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Rather than saying no means no, you are pointing out that you agree that no doesn't always mean no.
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msharmony
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Rather than saying no means no, you are pointing out that you agree that no doesn't always mean no. but it doesnt, the word 'no' does not always mean no when someone says it anymore than the word 'love' really means love when someone professes it its just words, they are only as meaningful as their context and their tone,,, I would advise men, for legal purposes, to always assume no means no though just like I would advise a woman, for legal purposes, not to accept money for sex but indeed, a woman struggling and fighting has a different context when she says NO than a woman ripping a mans clothes off and whispering no over and over same word, different context, and usually body language prevails,, |
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?"
The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. |
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I agree, ask the woman involved. Not all women mean no when they say no, good to know a woman well enough to know what she means before you have sex with her,,,,,,another good rule of thumb but its hard to know her well enough if you only met her earlier in a bar, or last week at a store,,,etc,,,, |
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Keep in mind though, women need to watch their actions sometimes. Granted men have no excuse and blaming a victim for a crime is wrong BUT, never ever dangle meat in front of a hungry dog and not expect it to snap at it. Now women who intentionally act sexy, dress provocatively, and toss mixed signals around get what they deserve. No I am not being a bastard here. I am being the devil's advocate. When a woman is dressing to show off I call that advertising. Some women unfairly get called sluts when they are not but others act like it, pretenda-sluts like I call those women. That leads to the worst kind of women there is out there, the bone cutter. That is a woman who will get her cloths off, get a man on top of her and just as he is about to head for home base she suddenly changes her mind. I hate bone cutters and tail draggers which are women who dress provocatively and hate men. Sex is a messed up game and the rules of conduct are ambiguous. My advice to a woman not intending to have sex, don't put yourself in a position to get taken if you don't want to be taken. That unto itself is a whole chapter of the rules of sexual conduct. Now back to the case at hand, if a woman gets into a bed with a man in her underwear she is asking to get sex forced on her. it might not be right BUT we are programmed to reproduce and that programming can make sane rational people turn into beasts! There is a huge difference if a man invades a woman's house and rapes her vs. a woman who puts herself in a compromising situation intentionally. And I also see a huge difference in what people think date rape is vs. what date rape really is. Again real date rape is when she is not allowing herself to be put into a compromising situation and she is forcefully taken against her will. Simple rule of thumb, you cannot pull the trigger of a gun and take it back after the fact you shot it. If women are so interested in avoiding questionable situations follow these old grandpa rules, both feet on the floor, cloths on, legs shut. And for added measure a minimum of 12 inches air space between both parties at all times. Strip down and get alone with a guy all bets are off at that point. I am sick and tired of women thinking that we men are all rapists or that we are not sympathetic to the plight of women. I am just sick and tired of women who put themselves in situations and want us to feel sorry for them. I have ran across a bone cutter. I have ran across tail draggers. Both are a waste of my time. Both taught me that women can play some fuqued up and cold games on men. Some men are nothing more than beasts. But not all of us are. Likewise not all women are honorable. And the legal practice of attacking the victim of any crime is wrong and any attorney trying that should be disbarred! But likewise anyone claiming to be a victim and attempting to victimize someone unjustly also sucks! Women need to reeducate themselves about the rules of dating conduct rather than put it all off on us men! Prevention is better than clean up! So, a woman wearing a low cut shirt or a short skirt is asking for it? If a man can't control himself and rapes her, she got what she deserved? And who was saying all men are rapists? No, I mean and I am going to take your sentence and add to it, if a woman is wearing a low cut shirt or a short skirt, hanging on a guy acting VERY familiar with him or others, or to compound this is acting extremely flirty, or to go one step further, acting like a sex starved vixen she is asking for it. NUFF SAID! Nothing wrong or inviting for a woman to dress nice and show of a little. It is the conduct associated with it that makes or breaks my argument. Personally I prefer clothing off when I have sex. Gets in the way of me running my hands on every inch of my lover. Look. I had a GF a few years back that loved short dresses. I knew what she meant when she had her panties in her hand looking at me with a cheesy grin on her face. I mean I did not need to be hit in the face with a sign to know what she had in mind. It meant, "Lets find somewhere where we won't get caught, NOW!" That is very different from being out getting lunch with a woman I met for the second or third time wearing a short dress. Date or otherwise I am watching for signals too. I also like to keep it civil on a date. There are old school rules I was taught to go by. Now if that same woman were draping herself on me what the hell should I think? Like I said again it is the conduct behind the clothing. Hell, a woman draping herself on me wearing blue jeans would have me wanting to find ways of getting her out of them including teleportation! One thing women had better get used to becasue your mommies evidently never taught you this, and your daddies never had the ability to have frank discussions with you, and this is a lesson from Dog School University: Ahem (clearing my fingers) Men take physical contact as interest, ANY KIND OF PHYSICAL CONTACT save one form, A hand shake. Putting your hands on a guy is like waving a green flag in his face. One way to protect yourself on a date. Keep his hands off of you. Then there is no implied interest in sex at least. Likewise keep your hands off of him! That is a green flag to men! I could care less what bullshitte book or professional says otherwise. Humans are animals! There