Topic: Whitehouse Visitor Log Invisable.
willing2's photo
Fri 04/29/11 05:59 PM
White House Visitor Logs “Riddled with Holes”

Remember when the Obama White House proudly announced it would make records of White House visitors publicly available as a demonstration of the president’s “commitment to transparency?” Well, this announcement may have played well in the lap-dog press, but when you dive into the details, it appears these White House logs are “riddled with holes,” rendering the grand Obama promise into nothing more than political posturing.

According to the Center for Public Integrity:

The [White House visitor] logs are…incomplete for thousands of…visitors to the White House, including lobbyists, government employees, campaign donors, policy experts, and friends of the first family, according to an investigation by the Center for Public Integrity.

The White House website proudly boasts of making available ‘over 1,000,000 records of everyone who's come through the doors of the White House’ via a searchable database.

Yet the Center’s analysis shows that the logs routinely omit or cloud key details about the identity of visitors, who they met with, the nature of the visit, and even includes the names of people who never showed up. These are critical gaps that raise doubts about their historical accuracy and utility in helping the public understand White House operations from social events to meetings on key policy debates.

Now Judicial Watch has been all over the White House visitor logs issue for a very long time. (And we were happy to help the Center for Public Integrity on its story.) In fact, it was Judicial Watch that successfully forced the release of White House visitor logs related to visits by former lobbyist and convicted felon Jack Abramoff to the Bush White House all the way back in 2006.

When Obama assumed the presidency, we continued our aggressive pursuit of White House visitor logs. We believe the American people deserve to know who is coming in and out of the White House and that the law requires this information be made public – in full. We filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the Obama Secret Service, which lawlessly claimed these records were not agency records subject to timely public disclosure. We were told that the visitor logs belonged to the White House, that the logs were subject to the Presidential Records Act, and, therefore, would not be released.

Judicial Watch immediately went public with the Obama administration’s ridiculous position on the release of the visitor logs, and earned quite a bit of press attention on the matter. And that, in turn, earned the attention of White House officials.

And so, in the fall of 2009, JW staff was “invited” to visit with senior White House official Norm Eisen, then-Special Counsel to the President for Ethics and Government (Ethics Czar), to discuss Judicial Watch’s pursuit of the White House visitor logs. The White House encouraged us to publicly praise the Obama administration’s commitment to transparency, saying it would be good for them and good for us. However, the Obama team refused to abandon their legally indefensible contention that Secret Service’s White House visitor logs are not subject to disclosure under FOIA law. So we filed a lawsuit in December 2009 to ask the court to enforce the law.

(This lawsuit, incidentally, is still ongoing. The White House is sticking to its bogus line that there will be “dire national consequences” if these records are released and that they may be kept secret. And we are sticking to our argument that the law and court precedent mandate that they be released.)

As all of this back and forth was going on behind the scenes, the Obama White House publicly announced its new “plan” to make these logs public, which, as we now see, is just another broken Obama promise on transparency.
(Tens of thousands of documents continue to be withheld.)
The Obama White House has no incentive to make sure the White House visitor records are accurate because it thinks it is above the law and does not have to answer to a court about how the records are maintained. That’s where we come in. Our lawsuit is the best hope for ensuring that this abuse of office by President Obama is stopped.

If you want to know about all of the other Obama broken promises on transparency, check out the testimony I recently provided to Congress during Sunshine Week. As you may recall, I testified before committees in the House and Senate and gave the Obama administration a “failing grade” on transparency. And, as I think you’ll see, I was well justified in making this assessment.

Next Tuesday, May 3, I’m scheduled to testify to Congress on this very issue. Judicial Watch has been invited to present testimony to the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the powerful House Energy and Commerce Committee.

