fan of either the republican or democrat party and am a Tea Party supporter, I figure if both the republicans and democrats don't like em that's reason enough for me to like them. Now this is about the GOP and a failed high jacking of government from the left and leads me to ask, no, hypothesize that this is what to expect come November. Our country is in a free fall right now and the jackasses in control of the senate and white house are spending money like a porn star drops her panties and if things don't turn around (which they won't) the democrats are going the way of the dinosaur. Now if only the republicans will screw up big time this will open the door wide open for the Tea Party.

Madison – Republicans held onto control of the Wisconsin Senate on Tuesday, defeating four Democratic challengers in a recall election despite an intense political backlash against GOP support for Gov. Scott Walker's effort to curb public employees' union rights.

Fueled by millions of dollars from national labor groups, the attempt to remove GOP incumbents served as both a referendum on Walker's conservative revolution and could provide a new gauge of the public mood less than a year after Republicans made sweeping gains in this state and many others.

Two Democratic incumbents face recalls next week, but even if Democrats win those they will still be in the minority.

Turnout was strong in the morning and steady in the afternoon in communities such as Whitefish Bay, Menomonee Falls and Shorewood, where Sen. Alberta Darling was one of the four Republicans to hold onto her seat.

Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.

"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."

John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.

"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."

Until this year, there had been only 20 attempts since 1913 to recall any of the nation's state lawmakers from office. Just 13 of the efforts were successful.

Also winning on Tuesday was Democratic state Rep. Jennifer Shilling of La Crosse, defeating incumbent Republican Sen. Dan Kapanke, who had been in the Senate since 2004. The other Republican ousted was first-term incumbent Sen. Randy Hopper of Fond du Lac, defeated by Democrat Jessica King, the former deputy mayor of Oshkosh.

Republican Sens. Sheila Harsdorf of River Falls, Rob Cowles of Allouez and Luther Olsen of Ripon all held onto their seats.

The stakes in Wisconsin were clearly much larger than control of the Senate. Democrats cast the recall results, in which they picked up two seats, as a rebuff of the Republican revolution started by Walker but it clearly wasn't all that they wanted. Both parties also were testing messages ahead of the 2012 presidential race, in which Wisconsin was expected to be an important swing state.

Republican and Democratic strategists were leery of reading too much into the results heading into next year's campaign.

The recall effort helped stir passions in the Democratic base "in ways we might never have been able to achieve on our own," said Roy Temple, a Democratic political consultant with extensive experience in the Midwest. But, he said, that doesn't mean the recall can offer much more than hints about broader trends.

"Wisconsin was a swing state before, and it will be after," Temple said. "Maybe (the recall) is a sign of strong intensity, and that's not meaningless, but it's not predictive."

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said the party was "all in" to win the races. A coalition of national unions spent millions on attack ads and other campaign activity to wrest seats from the Republicans. Conservative groups also spent millions.

It all amounted to a summer unlike any other in Wisconsin. More than $31 million was estimated to have been spent on the nine recall efforts, rivaling the $37 million spent on last year's governor's race.

"I feel that a lot of people didn't get their way, threw a crybaby fit and decided to have a recall. The majority of Wisconsin already voted," said 43-year-old Ross Birkigt of Menomonee Falls. "It's a shame that all of sudden this happens and that a lot of special-interest money gets poured into it. I'm kind getting sick of seeing this stuff on TV every single minute.

Republicans won control of both houses of the Legislature and the governor's office in the 2010 election just nine months ago.

The Legislature that had been approving Republican-backed bills in rapid succession will likely grind to a halt if Democrats win back the Senate. They would then be able to block anything from passage without a bipartisan agreement.

Any newly elected senator will take office within 15 days, a brief window in which Republican Senate leaders could call a lame-duck session if they are about to lose control.

The races next Tuesday target Sens. Bob Wirch of Pleasant Prairie and Jim Holperin of Conover.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/wisconsin-gop-holds-off-democrats-in-recall-elections/#ixzz1Ucs1EMfZ



It was only a matter of time.