is what OUR society expects and there is the "nature of the beast." Dog School University lesson number two: Almost all men assume if they get a woman alone in her house (invited in) or in his house then that is the go ahead to make a move. MOST rapes statistically occur on or in familiar ground! Likewise more often than not the victim knows her assailant. One more time, prevention is better. Tazers and pepper spray are usually legal. There are other things you can carry that make really wicked weapons. Hatpins for one are lethal when used right. Likewise I have a hard time with "frail" and "weak" women. It isn't a matter of being able to bench press 900 pounds. It is at least being able to help lift a couch. That is more than most people can do! Also it helps to understand the animal you are playing with. If you are assuming that the laws of attraction are not the same as they are with dogs you are sadly mistaking yourself. Why do you think so many women accuse us men of being dogs? We are! Humans are not THAT evolved! So what we have societies. So do Dolphins and Dolphins are real bastards. The males will form rape gangs and single out female dolphins who have to be rescued from all those horney males by other females. That is their norm. With most other apes except Bonobos it is the strongest get to have sex, the rest don't. Their choices are pinned on what male is the strongest. With Bobnobos there is no rape. They are just sex mongers! Their culture and social structure revolves completely around sex. Humans are the only ones who make rules. Past that we are still instinctual driven animals too. Like I said, women can send mixed signals and invite trouble doing so! I am not advocating rape in any way. Its just that women are not educated properly about dealing with men. And that leads to this topical situation. |
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. |
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. Right on! Sometimes a girl has to get the point across by hitting a guy where he thinks the most. That usually helps disengage the smaller head so that the larger one can think! But a two octave rise in voice pitch is usual for a couple of days. Most guys want a girl wrapped around his finger but fear a woman with a good grip on his balls! 
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. 
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I agree, ask the woman involved. Not all women mean no when they say no, good to know a woman well enough to know what she means before you have sex with her,,,,,,another good rule of thumb but its hard to know her well enough if you only met her earlier in a bar, or last week at a store,,,etc,,,, Unfortunately, even women agreeing that no doesn't always mean no gives men mixed signals. If a guy I was with didn't take no as no because some other girl told him it didn't always mean no, there would be a big problem. |
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. Right on! Sometimes a girl has to get the point across by hitting a guy where he thinks the most. That usually helps disengage the smaller head so that the larger one can think! But a two octave rise in voice pitch is usual for a couple of days. Most guys want a girl wrapped around his finger but fear a woman with a good grip on his balls! Yeah, guess my kickboxing is paying off. 
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. hmmm...and the right hook to the temple after you kick a man in the nuts?...how might you manage that? If a situation has progressed to having to resort to violence, then chances are the outcome is not going to be pretty. Have you ever been in the situation where no was not accepted? There is NEVER any reason for a woman to be forced into sex, irrespective of what she wears, what she says, how she acts, or even if she says STOP halfway through the act. The law is very clear here, in Australia...and how a woman does or does not dress is not even permissable in court. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 04/25/11 10:59 PM
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. hmmm...and the right hook to the temple after you kick a man in the nuts?...how might you manage that? If a situation has progressed to having to resort to violence, then chances are the outcome is not going to be pretty. Have you ever been in the situation where no was not accepted? There is NEVER any reason for a woman to be forced into sex, irrespective of what she wears, what she says, how she acts, or even if she says STOP halfway through the act. The law is very clear here, in Australia...and how a woman does or does not dress is not even permissable in court. I was in a situation where no wasnt enough, but the obvious giveway that it was forced is that I tried to LEAVE and was physically restrained from doing so and threatened had I said no but then gone on to kiss and fondle , that would be a mixed signal that I couldnt demonize a man for misunderstanding the problem is in defining 'forced' , I feel for men who are with women who send mixed signals about what their 'will' is who do the undressing, the fondling , and the whole nine with their BODIES but accuse the man of RAPE because his mind didnt engage in what their mouth was saying heck, couples who love each other sometimes tune each other out, I can imagine during a sexual contact that its easy for people not to be paying nearly as much attention to words as to actions and reciprocation... |
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Perhaps you should speak for yourself, rather than all women, then and I'll do the same. When I say no, I mean no. I don't want some guy saying "but, msharmony said no doesn't always mean no, so why should it mean no this time?" The best thing to do is always go with no means no. If you have a question about what the woman really means, ask her. I am with you no means no but a kick in the family jewels would make my point of no quite final. hmmm...and the right hook to the temple after you kick a man in the nuts?...how might you manage that? If a situation has progressed to having to resort to violence, then chances are the outcome is not going to be pretty. Have you ever been in the situation where no was not accepted? There is NEVER any reason for a woman to be forced into sex, irrespective of what she wears, what she says, how she acts, or even if she says STOP halfway through the act. The law is very clear here, in Australia...and how a woman does or does not dress is not even permissable in court. Agreed that there is never any reason for a woman to be forced into sex. Only once was I in that situation where no was not accepted. Ironically; it was about a year after I finished my military police training. I am sure you can guess the outcome of that situation.
