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Edited by
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David Brooks' op-ed in yesterday's New York Times is becoming rather famous, by now. He has always been a conservative, but a rational and reasonable one. I think his article is worth reading. There have ben many things that I disagree with him on, but he has always been a fact-based Conservative, a rational Conservative, an honest Conservative and, more than anything, a gentleman.
The Mother of All No-Brainers
By DAVID BROOKS Published: July 4, 2011 . . .Republican leaders have also proved to be effective negotiators. They have been tough and inflexible and forced the Democrats to come to them. The Democrats have agreed to tie budget cuts to the debt ceiling bill. They have agreed not to raise tax rates. They have agreed to a roughly 3-to-1 rate of spending cuts to revenue increases, an astonishing concession. Moreover, many important Democrats are open to a truly large budget deal. President Obama has a strong incentive to reach a deal so he can campaign in 2012 as a moderate. The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, has talked about supporting a debt reduction measure of $3 trillion or even $4 trillion if the Republicans meet him part way. There are Democrats in the White House and elsewhere who would be willing to accept Medicare cuts if the Republicans would be willing to increase revenues. If the Republican Party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. It is being offered the deal of the century: trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases. A normal Republican Party would seize the opportunity to put a long-term limit on the growth of government. It would seize the opportunity to put the country on a sound fiscal footing. It would seize the opportunity to do these things without putting any real crimp in economic growth. The party is not being asked to raise marginal tax rates in a way that might pervert incentives. On the contrary, Republicans are merely being asked to close loopholes and eliminate tax expenditures that are themselves distortionary. This, as I say, is the mother of all no-brainers. But we can have no confidence that the Republicans will seize this opportunity. That’s because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative. The members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise, no matter how sweet the terms. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch in order to cut government by a foot, they will say no. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch to cut government by a yard, they will still say no. The members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars and intellectual authorities. A thousand impartial experts may tell them that a default on the debt would have calamitous effects, far worse than raising tax revenues a bit. But the members of this movement refuse to believe it. The members of this movement have no sense of moral decency. A nation makes a sacred pledge to pay the money back when it borrows money. But the members of this movement talk blandly of default and are willing to stain their nation’s honor. The members of this movement have no economic theory worthy of the name. Economists have identified many factors that contribute to economic growth, ranging from the productivity of the work force to the share of private savings that is available for private investment. Tax levels matter, but they are far from the only or even the most important factor. But to members of this movement, tax levels are everything. Members of this tendency have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. They are willing to cut education and research to preserve tax expenditures. Manufacturing employment is cratering even as output rises, but members of this movement somehow believe such problems can be addressed so long as they continue to worship their idol. Over the past week, Democrats have stopped making concessions. They are coming to the conclusion that if the Republicans are fanatics then they better be fanatics, too. The struggles of the next few weeks are about what sort of party the G.O.P. is — a normal conservative party or an odd protest movement that has separated itself from normal governance, the normal rules of evidence and the ancient habits of our nation. If the debt ceiling talks fail, independents voters will see that Democrats were willing to compromise but Republicans were not. If responsible Republicans don’t take control, independents will conclude that Republican fanaticism caused this default. They will conclude that Republicans are not fit to govern. And they will be right. This article has been revised to reflect the following correction: Correction: July 5, 2011 An earlier version of this column misstated the amount of revenue increases needed in exchange for spending cuts. It is a few hundred billion, not million. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Wed 07/06/11 08:35 AM
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David Brooks' op-ed in yesterday's New York Times is becoming rather famous, by now. He has always been a conservative, but a rational and reasonable one. I think his article is worth reading. There have ben many things that I disagree with him on, but he has always been a fact-based Conservative, a rational Conservative, an honest Conservative and, more than anything, a gentleman. The Mother of All No-Brainers
