Topic: Use of technology and the law
Redykeulous's photo
Fri 06/24/11 07:06 AM
New technology serves the government well. They use it to uphold what some would call the diabolical Patriot Act, so labeled for the infringement of liberties it would impose, and state police depend on technology to uphold the law, as when detect speeding motorists and those who would avoid paying a toll.

Individuals have likewise used new technology to break the law and to help law enforcement agencies in their plight to maintain civility.

The question brought up in the following article is whether individuals have the same right as law making (federal) and law enforcement (state) agencies to use technology to protect themselves and others from illegal and unethical behavior enacted in the name of law enforcement?

Please note: the article is not posted here in its entirety; it can be viewed at the url given in the quote.


http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/06/201162114131825860.html

US police smash camera for recording killing

By Chris Arsenault Last Modified: 21 Jun 2011 16:34

A picture may be worth 1,000 words, but Narces Benoit's decision to videotape a shooting by Miami police landed him in jail after officers smashed his cell-phone camera.

It was 4am on May 30 when Benoit and his girlfriend Erika Davis saw officers firing dozens of bullets into a car driven by Raymond Herisse, a suspect who hit a police officer and other vehicles while driving recklessly. Herisse died in the hail of lead, and four bystanders also suffered gunshot wounds, the Miami Herald newspaper reported.

Police noticed the man filming the shooting and an officer jumped into his truck, and put a pistol to his head, Benoit said. The video shows officers crowding around Herisse's vehicle before opening fire, followed by indistinguishable yelling at onlookers, including Benoit, to stop filming.

"My phone was smashed, he stepped on it, handcuffed me," the 35-year-old car stereo technician told CNN.

Despite his phone being destroyed, Benoit was able to save the footage by taking the memory card out of the device and putting it in his mouth before handing it over to police, he said, adding that officers smashed several other cameras in the chaos which followed the shooting.

Legal issues

"There are two questions at play here that need to be separated," said Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at the University of California. "One is: to what extent is it illegal to record officers doing their duties? And secondly, did the police destroy someone's property and evidence?"

"Whether or not the recording was illegal, the police conduct as alleged would be illegal in any case," Volokh told Al Jazeera. In Florida, it is legal to record conversations, unless the conversation is "confidential", which this public altercation likely was not, Volokh said.

Technology 'outpacing' laws

While visual evidence, through government surveillance cameras and individuals' phones, can help make prosecutions, police unions and likeminded groups argue that police officers might second-guess themselves if they know they are being recorded and delay making necessary decisions. There are also arguments about privacy; mainly that conversations between private individuals and security forces should not be recorded by third parties.

And even though Eugene Volokh and other legal experts believe recording public police activities isn't a crime in Florida, that doesn’t mean police are happy about it.

"In the United States, the laws about the recording of police activity vary considerably from state to state. In Massachusetts, for example, existing laws that forbid recording someone without their permission have been extended to prohibit the recording of police. In Illinois, the law now explicitly bans the recording of police," Cascio told Al Jazeera. "I believe that citizens should have the right to record the actions of officials on duty; Citizens can't really fight back when they see police misconduct, their only tool is the ability to document the misbehaviour."

Some experts argue that laws, often designed to deal with audio wiretapping of telephone conversations and now applied to video recordings, are not keeping pace with new technologies. Volokh, however, is not one of those people.

"It isn't a technical question; it might be a question about basic values," Volokh, the legal scholar, said. "How much do you value people’s ability to gather the news and how much you value privacy?"


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Fri 06/24/11 07:14 AM
Well, there is a technology being worked on these days called inductive brain analysis which basically is a machine that reads minds. Although there is no real working models of this idea YET a video game came out that is controlled through neural impulses from your finger. The game system does work. The idea is that they can put a hat on you and read your mind. the problem is that if the brain can be read like that like a computer all your information can be downloaded and analyzed. That means that interrogations would be more invasive and no one could keep a secret "in the chair." Technology like this could be a help in our courts but there are so many philosophical dilemmas involved with this tech.

We are just starting to see the advent of real high tech. What it will lead to is a lot of arguing over whether it is "legal" to utilize said technologies.

