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 The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. |
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Its all about the angle, approach, and intent
We are blessed with the ability of freedom of speech and expression....often as not misguided misinterpreted and certainly misinformed.... where you cross boundaries...is one is merely symbolism, and expression..the other interferes with the health, welfare and freedoms of others simply like its perfectly okay to be crazy, until you pose a threat to yourself or others..you are free to go... |
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The goal of Self-Victimization is to control the responses of other people in one of two ways:
Divert attention away from acts of abuse by claiming that the abuse was justified based on another person's bad behavior (typically the victim) Solicit sympathy from others in order to gain their assistance in supporting or enabling the abuse of a victim - also known as proxy recruitment. It is very common for perpetrators of abuse to engage in self-victimization. This serves two purposes: Justification to themselves - as a way of dealing with the cognitive dissonance that results from inconsistencies between the way they treat others and what they believe about themselves. Justification to others - as a way of escaping harsh judgment or condemnation they may fear from people whom they wish to please or impress. http://www.outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/SelfVictimization.html |
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The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. TJN is write we As Americans sometimes are to quick to change things just because it offends someone. Art has always been controversial cause its all about interpretation and if some1 is offended that's how things go bad, but you know what it's not illegal to make something offensive. It's illegal to slander and just say something that's not true but an opinion or point of view is different. Art and controversy go hand in hand. Thats the way it always is, thats the way it always has been, and thats the way it always will be. |
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The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. TJN is write we As Americans sometimes are to quick to change things just because it offends someone. Art has always been controversial cause its all about interpretation and if some1 is offended that's how things go bad, but you know what it's not illegal to make something offensive. It's illegal to slander and just say something that's not true but an opinion or point of view is different. Art and controversy go hand in hand. Thats the way it always is, thats the way it always has been, and thats the way it always will be. yes. I think art and controversy do go hand in hand, I dont quite get the connection to hate crimes though as that is a different and more specific thing,, |
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The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. TJN is write we As Americans sometimes are to quick to change things just because it offends someone. Art has always been controversial cause its all about interpretation and if some1 is offended that's how things go bad, but you know what it's not illegal to make something offensive. It's illegal to slander and just say something that's not true but an opinion or point of view is different. Art and controversy go hand in hand. Thats the way it always is, thats the way it always has been, and thats the way it always will be. yes. I think art and controversy do go hand in hand, I dont quite get the connection to hate crimes though as that is a different and more specific thing,, Hate crime is kinda a silly concept to not very many people like the person thay commit a crime agaisnt. A crime is a crime is a crime. The only way are can be a hate crime is through strong malice towards slander, libel or defamation of character. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 04/28/11 12:06 PM
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The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. TJN is write we As Americans sometimes are to quick to change things just because it offends someone. Art has always been controversial cause its all about interpretation and if some1 is offended that's how things go bad, but you know what it's not illegal to make something offensive. It's illegal to slander and just say something that's not true but an opinion or point of view is different. Art and controversy go hand in hand. Thats the way it always is, thats the way it always has been, and thats the way it always will be. yes. I think art and controversy do go hand in hand, I dont quite get the connection to hate crimes though as that is a different and more specific thing,, Hate crime is kinda a silly concept to not very many people like the person thay commit a crime agaisnt. A crime is a crime is a crime. The only way are can be a hate crime is through strong malice towards slander, libel or defamation of character. I am kind of torn myself. All violent crime, like all sin, should be considered of equal significance,,,however, with the history of this country (and of the world for that matter), I understand the desire to pay special attention to violence which stems from mere bigotry instead of personal interactions,,,, its kind of like making ano littering law. One person littering doesnt make significant impact, but if one can and enough follow it becomes a mess similar are crimes against people for the 'group' they belong to, its one thing, if someone doesnt like what I have said (which I have control over), or if they dont like what I Wore (Which I have control over), or if they dont like what I did (Which I have control over),that attack should be criminal because it infringed upon my rights to speak, dress, and act how I please ,,but its another standard to be attacked merely for how we are BORN(which we dont have control over), like being a certain race or sex etc,, that act infringes on my very right to EXIST,,which I Can understand being seen as particularly heinous,, in the way that an assault against a child is considered(in general) more heinous than an assault on an adult if its permitted or accepted by one and enough become desensitive to it,,,it can escalate with a significant impact upon society,,, |