By DAVID BROOKS Published: July 4, 2011 . . .Republican leaders have also proved to be effective negotiators. They have been tough and inflexible and forced the Democrats to come to them. The Democrats have agreed to tie budget cuts to the debt ceiling bill. They have agreed not to raise tax rates. They have agreed to a roughly 3-to-1 rate of spending cuts to revenue increases, an astonishing concession. Moreover, many important Democrats are open to a truly large budget deal. President Obama has a strong incentive to reach a deal so he can campaign in 2012 as a moderate. The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, has talked about supporting a debt reduction measure of $3 trillion or even $4 trillion if the Republicans meet him part way. There are Democrats in the White House and elsewhere who would be willing to accept Medicare cuts if the Republicans would be willing to increase revenues. If the Republican Party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. It is being offered the deal of the century: trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases. A normal Republican Party would seize the opportunity to put a long-term limit on the growth of government. It would seize the opportunity to put the country on a sound fiscal footing. It would seize the opportunity to do these things without putting any real crimp in economic growth. The party is not being asked to raise marginal tax rates in a way that might pervert incentives. On the contrary, Republicans are merely being asked to close loopholes and eliminate tax expenditures that are themselves distortionary. This, as I say, is the mother of all no-brainers. But we can have no confidence that the Republicans will seize this opportunity. That’s because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative. The members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise, no matter how sweet the terms. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch in order to cut government by a foot, they will say no. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch to cut government by a yard, they will still say no. The members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars and intellectual authorities. A thousand impartial experts may tell them that a default on the debt would have calamitous effects, far worse than raising tax revenues a bit. But the members of this movement refuse to believe it. The members of this movement have no sense of moral decency. A nation makes a sacred pledge to pay the money back when it borrows money. But the members of this movement talk blandly of default and are willing to stain their nation’s honor. The members of this movement have no economic theory worthy of the name. Economists have identified many factors that contribute to economic growth, ranging from the productivity of the work force to the share of private savings that is available for private investment. Tax levels matter, but they are far from the only or even the most important factor. But to members of this movement, tax levels are everything. Members of this tendency have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. They are willing to cut education and research to preserve tax expenditures. Manufacturing employment is cratering even as output rises, but members of this movement somehow believe such problems can be addressed so long as they continue to worship their idol. Over the past week, Democrats have stopped making concessions. They are coming to the conclusion that if the Republicans are fanatics then they better be fanatics, too. The struggles of the next few weeks are about what sort of party the G.O.P. is — a normal conservative party or an odd protest movement that has separated itself from normal governance, the normal rules of evidence and the ancient habits of our nation. If the debt ceiling talks fail, independents voters will see that Democrats were willing to compromise but Republicans were not. If responsible Republicans don’t take control, independents will conclude that Republican fanaticism caused this default. They will conclude that Republicans are not fit to govern. And they will be right. This article has been revised to reflect the following correction: Correction: July 5, 2011 An earlier version of this column misstated the amount of revenue increases needed in exchange for spending cuts. It is a few hundred billion, not million. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html 1. Obama can run as a moderate.. haha 2. The normal republican party would lower taxes and increase spending. That has been the norm and that is why the purge of the big spending RINOs has begun. For the record.. I support increasing income taxes across the board. The suggestion that we can raise taxes on people making more than $250,000 and fix all our problems is the leftist style of Washington economics. As we have seen with the total failure of the "Not so much American recovery and additional $800 billion in debt act" their ideas of how to recover from a debt induced financial collapse were less than stellar. Higher taxes on EVERYONE. Massive Cuts in spending. The gap between revenue and expenditure must be closed. Once the spending is reigned in then you make the decision on lowering rates on targeted tax brackets. |
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1. Obama can run as a moderate.. haha
I'm not sure how that's related to the thread. The normal republican party would lower taxes and increase spending. That has been the norm and that is why the purge of the big spending RINOs has begun.
It's true that the Republican Party has changed dramatically over the last 30 years. I love the "RINO" purging! I truly hope the GOP keeps doing what it's doing. : Once the spending is reigned in then you make the decision on lowering rates on targeted tax brackets.