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Fri 06/24/11 09:05 AM
There was a highly publicized case here in Maryland where a state policeman pulled over a speeding motorcycle and the guy riding the bike had a camera on top of his helmet.

He faced 16 years in prison for violating the Maryland law on wiretapping. The outcome of the case was somewhat surprising.

Here is an excerpt from the Washington Post:



Charges dismissed against Md. man who taped traffic stop
By Annys Shin

A Harford County Circuit Court judge Monday dismissed wiretapping charges against Anthony Graber, a motorcyclist who was jailed briefly after he taped a Maryland state trooper who stopped him for speeding on I-95. Graber used a camera mounted on his helmet, then posted the video on YouTube.

In April, a few weeks after the traffic stop, Harford County state's attorney Joseph I. Cassilly charged Graber, a staff sergeant in the Maryland Air National Guard and a computer systems engineer, with violating the state's wiretapping law. That law dates back to the 1970s and was originally intended to protect citizens from government intrusions into their privacy. If convicted on all charges, Graber faced up to 16 years in prison.

Judge Emory A. Pitt Jr. had to decide whether police performing their duties have an expectation of privacy in public space. Pitt ruled that police can have no such expectation in their public, on-the-job communications.

Pitt wrote: "Those of us who are public officials and are entrusted with the power of the state are ultimately accountable to the public. When we exercise that power in public fora, we should not expect our actions to be shielded from public observation. 'Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes' ("Who watches the watchmen?”)."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/story-lab/2010/09/wiretapping_charges_dropped_ag.html?hpid=moreheadlines

metalwing's photo
Fri 06/24/11 10:55 AM

There was a highly publicized case here in Maryland where a state policeman pulled over a speeding motorcycle and the guy riding the bike had a camera on top of his helmet.

He faced 16 years in prison for violating the Maryland law on wiretapping. The outcome of the case was somewhat surprising.

Here is an excerpt from the Washington Post:



Charges dismissed against Md. man who taped traffic stop
By Annys Shin

A Harford County Circuit Court judge Monday dismissed wiretapping charges against Anthony Graber, a motorcyclist who was jailed briefly after he taped a Maryland state trooper who stopped him for speeding on I-95. Graber used a camera mounted on his helmet, then posted the video on YouTube.

In April, a few weeks after the traffic stop, Harford County state's attorney Joseph I. Cassilly charged Graber, a staff sergeant in the Maryland Air National Guard and a computer systems engineer, with violating the state's wiretapping law. That law dates back to the 1970s and was originally intended to protect citizens from government intrusions into their privacy. If convicted on all charges, Graber faced up to 16 years in prison.

Judge Emory A. Pitt Jr. had to decide whether police performing their duties have an expectation of privacy in public space. Pitt ruled that police can have no such expectation in their public, on-the-job communications.

Pitt wrote: "Those of us who are public officials and are entrusted with the power of the state are ultimately accountable to the public. When we exercise that power in public fora, we should not expect our actions to be shielded from public observation. 'Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes' ("Who watches the watchmen?”)."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/story-lab/2010/09/wiretapping_charges_dropped_ag.html?hpid=moreheadlines


And that's the way it should be!

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Fri 06/24/11 11:57 AM


The question brought up in the following article is whether individuals have the same right as law making (federal) and law enforcement (state) agencies to use technology to protect themselves and others from illegal and unethical behavior enacted in the name of law enforcement?




confusion here. individuals have rights. law makers and law inforcement agencies have NO rights. rights we are born with and in this country "we [individuals with rights] the people" assign power and authority to various branches of government to do certain things. one of those things is to curtail some rights of the individual that are not what we define as an "inalienable" right. we speek freely but we've no right to drive seventy mph through a school zone. so the answer to the question is no. individuals do not have similar rights as government agencies as government agencies have no rights. on the other hand, individuals do not have the power or authority that government agencies have as "we the people" assigned no power or authority to any individual. we hate the king thing you see.

