Topic: Television is preparing us for the Aliens.
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Wed 07/27/11 07:53 AM


The discovery Channel, the History Channel, movies, and now a new series about an alien invasion are all preparing humans on earth for the idea that aliens exist.

No scientist I know of will say for certain that we are alone in the universe.

More than 75% of people today believe that UFO's are real, and that aliens exist.

Records of Sky ships go back to the 1700's.

Aliens..... exist.

Does anyone doubt that?

Do they look human? Are they among us? Are they friendly or are they planning on taking control of the earth?

If and when they do.... will humans be their pets, their slaves or their food?






where is the proof aliens exist?

I find this similar to belief in some God.

There is no proof. People believe it or not.

How are aliens any different?

There just has to be because there just has to is not sufficient in my eyes to equate scientific proof.

People that believe in aliens are NO different than someone believing in God.




I agree with this. People swear that god exists, yet I've seen no proof. People swear that aliens exist, yet I've seen no proof. Just because someone says there is proof, it means nothing unless they're actually able to show that proof and that hasn't happened.

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Wed 07/27/11 08:12 AM


The point is that the stuff that is on television and in the movies is conditioning the public to the idea that aliens do exist or existed on the earth in the past.

It is a gradual process. It has been going on for a long time. It is a mind control method to slowly prepare humans for the news that aliens do exist.

You don't have to believe me, just pay attention to what is going on. There will always be a few people who will resist the idea until the very end.

Yes, I bet there are not many scientists who will declare there is no such thing, or that we are alone in the universe. Care to take that bet?








TV will play whatever makes them money, plain and simple... if more people will watch a show about aliens and ufos, then thats what will be on... it is strickly about the money with TV... the advertisers will not pay to put a commercial on that nobody is watching the program...


Yes, exactly.

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Wed 07/27/11 08:12 AM
where is the proof aliens exist?

Seems the Proof is in the doing.

Those who know about ETs and can vector in the Mama Ships have no doubt.

See Dr. Steven Greer Disclosureproject.org.

Anyone who spends the time to learn about Dr. Greer, his work and his experiences will have no doubt about the reality of the ET Presence. Not to mention the 500+ Witnesses that can and will testify before Congress regarding their experiences and/or work on the subject.

Do not forgot Col. Phil Corso, in The Day after Roswell.

Just imagine for a moment, the US Army recovering an ET Spacecraft, with occupants, and the thing was Running in 1947. The world changed that day.


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Wed 07/27/11 08:46 AM
For some reason people seem to think I am supposed to debate or present proof of the existence of aliens for them. Proof is simply a matter of what evidence convinces you.

Jrboogie I have stated twice that is not my intention. In fact, I said in general that IT IS BETTER if people don't believe in aliens. So why would I want to convince anyone.

you're here to debate YOUR position then debate YOUR position. if YOU cannot do that and need a source to debate YOUR position then i'm not interested


Good, you're not interested. I knew that all along. If you were interested, you would do your own research. laugh

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Wed 07/27/11 08:51 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 07/27/11 08:54 AM



The discovery Channel, the History Channel, movies, and now a new series about an alien invasion are all preparing humans on earth for the idea that aliens exist.

No scientist I know of will say for certain that we are alone in the universe.

More than 75% of people today believe that UFO's are real, and that aliens exist.

Records of Sky ships go back to the 1700's.

Aliens..... exist.

Does anyone doubt that?

Do they look human? Are they among us? Are they friendly or are they planning on taking control of the earth?

If and when they do.... will humans be their pets, their slaves or their food?






where is the proof aliens exist?

I find this similar to belief in some God.

There is no proof. People believe it or not.

How are aliens any different?

There just has to be because there just has to is not sufficient in my eyes to equate scientific proof.

People that believe in aliens are NO different than someone believing in God.




I agree with this. People swear that god exists, yet I've seen no proof. People swear that aliens exist, yet I've seen no proof. Just because someone says there is proof, it means nothing unless they're actually able to show that proof and that hasn't happened.


I've seen no proof that the earth goes around the sun either. In fact it looks like the sun goes around the earth from my point of view.

I trust in what others have told me.

And what I said about aliens is:

I believe it is very likely that aliens exist.

I did not claim have proof. My claim is that I think it is very likely that aliens exist.

I have my own reasons.



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Wed 07/27/11 09:15 AM




I can't present all the evidence because it involves more than three years of research and personal experience, my own logical deductions, reasoning, etc.


fine, didn't ask for ALL the evidence. any evidence will do. you demand evidence from the god fearing folks when they make their claims and cite their research and personal experiences. is there evidence to support your own 'logical deductions, reasoning, etc., or not. if not, whot logical deductions led you to your reasoning. jennie you ask very similar questions of christians in the religious forums. fair's fair, no?