We've already had lowering taxes on targeted tax brackets. 30 years of lowering taxes for millionaires and billionaires. How's that working out for us? I think we already know what you think should happen. So, you think David Brooks is all wet, right? I don't think he's very enchanted with your ideology either. |
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1. Obama can run as a moderate.. haha
I'm not sure how that's related to the thread. The normal republican party would lower taxes and increase spending. That has been the norm and that is why the purge of the big spending RINOs has begun.
It's true that the Republican Party has changed dramatically over the last 30 years. I love the "RINO" purging! I truly hope the GOP keeps doing what it's doing. : Once the spending is reigned in then you make the decision on lowering rates on targeted tax brackets.
We've already had lowering taxes on targeted tax brackets. 30 years of lowering taxes for millionaires and billionaires. How's that working out for us? I think we already know what you think should happen. So, you think David Brooks is all wet, right? I don't think he's very enchanted with your ideology either. Do you even read what you post? "Moreover, many important Democrats are open to a truly large budget deal. President Obama has a strong incentive to reach a deal so he can campaign in 2012 as a moderate." Brooks refers to normal republicans. I stated that normal republicans have helped cause the fning mess we are in. Lowering taxes and increasing spending is what got us to $14 trillion in debt. Do I have to break that down further for you to understand? So Obama leaves the tax rates where they were and heaps on another $3 or 4 trillion of debt in 2 years. And where has that policy gotten us? No fning where.. As a side note I could care less what Brooks would think of my ideology. We have seen what fiscal incompetence and overspending has brought down. I would like nothing more than to see you and your leftist circle keep defending it. |
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So David Brooks is your kind of republican, eh? This is the icing on the cake.. HAHAHA "Despite all this -- and maybe it's pure defensiveness -- I still believe that in 20 years, no one will doubt that Bush did the right thing. To his enormous credit, the president has been ruthlessly flexible over the past months and absolutely committed to seeing this through." David Brooks April 17, 2004 "There's something about our venture into Iraq that is inspiringly, painfully, embarrassingly and quintessentially American. No other nation would have been hopeful enough to try to evangelize for democracy across the Middle East. No other nation would have been naive enough to do it this badly. No other nation would be adaptable enough to recover from its own innocence and muddle its way to success, as I suspect we are about to do." David Brooks May 18, 2004 "If the trends of the last few months continue, [Former Deputy Defense Secretary, Paul] Wolfowitz will be the subject of fascinating biographies decades from now, while many of his smuggest critics will be forgotten. Those biographies will mention not only his intellectual commitment but also his personal commitment, his years spent learning the languages of the places that concerned him, and the thousands of hours spent listening deferentially to the local heroes who led the causes he supported." David Brooks March 8, 2005 http://www.progressive.org/blogressive_brooks102306 |
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I'm glad you finally found your way back to the topic of the thread. We've discusse all that other junk ad nauseum
Of course Brooks had a perverted opinion about the Bush Administration. He's a Republican. This was all pre-teabagger. Brooks has obviously seen where the neo-con agenda leads when it reaches the cancer stage. It leads to . . . . . You. |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Wed 07/06/11 01:43 PM
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I'm glad you finally found your way back to the topic of the thread. We've discusse all that other junk ad nauseum Of course Brooks had a perverted opinion about the Bush Administration. He's a Republican. This was all pre-teabagger. Brooks has obviously seen where the neo-con agenda leads when it reaches the cancer stage. It leads to . . . . . You. Ha Ha.. As always.. you have nothing. Keep posting your pathetic opinions and I'll keep exposing you as the fraud you are. |
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I'm glad you finally found your way back to the topic of the thread. We've discusse all that other junk ad nauseum Of course Brooks had a perverted opinion about the Bush Administration. He's a Republican. This was all pre-teabagger. Brooks has obviously seen where the neo-con agenda leads when it reaches the cancer stage. It leads to . . . . . You. Ha Ha.. As always.. you have nothing. Keep posting your pathetic opinions and I'll keep exposing you as the fraud you are. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Wed 07/06/11 03:43 PM
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You should look up Gary Johnson. He is running for president.
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/ http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/civil-liberties This link alone makes me proud to support this man. |
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