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 06/25/11 04:55 PM



The question brought up in the following article is whether individuals have the same right as law making (federal) and law enforcement (state) agencies to use technology to protect themselves and others from illegal and unethical behavior enacted in the name of law enforcement?




confusion here. individuals have rights. law makers and law inforcement agencies have NO rights. rights we are born with and in this country "we [individuals with rights] the people" assign power and authority to various branches of government to do certain things. one of those things is to curtail some rights of the individual that are not what we define as an "inalienable" right. we speek freely but we've no right to drive seventy mph through a school zone. so the answer to the question is no. individuals do not have similar rights as government agencies as government agencies have no rights. on the other hand, individuals do not have the power or authority that government agencies have as "we the people" assigned no power or authority to any individual. we hate the king thing you see.


I think there is a misunderstanding. This is not about people taking the law in their own hands, nor is it about people getting out of taking responsibility for a wrong doing.

This is about citizens using technology in ways that will protect the individuals from any wrong-doings of the law. For example, if I have a cell phone that can take pictures and do recordings or if I have a small camera with that capability I should be able to use it to film my interaction with the police, the FBI or any other public transaction/interaction.

It's about using the same kind of technology for personal protection against misconduct as the technology that that authorities can use to condemn an individual.

Example given was a cell phone, but that is the tip of the iceburg when it comes to modern technology.

Do you know that it's legal for police to use heat sensor imaging to monitor people in their home who are under survailance?

Do you know - (from Findlaw.com:)

In the criminal law realm, Fourth Amendment "search and seizure" protections extend to:

• A law enforcement officer's physical apprehension or "seizure" of a person, by way of a stop or arrest; and

• Police searches of places and items in which an individual has a legitimate expectation of privacy -- his or her person, clothing, purse, luggage, vehicle, house, apartment, hotel room, and place of business, to name a few examples.

The Fourth Amendment provides safeguards to individuals during searches and detentions, and prevents unlawfully seized items from being used as evidence in criminal cases. The degree of protection available in a particular case depends on the nature of the detention or arrest, the characteristics of the place searched, and the circumstances under which the search takes place.


But that your cell phone and computers are free game and do not requre a search warrent, they can simply be coniscated.

How much is on our cell phones anymore - Texting, pictures, movies, not mention the personal data of freinds and family who are also fair game via the phone or computer that was TAKEN.

I think that's wrong. However, what I do think is always up for grabs are the public internet displayes that people use. Facebood, Twitter, blog sites. If it can be accessed by the public and you put information out there, I think it's fair game as far as it can be used to condemn criminal activity.

What do you all think about that?

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/25/11 05:25 PM
I think anything posted by an individual in a public forum is fair ground. I think anything an individual is involved in in a public place should be fair ground.

I think what people do on private property should be subject to some legal protection and laws which regulate when and how that protection can be infringed upon.

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 06/25/11 07:31 PM

I think anything posted by an individual in a public forum is fair ground. I think anything an individual is involved in in a public place should be fair ground.

I think what people do on private property should be subject to some legal protection and laws which regulate when and how that protection can be infringed upon.


I agree but for some reason (so far) the courts have not seen the need to include iPhones, mobile/cell phones, travel cameras, personal computers and lap tops as requiring a warrent in order to be ceased and thoroughly reviewed.

With the amound of data and the personal nature of data that appears in such technology, it would seem unconscionable to consider those devises less than a personal journal, or other personal items that currently require a search warrent.

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 06/25/11 07:33 PM
What do you think about Apple, manufacturer of the iPhone inserting technology that would allow detection of your camera use, and automatically kill it when pictures/movies/sound of particular activities are not a desirable thing?

According to Apple, this technology was meant to maintain the creative rights of actors and musicians. The point is to prevent reproductions of paid events without permission or royalties.

The problem however, is how this technology could be used by governments and law enforcement agencies to cover up their own behaviors. The article below is not long but it does contain some embedded video that you might find interesting, particularly the arrest of a woman recording from her own property officers stopping, handcuffing and searching a driver (the woman’s neighbor). Ultimately they let the guy go but gave the woman a heck of a hassle even arresting the woman for taping.

Also in the article is a link to a petition to Steve Jobs asking that he not allow this technology in the iPhones.