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Navygirl, have you considered learning Ju Jitsu? Frankly 9/10ths of all fights degenerate to on the ground scuffles. That is where Gracie Ju Jitsu was tailored for. There are a number of systems tailored to hand to hand ground scraps. Kickboxing is fine and all when you can stay on your feet but when you get taken to the ground, then what?
Well, submission holds and eye gouging count! Still, any woman who can fight, trains for it, and isn't afraid to dust off her knuckles on some bad boy in need of a life lesson is totally respectable to me.  These respect knuckles are for you! |
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If you were to study Aikido, JuJutsu and Ninpo you would be pretty hard to touch! |
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Do not underestimate Capoera at all! That style is something only more advanced fighters learn! it is an all around style that emphasizes the one hit "kill," or stun or whatever you want to call it. It is a kind of street fighting but it is down and dirty!
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Edited by
navygirl
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Wed 04/27/11 09:25 AM
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Navygirl, have you considered learning Ju Jitsu? Frankly 9/10ths of all fights degenerate to on the ground scuffles. That is where Gracie Ju Jitsu was tailored for. There are a number of systems tailored to hand to hand ground scraps. Kickboxing is fine and all when you can stay on your feet but when you get taken to the ground, then what? Well, submission holds and eye gouging count! Still, any woman who can fight, trains for it, and isn't afraid to dust off her knuckles on some bad boy in need of a life lesson is totally respectable to me. These respect knuckles are for you! Actually I took Ju Jitsu years ago before I took Karate; but it wouldn't hurt to take it again as a refresher. In the military we also took what was called unarmed combat. Thanks for the tip about Ju Jitsu Andy and the resepct knuckles. 
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Navygirl, have you considered learning Ju Jitsu? Frankly 9/10ths of all fights degenerate to on the ground scuffles. That is where Gracie Ju Jitsu was tailored for. There are a number of systems tailored to hand to hand ground scraps. Kickboxing is fine and all when you can stay on your feet but when you get taken to the ground, then what? Well, submission holds and eye gouging count! Still, any woman who can fight, trains for it, and isn't afraid to dust off her knuckles on some bad boy in need of a life lesson is totally respectable to me. These respect knuckles are for you! Actually I took Ju Jitsu years ago before I took Karate; but it wouldn't hurt to take it again as a refresher. In the military we also took what was called unarmed combat. Thanks for the tip about Ju Jitsu Andy and the resepct knuckles. I personally  kick azz women!
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Navygirl, have you considered learning Ju Jitsu? Frankly 9/10ths of all fights degenerate to on the ground scuffles. That is where Gracie Ju Jitsu was tailored for. There are a number of systems tailored to hand to hand ground scraps. Kickboxing is fine and all when you can stay on your feet but when you get taken to the ground, then what? Well, submission holds and eye gouging count! Still, any woman who can fight, trains for it, and isn't afraid to dust off her knuckles on some bad boy in need of a life lesson is totally respectable to me. These respect knuckles are for you! Actually I took Ju Jitsu years ago before I took Karate; but it wouldn't hurt to take it again as a refresher. In the military we also took what was called unarmed combat. Thanks for the tip about Ju Jitsu Andy and the resepct knuckles. I personally kick azz women! Aww thanks. You are too kind.
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Showing some skin and raising some eyebrows, more than 100 scantily clad protestors gathered in dowtown Dallas Saturday, chanting, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, we understand that no means no." "I want to end victim blaming," said protestor Britt Shulte. "This is still a really prevailing concept and idea in our society that our apparel dictates the kind of treatment we receive and it dictates the respect that we receive." The group of fire-up North Texans called the event a "Slut Walk." Elizabeth Webb organized the local event. "I know, definitely, it is a controversial name," Webb said, "but we`re trying to reclaim that word and take the power away from that word. And, we want to specify that women dressing like sluts is not how people get raped." Toronto held the first Slut Walk after a police cheif there told a group of female students, "In order to avoid being raped, women should stop dressing like sluts." McKinney resident Makita Johnson said she was outraged by the victim blaming. "What made me want to do the walk," Johnson said, "is it's not right that we're teaching don't get raped when we should be teaching don't rape. So, I wanted to get in on the movement." And, she was in good company. Tammi Brittain said, "This is my daily dress and it's considered slutty for most. Hopefully it will just let people know that are out there, they're not alone. It's not their fault. They have support." The goal of the walk is to end victim blaming once and for all, according to participant Stephanie McMurry. "You know, it doesn`t matter how old you are or what you`re wearing or where you`re at or how much you had to drink," McMurry said. "It doesn`t matter what happens, it`s never the victims fault. Ever." Copyright © 2011, KDAF-TV http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-slut-walk-hits-dallas-streets-story,0,2823196.story video here why is there no good looking women there? A police officer is meant to serve and protect. To serve means when you put that uniform on your setting an example. That comment he made to that women "In order to avoid being raped, women should stop dressing like sluts." Thats the logic the Afghans terrorist use for covering up their women faces and one of the most sexiest thing i have heard from an officer of the law he should be ashamed. |
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