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Topic: Are YOU in Danger?
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 04/27/11 12:29 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 04/27/11 12:31 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Wed 04/27/11 12:33 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this???

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 04/27/11 12:41 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this??? it took me about a year to get Cowboy to understand that concept ...you're next

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 04/27/11 12:41 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 04/27/11 12:42 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God So again, your creation is you and or is a part of you. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one with God because they are created by God.

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Wed 04/27/11 12:49 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this??? it took me about a year to get Cowboy to understand that concept ...you're next sorry, I believe in the Trinity 100%. There is nothing you can say or do that will shake that faith. It would be just as futile as it would be for me to try to convert you to being a Christian. Actually for me, it really isn't faith. The way I see it, it is more of a fact. Kind of like - "duh, how do you not know this?"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 04/27/11 12:51 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God So again, your creation is you and or is a part of you. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one with God because they are created by God. Cowboy...name one thing that wasn't created by God

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 04/27/11 12:55 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this??? it took me about a year to get Cowboy to understand that concept ...you're next sorry, I believe in the Trinity 100%. There is nothing you can say or do that will shake that faith. It would be just as futile as it would be for me to try to convert you to being a Christian. Actually for me, it really isn't faith. The way I see it, it is more of a fact. Kind of like - "duh, how do you not know this?" it should be more like "DUH"..why would you believe this ....and that is the purpose of faith

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 04/27/11 12:56 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God So again, your creation is you and or is a part of you. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one with God because they are created by God. Cowboy...name one thing that wasn't created by God All things were created by God. There is not one thing that wasn't created by God.

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Wed 04/27/11 12:57 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this??? it took me about a year to get Cowboy to understand that concept ...you're next sorry, I believe in the Trinity 100%. There is nothing you can say or do that will shake that faith. It would be just as futile as it would be for me to try to convert you to being a Christian. Actually for me, it really isn't faith. The way I see it, it is more of a fact. Kind of like - "duh, how do you not know this?" it should be more like "DUH"..why would you believe this ....and that is the purpose of faith You can have your opinion. I have my faith and knowledge.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 04/27/11 12:59 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God So again, your creation is you and or is a part of you. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one with God because they are created by God. Cowboy...name one thing that wasn't created by God All things were created by God. There is not one thing that wasn't created by God. so wouldn't that make all creation part of God

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 04/27/11 01:01 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this??? it took me about a year to get Cowboy to understand that concept ...you're next sorry, I believe in the Trinity 100%. There is nothing you can say or do that will shake that faith. It would be just as futile as it would be for me to try to convert you to being a Christian. Actually for me, it really isn't faith. The way I see it, it is more of a fact. Kind of like - "duh, how do you not know this?" it should be more like "DUH"..why would you believe this ....and that is the purpose of faith You can have your opinion. I have my faith and knowledge. knowledge doesn't require faith and faith requires no knowledge

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 04/27/11 01:01 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God So again, your creation is you and or is a part of you. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one with God because they are created by God. Cowboy...name one thing that wasn't created by God All things were created by God. There is not one thing that wasn't created by God. so wouldn't that make all creation part of God Yes we are all part of God.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Wed 04/27/11 01:04 PM Edited by Kleisto on Wed 04/27/11 01:05 PM
What you been smoking. Budhism teachs that there is but one all. Christianity teaches that futility is the only reward for life... (proof... all are evil... Heaven is achieved only by the pure in christ... yet mankind is evil and falls short.) The christian 'salvation' is not a free gift from god... One must first 'purchase' the 'package'... Then the 'free' gift is given. This. It amazes me how some people cannot see this. If you have to do something to get a "free" gift, then it really is not free. It can't be by definition. It is a free gift. Whether or not you accept the gift offered is the question. That is Free Will. There is nothing you have to "do" to earn it. But I guess you could argue that being required to believe is something you have to do. Well, that is the case. Because if you do accept the gift you do believe. They are hand in hand. Not a requirement, just a simple fact. Kind of like when you buy a car, you acknowledge you will buy the gas that you need as well. They are connected. It is not possible to accept His Gift without believing. It is possible to believe and not accept it though... Ok let's say for the hell of it this was the case. Even then you're STILL wrong. Reason being there are other requirements put on you besides just believing. It is not just faith, you have to follow rules and commandments. Hardly free when you have to do all those things in addition to accepting it. In fact, your own book contradicts itself! It says in one part that Jesus says whoever shall believe in him shall have eternal life, but then in another part states faith without works is dead. Which is it? It can't be both.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 04/27/11 01:06 PM
What you been smoking. Budhism teachs that there is but one all. Christianity teaches that futility is the only reward for life... (proof... all are evil... Heaven is achieved only by the pure in christ... yet mankind is evil and falls short.) The christian 'salvation' is not a free gift from god... One must first 'purchase' the 'package'... Then the 'free' gift is given. There is no smoking of anything lol. And not necessarily all are evil. All are born with sin, yes. That is where Jesus comes into play, he is the one whom will judge us, thus he is the one whom offers forgiveness of sins. It is a free gift, nothing you can do can BUY you into heaven. It is a free gift offered by our lord Jesus Christ. We understand that this is your faith-based belief Cowboy. But many of us simply aren't interesting in placing our faith in such a hateful demented and sick story. People are born with sin? That would be a dastardly dirty trick by their creator right there! I personally prefer to place my faith in the idea that those ancient Hebrews fables have no more merit than Greek Mythology. Why should I want to place my faith in an idea of a devious unrighteous God who creates new souls that are already with sin at birth? Can you answer me that? You've got a picture of a Creator here who is either drastically restricted in what he can do, or knowingly deceitful. There can be no other explanation. He either can't help what he does, in which case he is powerless, or does it on purpose in which case he is deceitful. So which is it Cowboy? Is the God you place your faith in powerless, or purposefully evil?