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The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. TJN is write we As Americans sometimes are to quick to change things just because it offends someone. Art has always been controversial cause its all about interpretation and if some1 is offended that's how things go bad, but you know what it's not illegal to make something offensive. It's illegal to slander and just say something that's not true but an opinion or point of view is different. Art and controversy go hand in hand. Thats the way it always is, thats the way it always has been, and thats the way it always will be. yes. I think art and controversy do go hand in hand, I dont quite get the connection to hate crimes though as that is a different and more specific thing,, Hate crime is kinda a silly concept to not very many people like the person thay commit a crime agaisnt. A crime is a crime is a crime. The only way are can be a hate crime is through strong malice towards slander, libel or defamation of character. I am kind of torn myself. All violent crime, like all sin, should be considered of equal significance,,,however, with the history of this country (and of the world for that matter), I understand the desire to pay special attention to violence which stems from mere bigotry instead of personal interactions,,,, its kind of like making ano littering law. One person littering doesnt make significant impact, but if one can and enough follow it becomes a mess similar are crimes against people for the 'group' they belong to, its one thing, if someone doesnt like what I have said (which I have control over), or if they dont like what I Wore (Which I have control over), or if they dont like what I did (Which I have control over),that attack should be criminal because it infringed upon my rights to speak, dress, and act how I please ,,but its another standard to be attacked merely for how we are BORN(which we dont have control over), like being a certain race or sex etc,, that act infringes on my very right to EXIST,,which I Can understand being seen as particularly heinous,, in the way that an assault against a child is considered(in general) more heinous than an assault on an adult if its permitted or accepted by one and enough become desensitive to it,,,it can escalate with a significant impact upon society,,, The prob is it all depends on the interpretation of who is charging the person and or organization. All people should be created equally in this nation. Criminals should all be charged based on the crimes they commit not the intent. Cause all criminal intent is some form of hate. |
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The image seems to be true. I don't understand how one is accepted, yet the other will cause wars. TJN is write we As Americans sometimes are to quick to change things just because it offends someone. Art has always been controversial cause its all about interpretation and if some1 is offended that's how things go bad, but you know what it's not illegal to make something offensive. It's illegal to slander and just say something that's not true but an opinion or point of view is different. Art and controversy go hand in hand. Thats the way it always is, thats the way it always has been, and thats the way it always will be. yes. I think art and controversy do go hand in hand, I dont quite get the connection to hate crimes though as that is a different and more specific thing,, Hate crime is kinda a silly concept to not very many people like the person thay commit a crime agaisnt. A crime is a crime is a crime. The only way are can be a hate crime is through strong malice towards slander, libel or defamation of character. I am kind of torn myself. All violent crime, like all sin, should be considered of equal significance,,,however, with the history of this country (and of the world for that matter), I understand the desire to pay special attention to violence which stems from mere bigotry instead of personal interactions,,,, its kind of like making ano littering law. One person littering doesnt make significant impact, but if one can and enough follow it becomes a mess similar are crimes against people for the 'group' they belong to, its one thing, if someone doesnt like what I have said (which I have control over), or if they dont like what I Wore (Which I have control over), or if they dont like what I did (Which I have control over),that attack should be criminal because it infringed upon my rights to speak, dress, and act how I please ,,but its another standard to be attacked merely for how we are BORN(which we dont have control over), like being a certain race or sex etc,, that act infringes on my very right to EXIST,,which I Can understand being seen as particularly heinous,, in the way that an assault against a child is considered(in general) more heinous than an assault on an adult if its permitted or accepted by one and enough become desensitive to it,,,it can escalate with a significant impact upon society,,, The prob is it all depends on the interpretation of who is charging the person and or organization. All people should be created equally in this nation. Criminals should all be charged based on the crimes they commit not the intent. Cause all criminal intent is some form of hate. thats the case in the justice system in all cases, it depends upon interpretation and the judge and the jury and the police,,, but I think that the laws are written as a sort of preventive measure to avoid signficant social impacts, we cant have people running around seducing 'children', so the very thing that makes statuatory rape a crime instead of just consentual sex is how we view children in their role in society as a whole the thing that differentiates self defense from physical assult is the former has the INTENT of protecting life that the latter does not I think the laws written for hate crimes are similar to those written regarding children, its trying to prevent a greater impact on society at large by not allowing specific groups to be targeted and isolated from being a part of society |
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it is perception... while something are meaningless to some people, it is a big deal to others... like a pic of the profit mohammed, while to anyone other than muslims don't consider it bad, the muslims will kill over it...everyone has a different perception of what is good and bad.
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it is perception... while something are meaningless to some people, it is a big deal to others... like a pic of the profit mohammed, while to anyone other than muslims don't consider it bad, the muslims will kill over it...everyone has a different perception of what is good and bad. true some will kill over a picture, others will maim over a flag,,,,its the different perceptions which make us interesting |
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