Topic: Queastion On Clinton
boi69's photo
Mon 06/20/11 09:40 AM
When Clinton was president the country was at a surplus higher than any president all the way back to Eisenhowers first year. He did this with house and sentate under republican control.

Our country has been in the red since we impeached Clinton. Did we as a nation make the right choice.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 06/20/11 10:07 AM
HELL NO! Even though Clinton set up surpluses on the books the reality of it is his Deregulation on lending was what set the stage for what we have now. On top of that it was his trade agreements that established the trade deficit we have now with China. And his thing with Monica Lewinski also set the stage for all of the sexual impropriety we have today.

Democrat Wiener sending pictures of his phallus to under aged girls is a crime and has he been punished? And will he BE punished? If I texted a picture of my phallus to a teenage girl I would go to prison.

There is a lot more I could say about Clinton but I will keep it short.

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Mon 06/20/11 12:00 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/20/11 12:02 PM

When Clinton was president the country was at a surplus higher than any president all the way back to Eisenhowers first year. He did this with house and sentate under republican control.

Our country has been in the red since we impeached Clinton. Did we as a nation make the right choice.




before I read the rest of the responses, I will take a stab and check how accurate I am

like the religion thread's

why religion is important/why religion is insignificant topics,,,basically have three premises that all arguments fall into

there are likewise three BASIC tenets to why things do/dont work politically

1. its the republicans(when either the president or the majority of the house or senate are republican)

2. its the democrats(when either the president or the majority of the house or senate are democrats)

3. its government(on the rare occasion that both majorities AND the president are the same party affiliation and noone can point fingers at any party but one)



Im imagining, your answers will fall in one of those three categories,,,,,

boi69's photo
Mon 06/20/11 01:51 PM
opening up trade agreements with China was something many econmics say was ecnomically smart. Solid Cheap exports. The U.S. goverment had been trying to open up aggreements with China for years Clinton's just the man who got it done. It was only when future administrations began to rely to heavily on cheep exports from China did the American dollar started to decrease. Another words we got cheep. Something I dont feel can be blamed on Clinton so harshly.

Also If we didn't open up trade agreements with China we wouldnt be nearly as technologicaly advancaced as we are now. Alot of advances in robotics and electrontics comes out of China more than japan which some might find shocking.

boi69's photo
Mon 06/20/11 01:53 PM

HELL NO! Even though Clinton set up surpluses on the books the reality of it is his Deregulation on lending was what set the stage for what we have now. On top of that it was his trade agreements that established the trade deficit we have now with China. And his thing with Monica Lewinski also set the stage for all of the sexual impropriety we have today.

Democrat Wiener sending pictures of his phallus to under aged girls is a crime and has he been punished? And will he BE punished? If I texted a picture of my phallus to a teenage girl I would go to prison.

There is a lot more I could say about Clinton but I will keep it short.


on the sex schandal it's not like he was the first to do it he was the first to get caught. so hes labeled as the poster boy for sex scandals. A little unfair i think

InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/20/11 02:34 PM

opening up trade agreements with China was something many econmics say was ecnomically smart. Solid Cheap exports. The U.S. goverment had been trying to open up aggreements with China for years Clinton's just the man who got it done. It was only when future administrations began to rely to heavily on cheep exports from China did the American dollar started to decrease. Another words we got cheep. Something I dont feel can be blamed on Clinton so harshly.

Also If we didn't open up trade agreements with China we wouldnt be nearly as technologicaly advancaced as we are now. Alot of advances in robotics and electrontics comes out of China more than japan which some might find shocking.



the whole point was a trade imbalance. when you buy..IE.. IMPORT more than you EXPORT that creates a problem.. ahem.. In the manufacturing sector. You know.. Those good paying jobs that got replaced because we were buying CRAP from overseas.

would you rather have 10 million people working in the manufacturing sector or 10 million people working at WALMART?