The world is a witness to the failed policies of the big spending, something for nothing crowd.




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Wed 08/10/11 07:20 AM
'twas a good day here in WI. I'm wondering how all those who pay union dues who's money (over 30 million) was dumped into the recall elections feel today? we will see how the recalls of 2 democrat senators go next week. The silent majority spoke in November and spoke again yesterday. Hopefully we will still ha e the strength to speak again next week.

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/10/11 07:25 AM
does it change though?

personally, I feel the 'tea party' has little clue about the real 'job' of a politician and are partly responsible for this latest 'hold up' that brought us so close to the limit for paying our bills and helped contribute to the rush to 'lower' our perceived credit

and when another 'party' has control and enough things dont go 'our way' we will blame that 'party' and elect the candidates from the other,,,,

until that party has control and enough things dont go our way,,


in the end, they are all just human and they are gonna have plenty of things they dont get right, regardless of their political party...

TJN's photo
Wed 08/10/11 08:05 AM

does it change though?

personally, I feel the 'tea party' has little clue about the real 'job' of a politician and are partly responsible for this latest 'hold up' that brought us so close to the limit for paying our bills and helped contribute to the rush to 'lower' our perceived credit

and when another 'party' has control and enough things dont go 'our way' we will blame that 'party' and elect the candidates from the other,,,,

until that party has control and enough things dont go our way,,


in the end, they are all just human and they are gonna have plenty of things they dont get right, regardless of their political party...

This has nothing to do with the Tea Party and the national debt ceiling. It was about the democrats pushing recall elections which turned out to be a big waste of money. The democrats won only 2 of 6 seats in the state senate and the democrats still hold control. It just goes to show that the people of WI are behind Gov Walker and his agenda in WI. which by the way in he few months he has been in office has taken our state from a 3 billion dollar deficit and has a projected surplus of 3 million this budget cycle.

InvictusV's photo
Wed 08/10/11 10:55 AM

does it change though?

personally, I feel the 'tea party' has little clue about the real 'job' of a politician and are partly responsible for this latest 'hold up' that brought us so close to the limit for paying our bills and helped contribute to the rush to 'lower' our perceived credit

and when another 'party' has control and enough things dont go 'our way' we will blame that 'party' and elect the candidates from the other,,,,

until that party has control and enough things dont go our way,,


in the end, they are all just human and they are gonna have plenty of things they dont get right, regardless of their political party...


You know that if it wasn't for the tea party helping to get rid of the democrats majority in the house this debt ceiling debate would have just been another rubber stamp job and our credit rating wouldn't be AA+.

I don't know what else has to happen or be said for "some" people to finally come to grips with our debt issues.


boredinaz06's photo
Wed 08/10/11 11:04 AM

does it change though?

personally, I feel the 'tea party' has little clue about the real 'job' of a politician and are partly responsible for this latest 'hold up' that brought us so close to the limit for paying our bills and helped contribute to the rush to 'lower' our perceived credit

and when another 'party' has control and enough things dont go 'our way' we will blame that 'party' and elect the candidates from the other,,,,

until that party has control and enough things dont go our way,,


in the end, they are all just human and they are gonna have plenty of things they dont get right, regardless of their political party...


The way I see it is the Tea Party is holding peoples feet to the fire and they don't like it. The feds are out of control and out of touch with something called reality and I see the Tea Party as a minority trying to bring them around to living within their means like the rest of us. Obama has spent 11 trillion dollars in two years and we have nothing to show for it, the economy is still as bad as ever, unemployment is still down in the sewer and all his spending was supposed to make things all better. Well, its not better and he wants to spend more money and this is what the Tea Party "terrorists" are trying to stop.

no photo
Wed 08/17/11 07:58 PM
Eight races at stake. Six of them in bright red districts. Dems win half of them. 30-40 million Koch Brother dollars fail to do the job ($8 million, just in one race? ) Scott Walker's ratings are even lower than any of those Rebublicans'.