I’m thinking, with the Patriot Act in place, budget cuts increasing poverty, and protests gearing up across this country, and others, about the oil pipe-line and the disregard of EPAs authority to act in our best interest, and the activist tensions building in a dozen other areas – AND WITHOUT a broad enough network of trustworthy news media --- We the People, are on our own and this technology in the new watch dog on whom we are coming to depend to uphold our liberty and our human rights.

Please review the article by going to the url provided - What do you think?

NOTE: The article is NOT presented below in its entirety


http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/06/22-8

Published on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 by Save the Internet
Apple's Pre-Emptive Strike Against Free Speech

by Tim Karr

So you think you control your smartphone? Think again.
Late last week reports uncovered a plan by Apple, manufacturer of the iPhone, to patent technology that can detect when people are using their phone cameras and shut them down.

Apple says this technology was intended to stop people from recording video at live concerts, which should worry the creative commons crowd. But a remote "kill switch" has far more sinister applications in the hands of repressive governments. And it further raises concerns about the power new media companies hold over our right to connect and communicate.

Imagine if Apple's device had been available to the Mubarak regime earlier this year, and Egyptian security forces had deployed it around Tahrir Square to disable cameras just before they sent in their thugs to disperse the crowd.

Thousands of people across the Middle East and North Africa have used cellphone cameras to document human rights abuses and share them with millions via social media.

In a February speech, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton credited the viral spread of a cellphone video depicting the shooting death of a young Iranian woman named Neda for bringing world attention to the human rights abuses of the regime.

What would we know of Neda's shocking death had Iranian security forces disabled that camera?

Social Media's Wild West
But here's the rub. The First Amendment and Article 19 of the U.N.'s Declaration on Human Rights don't really apply to the corporations that build these cellphones and run these social networks. Free speech rules don't apply to Silicon Valley.

And while platforms such as YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and Flickr might enable individual expression more than governments do, many governments are at least accountable by law for protecting your right to speech and assembly.

The social networks are only beholden to their terms of service, which in most cases extend them the power to take down your communications "for any or no reason."

A Pre-emptive Strike
What Apple is proposing to develop is worse in many ways. Its cellphone camera kill switch can be used as a pre-emptive strike against free speech.

In its patent application, Apple describes the technology as making it impossible to capture video or pictures at events where cameras and video recorders are prohibited. Your phone determines whether an image includes an infrared beam with encoded data. This data is sent from an emitter that directs the cellphone or a similar device to shut down image capture. Disabling emitters could be mounted on stages, throughout public squares or, conceivably, on police helmets.
Smartphones like the iPhone and Droid are becoming extensions of ourselves. They are not simply tools to connect with friends and family, but a means to document the world around us, engage in political issues and organize with others. They literally put the power of the media in our own hands.

Apple's proposed technology would take that power away.


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Sat 06/25/11 07:58 PM
Police do have a tough job, and they do make mistakes. Like everyone else, they do not enjoy having someone looking over their shoulder while they are working. They do not enjoy having people looking for them to make a mistake. They are no different from anyone else. However, sometimes police do cross the line in a major way. For instance, wounding four by-standers when they opened fire on the car in the article. Granted, the driver was using lethal force the way he was driving, but were just as reckless and added to the harm done.

Without probable cause for an actual violation of the law, these officers performed an illegal search and seizure, unlawful destruction of property, evidence tampering, and unnecessary presentation of lethal force (pointing the firearm at someone who was not posing a lethal threat). This is on top of the recklessness which led to four innocents being injured.

We should be able to document how police do their jobs, whether it is in public or within our own homes. When handled properly, this should lead to better training and discipline. Rather than make excuses and stigmatize it, officials should look for the positive in this. If they do, it will make them better at their own jobs. Public sensitivity training is not the answer. That's simply appeasement by kissing a$$ or cringing with fear. Real training, like evacuating bystanders from a dangerous situation while still monitoring the situation for the safest resolution under circumstances - THAT is responsible, civic-minded behavior that comes with proper training.

As for technological surveillance, that should always require a warrant since it does intrude on privacy. Hence, law enforcement should present sufficient cause to a judge before proceeding. Anything else should be inadmissible in a court of law.

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Sat 06/25/11 08:53 PM
woman arrested by Rochester police in her front yard for filming them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZkFZkejv8&feature=player_embedded