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Topic: Republicans WIsh to Eliminate 700,000 Jobs
mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/05/11 05:09 PM
here is a trivia question... was the US even not in dept?(at any point when there was a president)?

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Tue 04/05/11 05:13 PM
This Snopes article explains Obama's finances very straight-forwardly.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

TJN's photo
Tue 04/05/11 05:17 PM

And who is to DECIDE what rate the rich can afford?
If you understand how marginal tax rates work, then you can see that the 90% tax rates of the 1950s were easily affordable by the rich. You could have a 100% tax rate and the rich would still be rich. They would still be richer than anybody else. High marginal tax rates have no effect on the rich.


And who is to decide what rate the rich can afford?
Also who sets the standard for what rich is?

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Tue 04/05/11 05:26 PM
Nobody has to decide what rich is. All you need to decide is how progressive the marginal tax rate should be.

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Tue 04/05/11 06:00 PM



i'm just saying, some people are worth the effort to rehabilitate, most are not...locking someone up for life is just senseless and cruel... it can still be a life sentence, so just shorten the life...
Some facts come to mind on this, many people in prison suffer some type of mental illness and were born into poverty. It makes sence to me to try to eliminate the climate that breeds criminals. That is one reasone I am a democrat. I am for parental planning and think the key to americas success is a strong middle class. I think the republicans would rather have two classes the rich and desperate poor.


i agree with you, but i think it is big business that is doing it, not the government... the fools in charge are blindly doing what the lobbyists want, and big business have more to gain from everyone being poor more than the government... or at least a mutual benefit
I agree with you on this. the government seems to be an extension of big business with the laws all written in their favor and if your not rich when you enter politics you soon become rich if you play your cards right. I am glad alot of people are wakeing up to this. Government isnt the bad guy just the way its being run. I am sure there are many people who truley care but they are out voted and out spent by the business lobby.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/05/11 06:05 PM

here is a trivia question... was the US even not in dept?(at any point when there was a president)?

http://www.davemanuel.com/2009/07/11/when-was-the-last-time-that-the-united-states-had-zero-federal-debt

Chazster's photo
Tue 04/05/11 10:04 PM
Yet at the same time he says cut defense spending. But we lose jobs in the private sector when we cut there. So are you bias because its jobs for social programs?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/05/11 10:57 PM

Yet at the same time he says cut defense spending. But we lose jobs in the private sector when we cut there. So are you bias because its jobs for social programs?


no, they are bias because they think obama and the democraps can do no wrong, while the republicans can do no right...

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Wed 04/06/11 02:30 AM
no, they are bias because they think obama and the democraps can do no wrong, while the republicans can do no right...
You need to pay more attention to what people write on this forum. We progressives think that Obama and the democraps do a lot of things wrong by caving into Republican demands. We keep telling you that. Again and again again. You are correct on the other part, though. The Republicans really can do no right.

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Wed 04/06/11 05:00 AM

Yet at the same time he says cut defense spending. But we lose jobs in the private sector when we cut there. So are you bias because its jobs for social programs?
defence spending is a racket. If cuts must be made thats a great place to start and should be the first place. The numbers are huge financialy. Not the pennies to be saved by cutting off people in need.

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Wed 04/06/11 02:34 PM

Yet at the same time he says cut defense spending. But we lose jobs in the private sector when we cut there. So are you bias because its jobs for social programs?
America spends more on defence than all the other countries combined and we are not even safe.

If we spent more on social programs than all the other nations combined we would probably be the envy of the world and live better and longer lives but one would have a case to make cuts on social spending.

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Wed 04/06/11 05:32 PM


Yet at the same time he says cut defense spending. But we lose jobs in the private sector when we cut there. So are you bias because its jobs for social programs?
defence spending is a racket. If cuts must be made thats a great place to start and should be the first place. The numbers are huge financialy. Not the pennies to be saved by cutting off people in need.


So in short yes I was correct. You could care less about the thousands of jobs in the private sector that would be lost because of defense budget cuts. Thats all you had to say.

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Wed 04/06/11 05:40 PM
It's a dilemma, isn't it? The military is the most expensive jobs program we have. Everything else get targeted for thrift, but not the military. Nothing is too good for the military, except, of course, services for those whose lives have been destroyed by being in the military. But what the hey? They knew what they were getting into. No?

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Wed 04/06/11 05:52 PM

It's a dilemma, isn't it? The military is the most expensive jobs program we have. Everything else get targeted for thrift, but not the military. Nothing is too good for the military, except, of course, services for those whose lives have been destroyed by being in the military. But what the hey? They knew what they were getting into. No?


The military is one thing the Constitution says that the government should pay for.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/06/11 06:45 PM

It's a dilemma, isn't it? The military is the most expensive jobs program we have. Everything else get targeted for thrift, but not the military. Nothing is too good for the military, except, of course, services for those whose lives have been destroyed by being in the military. But what the hey? They knew what they were getting into. No?


all of our lives are the way they are now because of the military. lots of people sacrificed there lives so you can gripe about the conservatives, and me about the liberals. while i agree that all of the budget cutting should start at the military levels, it is a necessary program that is vital to us all...but i don't think we should be using it to invade foreign countries like Libya and Afghanistan...

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