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Mon 06/20/11 02:50 PM
Edited by metalwing on Mon 06/20/11 02:51 PM



Also If we didn't open up trade agreements with China we wouldnt be nearly as technologicaly advancaced as we are now. Alot of advances in robotics and electrontics comes out of China more than japan which some might find shocking.


Nothing could be farther from the truth. The US hired China to make goods we invented. China stole every idea and copied every product including the factories to make the products. China would be nowhere without the technology stolen from the US and the theft of this technology is what gave China the ability to produce high tech.

The net was a huge loss for the US, not a gain.

no photo
Mon 06/20/11 03:19 PM
it is his Deregulation on lending was what set the stage for what we have now


These Myths just won't die. The Deregulation on lending was caused by Gramm-Leatch-Bliley (all Republicans) who slipped the amendment into the CRA renewal act in the last days of 1999. The dopey Democrats were so desirous of getting the CRA passed that they were willing to compromise and let it stay.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 06/20/11 04:03 PM

it is his Deregulation on lending was what set the stage for what we have now


These Myths just won't die. The Deregulation on lending was caused by Gramm-Leatch-Bliley (all Republicans) who slipped the amendment into the CRA renewal act in the last days of 1999. The dopey Democrats were so desirous of getting the CRA passed that they were willing to compromise and let it stay.


And thus they now bear the responsibility of their actions. The Democrats were so desperate to get what they wanted they compromised us right into a hole. Nothing mythical about that. Heck, Bush gave us TARP I and Obama gives us TARP II.

Both political parties have their guilt in this. The Democratic Socialist Communazis share more of it though right now.

And all in all it was Clinton who ratified Deregulation. He could have said no like a man.

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Mon 06/20/11 04:56 PM

When Clinton was president the country was at a surplus higher than any president all the way back to Eisenhowers first year. He did this with house and sentate under republican control.

Our country has been in the red since we impeached Clinton. Did we as a nation make the right choice.



That whole surplus thing has been proven wrong on many occasions.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 04:57 PM
Not to mention Obama spent more in his first 90 days in office then president Bush did in 8 years.

boi69's photo
Wed 06/22/11 12:07 PM
Edited by boi69 on Wed 06/22/11 12:14 PM

Not to mention Obama spent more in his first 90 days in office then president Bush did in 8 years.


im not sure if that is mathmaticaly possible. Clinton's last year the national debt was under 6 trillion. At the end of bushe's 8 year it was over 7 trillion. There is no evidence in any goverment database showing the president has spent anywhere near that amount in his first 90 days.

boi69's photo
Wed 06/22/11 12:08 PM


When Clinton was president the country was at a surplus higher than any president all the way back to Eisenhowers first year. He did this with house and sentate under republican control.

Our country has been in the red since we impeached Clinton. Did we as a nation make the right choice.



That whole surplus thing has been proven wrong on many occasions.


where cause i got my sources off of u.s. gov

msharmony's photo
Wed 06/22/11 12:13 PM



When Clinton was president the country was at a surplus higher than any president all the way back to Eisenhowers first year. He did this with house and sentate under republican control.

Our country has been in the red since we impeached Clinton. Did we as a nation make the right choice.



That whole surplus thing has been proven wrong on many occasions.


where cause i got my sources off of u.s. gov


you are inviting a semantic quibble

best to say he was the first in decades to offer up a BALANCED BUDGET,,,that is indisputable FACT

boi69's photo
Wed 06/22/11 12:18 PM




When Clinton was president the country was at a surplus higher than any president all the way back to Eisenhowers first year. He did this with house and sentate under republican control.

Our country has been in the red since we impeached Clinton. Did we as a nation make the right choice.



That whole surplus thing has been proven wrong on many occasions.


where cause i got my sources off of u.s. gov


you are inviting a semantic quibble

best to say he was the first in decades to offer up a BALANCED BUDGET,,,that is indisputable FACT


perhaps your right