The hearing, entitled “White House Transparency, Visitor Logs and Lobbyists,” is another opportunity for your Judicial Watch to educate the American people and the new Tea Party Congress about our important transparency and anti-corruption work.
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Fri 04/29/11 06:40 PM
I'm really glad you posted this. It led me right to this:
What’s not so well-known is the activity of Koch Industries in the trenches in Washington, where a Center for Public Integrity examination of lobbying disclosure files and federal regulatory records reveals a lobbying steamroller for the company’s interests, at times in conflict with its public pose.
The money that Koch (pronounced “coke”) has spent on lobbying in Washington has soared in recent years, from $857,000 in 2004 to $20 million in 2008. The Kochs then spent another $20.5 million over the next two years to influence federal policy, as the company’s lobbyists and officials sought to mold, gut or kill more than 100 prospective bills or regulations.
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=51825&pageid=37&pagename=Page+OneI am willing to accept that the center for Public Integrty is a credible source.

willing2's photo
Fri 04/29/11 07:07 PM
So, where are all the missing entries?

Or will BHO have to be sued to find out?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/29/11 07:16 PM
surprise, surprise...Barry lies again

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/30/11 12:47 AM
does any one actually know or can point out the LAWS requiring the release of names of white house vistors?

I somehow dont think they have to release every name, it would be fairly time consuming and possibly intrusive

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/30/11 12:48 AM

does any one actually know or can point out the LAWS requiring the release of names of white house vistors?

I somehow dont think they have to release every name, it would be fairly time consuming and possibly intrusive




and, does anyone know how they KNOW they are missing? if they know some are missing, does that indicate that there WAS a transparency of who was there,,,,? staying tuned for a more complete picture of the whole truth,,,

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Sat 04/30/11 03:30 AM
Edited by artlo on Sat 04/30/11 04:04 AM
surprise, surprise...Barry lies again
It's just awful, isn't it? Hope Jeff Gannon isn't still sneaking in there all the time.

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Sat 04/30/11 05:09 AM


does any one actually know or can point out the LAWS requiring the release of names of white house vistors?

I somehow dont think they have to release every name, it would be fairly time consuming and possibly intrusive




and, does anyone know how they KNOW they are missing? if they know some are missing, does that indicate that there WAS a transparency of who was there,,,,? staying tuned for a more complete picture of the whole truth,,,


The issue is whether or not the records are maintained by the Secret Service or if they fall under the Presidential Records Act.

There were several lawsuits filed during the Bush years in which the White House argued that the logs fall under the PRA. The judges in 2 cases said that was incorrect and the logs should be released under FOIA. Of course the rulings were appealed and at this particular moment Obama and his cohorts are continuing the appeals process.

Here is something from MSDNC..

Despite President Barack Obama's pledge to introduce a new era of transparency to Washington, and despite two rulings by a federal judge that the records are public, the Secret Service has denied msnbc.com's request for the names of all White House visitors from Jan. 20 to the present. It also denied a narrower request by the nonpartisan watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which sought logs of visits by executives of coal companies.

Updated: CREW says it filed suit Tuesday against the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service. Here's a copy of CREW's complaint.

"We are deeply disappointed," said CREW attorney Anne L. Weismann, "that the Obama administration is following the same anti-transparency policy as the Bush administration when it comes to White House visitor records. Refusing to let the public know who visits the White House is not the action of a pro-transparency, pro-accountability administration."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31373407/





metalwing's photo
Sat 04/30/11 05:47 AM
I think the point here is that Obama made a big campaign promise to open the records and increase transparency and did the exact opposite once he got elected. There is a pattern.

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Sat 04/30/11 06:47 AM
Edited by artlo on Sat 04/30/11 07:17 AM

think the point here is that Obama made a big campaign promise to open the records and increase transparency and did the exact opposite once he got elected. There is a pattern.
Yes, it's really very awful, isn't it?

Updated: CREW says it filed suit Tuesday against the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service. Here's a copy of CREW's complain
I'm a huge fan of CREW. Melaniae Sloan was a frequent guest on Al Franken's show. I will go with anything they say.