I haven't been asking those questions lately. I know all they really have is the Bible, and pursuing that argument is a waste of time, although a book by a Jewish Historian pretty much reveals that the story of King David, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, and the Israelite s wandering in the desert for 40 years never happened. His name is Shlomo Sand and the book is "The invention of the Jewish People"

You probably have access to all the same evidence that I do via the Internet. I have read other books that maybe you have not read. I have evaluated accounts of alien abductions of different kinds. One book called "Hunt for the Skinwalker" was about a study of strange happenings on a ranch near the four corners by a team of scientists. Very interesting. Other books I have read add to my body of information that I have considered in my over-all world view. That will include books by scientists, spiritualists, theorists, etc. Not all of them point to, suggest or claim anything about aliens but all contribute to my over all picture of reality and the world. Not that I am claiming that any of them are 100% true or understood. Here a a few: books I have read.. just a few.

The fabric of Reality, David Deutsch
The Holographic Universe, Michael Talbot
The End of Time, Julian Barbour
The Law of Attraction, Esther and Jerry Hicks
The Field, Wayne W. Dyer
Journeys out of the Body, Robert Monroe (three books)
Chariots of the GODS.
The biggest Secret, David Icke,
Matrix V - Val Valerian

Mind you this is just a sample. I have read accounts of alien abductions, met and spoken to several abductees, investigated mutilated cattle sights, interviewed ranchers who were threatened by men in silent black helicopters when silent black helicopters were said to not even exist. The men had had so many cattle mutilations that they were driving around their property with shotguns at night. They were approached by a silent black helicopter and were told to get out of the area. It was their own property. Guess what? Silent black helicopters did not exist at that time. They were still classified vehicles.

I have also seen several UFO's myself and even photographed one. But its so tiny you can't see much but three dots. It was a triangular craft. I personally know people who have had close encounters with UFO's and missing time who might have been abducted.

~~ Just a small sample of the reason for my conclusions.

It is certainly not enough for me to think I can prove anything to anyone else. Just personal experience, logical deduction, reasoning and piecing things together. I am no longer engaged in the study of aliens or trying to prove they exist. I just don't scoff at the idea anymore. I consider it as a very likely possibility.






i'll not read through YOUR many sources to find YOUR evidence that YOU claim exists to support YOUR notions. you're here to debate YOUR position then debate YOUR position. if YOU cannot do that and need a source to debate YOUR position then i'm not interested. i asked you again for evidence that YOU brought up here and again YOU failed to produce it. i'll leave it at that.


Her saying there is evidence is in actuality.. her evidence.

Anytime someone states at all or most of something believes in something and that if you don't you just aren't smart enough, you can rest assure that whatever it is they all supposedly believe is nonsense.




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Wed 07/27/11 09:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 07/27/11 09:40 AM
I am honest about what I think. That is not saying anything about how dumb or how smart anyone else is. That isn't really a concern of mine.

I only speak from my own personal experience and from what I have seen and read. It is very unlikely that we humans are the only intelligent beings in the universe.

I speak to people who are open to this line of thinking. If you believe that humans are the only living intelligent life in the entire universe I think that is pretty amazing itself. If you don't have any concept of a God,that is a personal thing. I don't see any evidence of God, (other than the fact that we exist) but I've seen and heard of evidence of aliens, just short of capturing one. laugh I'm not willing to try to do that. :tongue:


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Wed 07/27/11 09:39 AM
Alien next door! Obаma

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Wed 07/27/11 09:39 AM

All great truths begin as blasphemies. George Bernard Shaw

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Wed 07/27/11 09:40 AM


I've seen no proof that the earth goes around the sun either. In fact it looks like the sun goes around the earth from my point of view.

I trust in what others have told me.

And what I said about aliens is:

I believe it is very likely that aliens exist.

I did not claim have proof. My claim is that I think it is very likely that aliens exist.

I have my own reasons.





You can certainly have your own reasons for believing in aliens. No one is telling you that you shouldn't believe. But, that doesn't mean that others can't have their own beliefs as well. Just because you believe in aliens, it doesn't mean others should automatically trust what you say to be true.

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Wed 07/27/11 09:45 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 07/27/11 09:47 AM



I've seen no proof that the earth goes around the sun either. In fact it looks like the sun goes around the earth from my point of view.

I trust in what others have told me.

And what I said about aliens is:

I believe it is very likely that aliens exist.

I did not claim have proof. My claim is that I think it is very likely that aliens exist.

I have my own reasons.





You can certainly have your own reasons for believing in aliens. No one is telling you that you shouldn't believe. But, that doesn't mean that others can't have their own beliefs as well. Just because you believe in aliens, it doesn't mean others should automatically trust what you say to be true.


Exactly.

...but excuse me... when did I imply that others can't have their own beliefs as well?

In fact, I said that IT IS BETTER if others do not believe in them.
I would have rather remained in that group myself.

I did not want to believe that they existed.
But there was too much evidence to the contrary.
so... I decided to consider the possibility that they do.

And I have come to the conclusion that it is very likely that aliens (non-human sentient life forms) exist.

If that bothers people, oh well.



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Wed 07/27/11 09:58 AM




I've seen no proof that the earth goes around the sun either. In fact it looks like the sun goes around the earth from my point of view.

I trust in what others have told me.

And what I said about aliens is:

I believe it is very likely that aliens exist.

I did not claim have proof. My claim is that I think it is very likely that aliens exist.

I have my own reasons.