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Wed 04/27/11 01:07 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Cowboy...so let's get it on record..are you stating that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not God ...but only creations? Your creation is you. 1. your child, it is a part of you. 2. the work you do in your life. This work done resembles who you are. It shows what type of person you are. It shows who you are. ect ect. An ugly, horrible, totally disgusting person does not make beautiful poetry, doesn't make beautiful paintings, ect. Have you ever noticed or even paid attention to the type of people that do certain things? Are painters of beautiful nature scenery abrasive? Are they crude? Are they wild and crazy? Or are they calm and collected? Nice and polite? Cowboy...everything in creation is the creation of God...so again...is Jesus and the holy ghost "God" or are they "creations" of God So again, your creation is you and or is a part of you. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one with God because they are created by God. Cowboy...name one thing that wasn't created by God All things were created by God. There is not one thing that wasn't created by God. Sure there is... God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 04/27/11 01:07 PM
What you been smoking. Budhism teachs that there is but one all. Christianity teaches that futility is the only reward for life... (proof... all are evil... Heaven is achieved only by the pure in christ... yet mankind is evil and falls short.) The christian 'salvation' is not a free gift from god... One must first 'purchase' the 'package'... Then the 'free' gift is given. This. It amazes me how some people cannot see this. If you have to do something to get a "free" gift, then it really is not free. It can't be by definition. It is a free gift. Whether or not you accept the gift offered is the question. That is Free Will. There is nothing you have to "do" to earn it. But I guess you could argue that being required to believe is something you have to do. Well, that is the case. Because if you do accept the gift you do believe. They are hand in hand. Not a requirement, just a simple fact. Kind of like when you buy a car, you acknowledge you will buy the gas that you need as well. They are connected. It is not possible to accept His Gift without believing. It is possible to believe and not accept it though... Ok let's say for the hell of it this was the case. Even then you're STILL wrong. Reason being there are other requirements put on you besides just believing. It is not just faith, you have to follow rules and commandments. Hardly free when you have to do all those things in addition to accepting it. In fact, your own book contradicts itself! It says in one part that Jesus says whoever shall believe in him shall have eternal life, but then in another part states faith without works is dead. Which is it? It can't be both. But it can be both. Your works shows your faith. If one doesn't have faith it will show through on their works, if one has faith it will show through on their works.

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Wed 04/27/11 01:08 PM
There is 1 SUPREME being though. Our father which art in heaven is in control of it all. There's not say "mother nature" and "father time" ect or any other example you wish to use. There is God our father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit. But they are all under the command of God our father. They are all his creations. They are not equal or greater. So no, not the same. Cowboy...."The Highlander" said it best..."There Can Only Be But One" ...so pick one ...which one is the God...Yahweh, Jesus or The Holy Ghost Yes there can only be but one, God our father is the one. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are creations of God. Do you really believe this??? it took me about a year to get Cowboy to understand that concept ...you're next sorry, I believe in the Trinity 100%. There is nothing you can say or do that will shake that faith. It would be just as futile as it would be for me to try to convert you to being a Christian. Actually for me, it really isn't faith. The way I see it, it is more of a fact. Kind of like - "duh, how do you not know this?" it should be more like "DUH"..why would you believe this ....and that is the purpose of faith You can have your opinion. I have my faith and knowledge. knowledge doesn't require faith and faith requires no knowledge Right. What's your point? My faith is based on my knowledge...

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 04/27/11 01:11 PM
Cowboy wrote: Yes we are all part of God. Well, there you go Cowboy. No one can be condemned then unless God condemns part of himself. If you're going to claim that we are all facets of God, then you really need to consider a Pantheistic spiritual philosophy because the Zeus-like jealous God of the Bible can never be twisted into Pantheism. Try as you will, but you can't make it work.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 04/27/11 01:12 PM
What you been smoking. Budhism teachs that there is but one all. Christianity teaches that futility is the only reward for life... (proof... all are evil... Heaven is achieved only by the pure in christ... yet mankind is evil and falls short.) The christian 'salvation' is not a free gift from god... One must first 'purchase' the 'package'... Then the 'free' gift is given. There is no smoking of anything lol. And not necessarily all are evil. All are born with sin, yes. That is where Jesus comes into play, he is the one whom will judge us, thus he is the one whom offers forgiveness of sins. It is a free gift, nothing you can do can BUY you into heaven. It is a free gift offered by our lord Jesus Christ. We understand that this is your faith-based belief Cowboy. But many of us simply aren't interesting in placing our faith in such a hateful demented and sick story. People are born with sin? That would be a dastardly dirty trick by their creator right there! I personally prefer to place my faith in the idea that those ancient Hebrews fables have no more merit than Greek Mythology. Why should I want to place my faith in an idea of a devious unrighteous God who creates new souls that are already with sin at birth? Can you answer me that? You've got a picture of a Creator here who is either drastically restricted in what he can do, or knowingly deceitful. There can be no other explanation. He either can't help what he does, in which case he is powerless, or does it on purpose in which case he is deceitful. So which is it Cowboy? Is the God you place your faith in powerless, or purposefully evil? It is not God's fault one is born with sin. It is their descendants fault. It is the one's before you who is to blame. If no one was to have sinned, no one would be born with sin, thus no one would ever sin. That sin goes away if you ask for forgiveness of it, yes. But till then that sin carries on. And God is restricted in no way, it is not God's fault or anything to do with God because one has sinned. Sinning is going against God's will, so therefore couldn't possibly be God's fault.