If some advanced being appeared before me and told me he was my "creator" I would say,

"So what?"

I probably would not believe him anyway. I'm such a skeptic. I would think he was just some alien trying to fool me.

I am not concerned with who might have created me.

I am only concerned with who might be wanting to destroy me.

But isn't that really all we can do anyway? Self-fulfillment and self-achievement.

What can you do in this world other than pursue self-fulfillment and self-achievement.

You might say, "Well I can help others achieve self-fulfillment and self-achievement."

So? Self-fulfillment and self-achievement would still be the ultimate goal for humans in general then.

If you're helping another person achieve self-fulfillment and self-achievement, that might seem like a "selfless" thing to do from your personal perspective, but in the big picture it still comes down to some "self" being fulfilled or achieving something.

As humans, there is really nothing we can do but strive for self-fulfillment and self-achievement. Even if from our own perspective we are actually helping other human beings to achieve self-fulfillment and self-achievement. It's still the end result.

Some human being is achieving self-fulfillment and self-achievement.

That evidently is the ONLY purpose life can have insofar as we can know, or even accomplish.

There really is nothing else you can do other than become lethargic or actually destructive and oppressive toward the self-fulfillment and self-achievements of yourself or other.

So really the meaning of life necessarily must come down to self-fulfillment and self-achievement, whether there is a creator or not.

Whether you help others, or help yourself the final result is the same. Some human being end ups achieving self-fulfillment and self-achievement.

What else is there?

If that makes us our own God, then BINGO, that's what we must be. Because we really can't do much of anything else. What else could we do other than to be destructive?

You know speaking of this meaning and if thier is one then the prophecy are sure to come.

No meaning. I wonder if u have heard of it. the scriptures and artifacts but mainly books.that US soldiers found in a basement of a old home in Irag.

What i find intruiguig is Iraq saaid we could recondition them. but we do not want to give them back.. says thier is great history of us in it.

I wonder what they found? Is it great knowledge? Blesssings..Miles

IF all we did was be self fulfilling, we would need no laws restricting us from anything or permitting us anything. WE fulfill a certain 'community' participation that goes beyond just our OWN pleasures.

I could be self fulfilling by keeping all my money and not sharing anything with anyone,, more for me. Instead , I am cognizant of my place as a part of a community and the need to share and care for others.


I could be self fulfilling by saying exactly what I feel , disregarding how anyone else feels. Instead, I am aware of treating others the way I want to be treated, I am aware of life not being just about ME or just about MY SURVIVAL.

so, no, I dont agree that "ALL' we can do is be self fulfilling.

Your idea of what self fulfilling is may not be the same as what Abra is talking about. By your post, it seems like you feel "self fulfilling" simply means being selfish and getting what you want without concern for anyone else.

But what do people really want? Material things? Not really.

People want to be liked, they want to be loved, they want respect and to be well thought of. People want to "fit in" to their community, therefore they will do things that will fulfill that desire and achieve what they want.

People want to respect themselves and think well of themselves, therefore they will do things for other people. People need people.

Its not just about money and survival, msharmony. Of course some people are all about that, and it consumes them, survival is not achieving "self fulfillment."

Self fulfillment is living well, being well thought of, having love and happiness, doing things you like to do, contributing to society and the culture, enjoying life, helping others etc.

Yep that is what people really want. They want to thrive and be happy.

Thanks for helping me out here guys. Your brilliant!

So now I know
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I'm not really here

Nothing really exist

I'm a God that isn't aware what I have done

I created a universe

All of you are also Gods

I'm God but all I can do is fulfill myself
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How could I have been so blind.

"what else is there?" LOL

Yep, you guys are brainiacs for sure. Can't wait to read about you in the history books. If they get the translation right that is. LOL

mg1959

I don't know how you got to that after reading these posts, but okay, whatever want to believe.

(I know that you think you have all the right answers and you are just being sarcastic towards people you think don't.)

As long as you are happy.

Never ever ever have I said I have all the answers, so put that little attack back where it came from.

What I say is I believe God has all the answers and you don't like that I say that for some reason and it gets you worked up.

I am not (a) God, but I appreciate that you think so highly of me

I kind of think you are pretty cool too,,,

Hi Sis

You might even say I worship the ground you walk on me lady.

Your sarcasm speaks volumes dear. You are the one getting worked up.

I'm all worked up? And here I thought I was relaxing eating this great burrito while reading people going around in circles while making themselves Gods.

That's it? That's all? That's as far as you can go? You can't see any deeper than that? I'm serious, you really can't see deeper than that? There is no big picture for you?

If you are not all worked up, then why would you project and think that I am all worked up?

Cause I want there to be a football season and you obviously don't care. If you did care than you would admit that Cleveland has a chance to win over 5 games this year.

first you would be in a spiritual body if it was GOD not your normal one.

second demons are posing as aliens

third GOD can destroy you like no other so please worship him and only him.

Meaningless.........



But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.




But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet.

17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.




For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of our Master and Savior Yahshua, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
NKJV

You are the one who apparently has very selfish inconsiderate ideas of what you feel would be "self-fulfilling and self-achievement"

So from you're point of view it would be 'self-fulfilling' to selfish and greedy, hoard all your money and be rude to people?

You would find that to be "self-fulfilling"?

I wouldn't find that to be fulfilling in the slightest MsHarmony.



Truly. I would never consider the things that MsHarmony described to be "fulfilling" in any way.

I do not personally view selfishness and greed as something that I would find to be fulfilling.

So I don't even think like MsHarmony at all.

Moreover, is that how MsHarmony would act if she didn't believe in a God?

Is a belief in a God the only thing that keeps her from "fulfilling" her personal desire to be greedy, overly-selfish and inconsiderate of other people?

I can't even begin to understand that kind of thinking.

When I speak of "Self-fulfillment" and "Self-achievement" I think in terms of positive things that I would find to truly be fulfilling, not superficial greed and inconsideration toward other people. What would be "fulfilling" about that?

There would be no fulfillment in any that for me, I can assure you of that.

So I have no clue where MsHarmony is coming up with the idea that all those selfish inconsiderate things that she mentioned should be consider to be "fulfilling" or "achievement".

That's totally beyond the scope of anything I would consider to be fulfilling or achievement.