You can certainly have your own reasons for believing in aliens. No one is telling you that you shouldn't believe. But, that doesn't mean that others can't have their own beliefs as well. Just because you believe in aliens, it doesn't mean others should automatically trust what you say to be true.


Exactly.

...but excuse me... when did I imply that others can't have their own beliefs as well?

In fact, I said that IT IS BETTER if others do not believe in them.
I would have rather remained in that group myself.

I did not want to believe that they existed.
But there was too much evidence to the contrary.
so... I decided to consider the possibility that they do.

And I have come to the conclusion that it is very likely that aliens (non-human sentient life forms) exist.

If that bothers people, oh well.





Well, you did seem to imply that something was wrong with those who didn't agree.. with at least a few of the things you've said here.


So you think you are smarter than the men who founded this country? Apparently they believed in aliens.

I bet there are not many scientists that believe we are alone in the universe and that no intelligent life exists in this entire galaxy.

I can't wait until your book comes out. You have all the answers to all the mysteries and I bet. Feel free to share you vast knowledge.




Everywhere. There are too many sources to mention.
Where have you been? Hiding under a rock? :tongue:





What exactly do you do with these mysteries? Just ignore them? That's typical.laugh laugh

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Wed 07/27/11 09:59 AM

>If that bothers people, oh well.

This is all so very curious...

Seems people get their nickers in a bundle over this ET stuff... Its right up there with who's God has a bigger BOOK kinda feel to it.

I do think this subject bothers people, most of which is probably programmed into us since childhood...

We've all seen enough hungry killer ET movies to have the required xenophobia, thank you secrete government overlords.

Truth is: if the ET's were here to harm Us, the Planet, poor little cows, they'd be done by now, and there wouldn't be any question of the cause.

Truth is: you're all still breathing the free air of God's Green Earth, so whatever the ET's are doing, its not "A National Security Issue" as they say....

Disclosure is gaining speed, even Richard C. Hoagland agrees.





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Wed 07/27/11 10:10 AM
Well, you did seem to imply that something was wrong with those who didn't agree.. with at least a few of the things you've said here.


Yep, that's payback for the many times people have ridiculed me for expressing my thoughts on the subject.

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Wed 07/27/11 10:12 AM
Edited by singmesweet on Wed 07/27/11 10:12 AM
Oh, so you were just getting them back for doing the same thing to you? You don't really believe that everyone should actually believe the same as you? Or that for some reason, something is wrong with those who don't? At least you're being honest about that.

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Wed 07/27/11 10:13 AM


>If that bothers people, oh well.

This is all so very curious...

Seems people get their nickers in a bundle over this ET stuff... Its right up there with who's God has a bigger BOOK kinda feel to it.

I do think this subject bothers people, most of which is probably programmed into us since childhood...

We've all seen enough hungry killer ET movies to have the required xenophobia, thank you secrete government overlords.

Truth is: if the ET's were here to harm Us, the Planet, poor little cows, they'd be done by now, and there wouldn't be any question of the cause.

Truth is: you're all still breathing the free air of God's Green Earth, so whatever the ET's are doing, its not "A National Security Issue" as they say....

Disclosure is gaining speed, even Richard C. Hoagland agrees.








Well they are here to infiltrate covertly so some people say. Sort of like the secret government overlords....laugh

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Wed 07/27/11 10:15 AM

Oh, so you were just getting them back for doing the same thing to you? You don't really believe that everyone should actually believe the same as you? Or that for some reason, something is wrong with those who don't? At least you're being honest about that.


I'm honest about everything I say.

That's what bugs people I guess. :tongue:

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Wed 07/27/11 10:15 AM
Well, not quite. You just said you were saying certain things to get back at others. So either you were being honest then, or you're being honest now in admitting that. Can't really be both. :wink:

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Wed 07/27/11 10:21 AM
infiltrate covertly


Nah, I don't buy it...
Only Humans care about control and international banking.

Those capable of inter-dimensional travel, have no need to do anything covertly; I do think they're beyond that type of mischief.

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Wed 07/27/11 10:40 AM



The discovery Channel, the History Channel, movies, and now a new series about an alien invasion are all preparing humans on earth for the idea that aliens exist.

No scientist I know of will say for certain that we are alone in the universe.

More than 75% of people today believe that UFO's are real, and that aliens exist.

Records of Sky ships go back to the 1700's.

Aliens..... exist.

Does anyone doubt that?

Do they look human? Are they among us? Are they friendly or are they planning on taking control of the earth?

If and when they do.... will humans be their pets, their slaves or their food?






where is the proof aliens exist?

I find this similar to belief in some God.

There is no proof. People believe it or not.

How are aliens any different?

There just has to be because there just has to is not sufficient in my eyes to equate scientific proof.

People that believe in aliens are NO different than someone believing in God.




I agree with this. People swear that god exists, yet I've seen no proof. People swear that aliens exist, yet I've seen no proof. Just because someone says there is proof, it means nothing unless they're actually able to show that proof and that hasn't happened.


what kind of proof do you want? how many ufo sightings are there in a year? and that dates back thousands of years... the only proof some people will accept is when an alien comes and kicks them in the butt...