That msharmony, is what I mean by eventually everyone will create his or her own personal religious interpretation of God.

If you claim that you follow no "leader" except "Christ" or "God" then you need to explain how you do that since Christ or God or Jesus does not actually walk around in the flesh 'leading' his flock.

When you claim to only follow Jesus, then I would have to ask.. okay show me where he is. Didn't you say he died on the cross? Have you imagined or hallucinated him into physical existence, or can only you see him?

Of course I know the answers to these questions, but I hope you get my point.

God is within.

yes , he is

I would have to clarify that I dont FOLLOW any man, which is different than saying I dont ever agree with and act in kind with other men(humankind)

instead, it is saying, that I CHOOSE for myself based upon my own experience and the observation of OTHERS,,, as opposed to strictly letting another (human) lead me unconditionally


I would hope to have followed Jesus unconditionally, which is the type of 'follow' I refer to

there is no one living man (human) for whom my loyalty and trust run that deeply...

jesus was a human....so they say

he was in the flesh, he was both human and God, by my faith

the human I refer to is that born from a man and woman and currently alive

he was the same as us, born from his mother, then he grew up and died, just like everyone else... doesn't sound very godish to me...

it all depends upon what you believe, I guess

thats not what I believe,,

It doesn't matter if you believe Jesus to be God or not. It doesn't matter if Jesus even existed at all. But if you realize that God is within, then you are on the right track.

i believe god left us to our own devices a long time ago, if there is/was ever a god to begin with... personally, i think "god" was an alien/aliens that used the poor, stupid people in the past.

IMO

of what i see all the time is these leaders , most churches do not teach you need to know the scriptures like the back of your hand and when you do these people will not be able to draw you into thier falsehoods.

Plain and simple.

2 Tim 2:15
5 Study to shew thyself approved unto Yahweh, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
KJV


all these examples show people following the man and not the message. The Message says to study.. then you will know. the chr-stian religion does not adhere to this.. just study and see.. Blessings..Miles

If creation works that way...

Then the 'aliens' were simply doing what god place them in creation to do...

It still comes back to 'god'.

if you believe in god.... maybe they were just looking for slaves, or some resource they needed...if any one of us was to be transported 2000 years ago, with the flick of a bic lighter, or a flashlight, we would be considered a god...

Not to one of the Disciples of Yahshua. they would see you for who any of us really is..Blessings..Miles

Miles, you have a lot of faith, but I doubt that anything you say is true. Why do you believe that stuff? I realize you believe it, I just don't see how it is true, or how you could know any of it is true.

Here is the bottom line. IT DOESN'T MATTER how we got here or who might have created us.

WE ARE HERE.

Just make the best of it. Live the life you are here to live. Living is not rocket science.

Just be grateful for your life and live it.

Too much time is spent looking for answers and not enough time is spent doing what we are here to do.

Live.

Because by trying my best to live it it has come true. I have seen it.. I have posted on here what I have seen. I have tried to understand it. If you never try why should Yahweh ever show you? Blessings..Miles

Absolutely.. And i only have problems with people who say they believe but will not try and show it.. Say you do not believe and I see that as you being truthful.. Blessings..Miles

Now here is a false prophet 2.

He said a few years ago if Nuclear warfare did not break out in the middle east within 90 day that he was a false prophet and would never be heard of again preaching.

well i guess trying to sell books don't count.

Yet the word says to never sell the word and you was freely given so freely give.

so its easy to pick out really. If someone is really a true prophet would they need to sell any thing?

Would they not know for sure Yahweh would Bless them as he does the birds of the field?

No but he needs money.. We are in a recession and Yahweh is poor I guess.

But even being advertised on this web site. at least thats where this link came from when i clicked on it. beware.. Blessings..Miles


http://www.the-end.com/RonaldWeinland.asp

"5 Study to shew thyself approved unto Yahweh, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

This patently makes absolutely no sense to me.

I would expect my teacher to be able to speak the dominant language of the area. If he speaks gibberish like the quote, then I don't know what he is trying to teach me.

Also, somehwere else in the bible it says "rely on the Yahweh, not on your knowledge at all whatsoever, dummy." You quoted that, or something very similar in essence, Miles, just a few days ago.

So which is it? Should I believe the teacher when he tells me "know!" or when he tells me "don't know!"

It is just that the scripture should make up its mind and not contradict itself with every two quotes taken from it.

How can you believe a teacher who says first "apples are cube-shaped" and the next day, "apples are not cube-shaped."

I think for learning purposes the grade three reader is much more useful than the Bible.

I have a little bit of a different question to ask you, Miles.

You believe, no doubt. You beleive that the bible commands you to know, and you believe that the bible commands you to not know.

You believe a thing and its exact opposite.

This is the question: How do you dare to expect others to become stupid by trying to show others that a man must and can believe everything in the bible?

Here's the same question, paraphrased: Where do you get the nerve to teach to others that believing in clearly stated contradictions, not even paradoces, but clear contradictions, is a GOOD thing to do, and your yahweh is pleased with you when you do that?

Truly. If there exists any intelligence living entity or entities that knowingly created us, then they have their reasons for not revealing themselves to us.

The one thing that we can be sure of is that our creator is not some sick egotistical male chauvinistic madman sitting in a throne like a human king demanding that everyone either love him or be cast into a place of everlasting punishment.

Let's face it, if that's the truth of reality then atheism would have been a far more interesting mystery.

I'm hoping that there is indeed a spiritual essence to our being. Something far more grand than any human can, or ever has, imagined or dreamed of.

Sure, that's just a romantic idealized dream. But we have the capability of imagination, so why not use it to best of our ability?

Why wallow in gloom and doom like a turkey with clipped wings when we can soar like an eagle?

I intuitively believe in spiritual essence. I truly do. I see no intellectual reason to dismiss it as being impossible, so why not have a little faith. It's free! And it's pleasing, at least for me.

But not if I need to drag it into the mud and bury it with feelings of guilt, unworthiness, and derogatory dogma. As I often say, atheism is a more positive picture than that. May as well become a secular atheists if I'm going to degrade the "god concept" into an untrustworthy hateful monster.

In the meantime, I do prefer the spiritual approach to life, and I've created a truly marvelous and beautiful "god concept" using a whole paradigm of facets of "God Consciousnesses".

It's a beautiful picture that I hope to share with the world in a book someday. I was actually working on it some last night. I've let it go for a while, but I have all my previous manuscripts on file. I've already done quite a bit of work on this actually. And the beautiful thing is that most of the work I've done has been organizing it into a really nice structure. So it will be easy to fill in the details.