you and jrbogie are just being an ignorant critic, it would have been better for you to stop wasting your time, and stopping making the thread un-necessary long with your irrelevant and insensible comments

You say:


I actually accept this to some degree. However, I see the notion of (only one God), in a different light. I tend to accept the Eastern Mystical view of spirituality that "all is ONE". So in that sense there is (only one God) and we are it.

We are a manifestation of God. There is nothing other than "god". That is all that exists and thus "Tat T'vam Asi" - you are it.

Nothing can be any more monotheistic than pantheism. All is God.

As far as I can see, these spiritual notions became corrupt in the Middle Eastern region as you say:



I certainly agree with this. Which also means that much of the stuff that it contained in those scriptures didn't even come from "god" at all, but rather it came from the "ego" of men.

In the Mediterranean and Middle Eastern region religions became highly competitive. Everyone wanted to demand that "Their scriptures" were the true word of God whilst all others were false.

The Greeks claimed that their monotheistic Zeus was the "God of Gods".

The God of Abraham is said to be monotheistic by proclaiming that no other Gods shalt be placed before him.

The Christians claim that Jesus is the "ONLY WAY TO GOD"

And as you say, the Muslims believe that Mohammad has the "LAST WORD".



Why would a personified Godhead stop communicating to his creation, especially in light of the fact that these messages are constantly being corrupted.

Can you offer an explanation for that?

Does it state a reason why this personified godhead chose to stop inspiring people to convey his thoughts with Mohammad as the "last prophet"?

To be perfectly honest about it this just appears to me to be another cultural ploy to try to trump all other religions by attempting to elevate their scriptures to the state of being the final word of God, etc.

This is the same thing that the Christians did with Jesus. He's the LAST WORD there will be no other!

It's basically the same cultural ploy. Everyone is trying to claim ownership to the "LAST WORD of GOD" .

>The books sent to them, as a means of communication between god and man has been corrupted,

This concept is just an amazement to me.

The Quran was never a "Book" to being with... It was recited as most every Muslim knows... The Words didn't get on paper until about 100 years after Mo's death... Lots of history about this process in the Hadiths

Mo was illiterate. Why his God would send him a BOOK he couldn't read is pure humor.

Truth is: Mo stole his whole Mono-God-Head stuff from the Jews
and pass it off has his own only to charge money at the Kaba when the nomads came by to visit the well and visit their GODS, a pile of rocks.

I would like to cover and explain all your replies, but am kind of busy, and am trying to fall into conclusion of this thread
firstly, i would like you to study these religons (islam, christanity, judaism).. Before asking questions..
Documentation of the quran, started about 10yrs after the death of muhammed... The scripture was documented, after lots of mulisms that memorized the scriptures lost their lifes during the battle of badr... Then umar and some caliphs decided on the documentation on slates, stones e.t.c
muhammed was an illeterate, he is not a traveller nor a merchant, so how did he come in contact with jewish scriptures?... If you say it was from jewish scriptures, then why was jesus and mary mentioned in the quran??... If it was from jewish scriptures, and he was illeterate, how did he do translations from aramaic or hebrew to arabic??

Jesus didnt mention in the bible he was the last prophet nor he was God, there are even some verse in the bible talking about a man that would come after him, from ishmail...

I believe the supreme being has his reasons for making that decision who knows

to my conclusion.. I believe there is an existence of a supreme being.. And he has sent out teachings, philosophies, to different cultures... But most of this teachings has been corrupted by we humans, but some of this teachings and scripture still remain the same, examples are the quran, the book of enoch... And some other very few ones,

Hey join the club, there are a whole slew out there misinterpreting and misusing these man made texts.

That is nothing new to see you believe one over the others.....lol

so how did he come in contact with jewish scriptures?.

Time to read your Hadiths.

I understand what Islam is... Fascism pretending to be a religion.
Who do you think Mo was busy killing in Medina anyway, just bad Muslims?


Volume 9, Book 93, Number 632:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people of the Scripture used to read the Torah in Hebrew and explain it to the Muslims in Arabic. Then Allah's Apostle said, "Do not believe the people of the Scripture, and do not disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever has been revealed...' (3.84)

Have you ever heard of Archimedes?

He lived around 300bc

That is 1000 years before Islam.

Nice try though.

our world is so complex that it would never exist without GOD.they built biosphere 2 and had everything you could possibly want and they couldnt get it to work.matter can only be changed not made.where did our universe come from?do you really believe we came from monkeys?or the sea?if you would get rid of the moon or even move it just imagine how different our life would be.everything is perfect and has been for a long time.evolution says we got taller and less hairy and smarter thats about it.that has to do with nutrition not evolution.

evolution does not suggest we came from monkeys. and because we don't know where the universe came from does not mean it came from god. means we don't know yet.

A Jewish historian and professor wrote a book called "The invention of the Jewish People" and in it he revealed how the characters of Abraham, Joshua, Moses, Jesus etc. never existed and the stories about them never happened. The evidence is extensive and nothing exists to support that King David ever existed.

The three religions that sprung from the myth of King David are Christianity, Islam and Judaism. What should happen to these religions if the characters and the stories that they sprung from never existed, and did not happen?

Fake religions, all of them. Keep looking.

You will find God within.

it was more like a marmasat that we came from...but our DNA matches up about 98% with chimp or orangutang...