Topic: Obammy admits he was born in Kenya
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Mon 03/28/11 09:33 PM
I'm sure you can find proof other than that video, right?

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Mon 03/28/11 09:41 PM
haven't looked nor do I have any intention to.

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Mon 03/28/11 09:43 PM
Edited by damnitscloudy on Mon 03/28/11 09:44 PM
This again? Wake me up when there is tangible proof that hes not a USA citizen. Even if he brings out the offical birth certificate, that won't stop people from picking holes in that too. Haters gonna hate.

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Mon 03/28/11 10:34 PM

i love the way liberals are experts on everything, from video editing to law making... i wish i was smart as some of the libs...



I'm not sure if you mean to imply it takes expertise to criticize this video. I don't feel that it does. Even an amateur can easily hear the poor quality splicing.

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Mon 03/28/11 10:36 PM


Not.... to the title of the thread.





isnt it crazy people can question the authenticity of a record issued with a STATE SEAL(birth certificate)

but believe a youtube editfest like this one?,,,



it's all done by the same liberals that can't face being wrong about him...the liberals might have messed with the video just to make it look like it was edited, disinformation...

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Mon 03/28/11 10:36 PM


i love the way liberals are experts on everything, from video editing to law making... i wish i was smart as some of the libs...



I'm not sure if you mean to imply it takes expertise to criticize this video. I don't feel that it does. Even an amateur can easily hear the poor quality splicing.


so your an expert on video splicing?

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Mon 03/28/11 10:42 PM




Not.... to the title of the thread.





isnt it crazy people can question the authenticity of a record issued with a STATE SEAL(birth certificate)

but believe a youtube editfest like this one?,,,


Ummmmm, when it is a "Replacement copy," lacking the state's raised seal... I seen the document you speak of. Documents can likewise be forged! And then there are other documents presented that shed shadow over the validity of his being naturally born here even in Hawaii. Take his college enrollment forms. So riddle me this, if his place of birth is cited as Kenya in his college documents but a "Replacement" Copy of his birth certificate says Hawaii I have a reasonable suspicion to doubt the validity of his claims! So what do I believe? He was lying on his college applications for favorable status for enrollment?

Sorry but I want the DNC's azz for this lie they pulled on us! the question is how to bring down the DNC and to it so totally they never come back to haunt us! I seriously hope when the crap does hit the fan the military takes the right side of this for a change. We shall see where this goes...

I can say this, act complacent all you want. Ignore the possibility the Democratic Party has lied to us all along. And when the damn does break don't cry if it washes everything you thought away.



I went to a pretty white school in the 1 year of college i took. I met a guy whiter than I who was legally able to claim "African American" on his college enrollment papers for a partial scholarship because his mother was 50% african american.


I knew a guy when I was in High School who looked just as white as I do. When I met his blood parents though I found out he was actually born of BOTH black parents. Seems both parents had slave heritage somewhere upstream of their heritage and the recessive white genes came out and produced a black hared white guy. He had a tough time with that not racially. He knew who his parents were. No one believed he really was black. Genetics is a strange twizzler!

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Mon 03/28/11 10:53 PM
Edited by AndyBgood on Mon 03/28/11 10:54 PM

This again? Wake me up when there is tangible proof that hes not a USA citizen. Even if he brings out the offical birth certificate, that won't stop people from picking holes in that too. Haters gonna hate.


I would not mind seeing an original document instead of an after the fact copy! It is funny to me who Libs can scream that one thing the government does like go to war is a conspiracy when it is someone they don't like like Ol' Bush Jr but when it is their BOY Obama (coming to you from the STREETS Yalls!) going postal on Libya for European oil interests its OK cause he is our BOY! So when it is quite possible some money traded hands and some documents were forged post haste and made to look official when some of us cry foul WE become the conspiracy nuts. So has anyone posted the complete speech in question? It would be interesting to see for sure if there was a cut remark to be fair. The ultimate fact is though that Obama is a liar! He cannot keep a promise. Says he is against war but here we are engaging Libya now! Sells us out to the Insurance industry. I mean where is his malarkey going to end? Oh but he can do no wrong like your beloved Democratic Party!

Party Politics swallow and are Fuquing up our nation. Unfortunately if it was not for the Republican Party we would be just like Greece NOW! PONDER THAT!!!

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Tue 03/29/11 12:32 AM


Party Politics swallow and are Fuquing up our nation. Unfortunately if it was not for the Republican Party we would be just like Greece NOW! PONDER THAT!!!



Thats the biggest piece of troll bait I've seen in awhile, but I will bite. The Republican party lately has done nothing but try to destroy any public funded broadcasts, while still giving money to NASCAR for promotions. Also, they are obsessed with the part in between women's legs because they want to redefine rape, incest and pedophilia. Yet they still want to outlaw gay marriage because its evil or something.

All politics are stupid, but the Republican Party is making a new low.

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Tue 03/29/11 12:41 AM
if it was not for the Republican Party we would be just like Greece NOW
thats' pretty hard to resist.

The reason Greece is the way it is is because income tax evasion is Greece's favorite national past time. Nobody pays their taxes, but rich Greeks, in particular, have taken all their money offshore so as not to have to pay taxes in Greece, very much like what Republicans in America are doing.

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Tue 03/29/11 04:44 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Tue 03/29/11 04:46 AM

if it was not for the Republican Party we would be just like Greece NOW
thats' pretty hard to resist.

The reason Greece is the way it is is because income tax evasion is Greece's favorite national past time. Nobody pays their taxes, but rich Greeks, in particular, have taken all their money offshore so as not to have to pay taxes in Greece, very much like what Republicans in America are doing.



I couldn't resist either..

So what's the problem in Greece?

Years of unrestrained spending, cheap lending and failure to implement financial reforms left Greece badly exposed when the global economic downturn struck. This whisked away a curtain of partly fiddled statistics to reveal debt levels and deficits that exceeded limits set by the eurozone.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/02/10/greek.debt.qanda/index.html


Why is Greece in such a mess?

For years, Greece has been spending money it doesn't have.

The government there took advantage of the economic good-times to borrow money and spend it on pay-rises for public workers and projects such as the 2004 Olympics.

It began to run-up a bigger and bigger deficit (the gap between how much a country brings-in from tax, and what it spends).
Greece enjoyed high public spending during the boom years, including an expensive Olympics.

After the world economy went bad, Greece suffered.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/10100201


Doesn't this sound familiar?

"It's a war against workers and we will answer with war, with constant struggles until this policy is overturned," Christos Katsiotis, a representative of a communist-party affiliated union, told the Associated Press.

Union leaders called the action in protest at Papandreou's plans for spending restraint including cuts in public sector pay and bonuses, and a freeze on hiring new employees.

Ilias Iliopoulos, general secretary of the public sector union ADEDY, accused Papandreou of targeting the wrong people in his efforts to fight the debt crisis that threatens Greece's financial stability and raises the spectre of contagion across the eurozone.

"They had promised the rich would pay but instead they take the money from the poor," Iliopoulos said. ADEDY also accused the Greek government of planning "permanent austerity" and "the bankruptcy of employees and pensioners".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/10/greek-workers-strike-eu-bailout?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

The party is over.

After years of overspending by both the government and ordinary people armed with credit cards — and now flush with credit-card debt — Greeks know the party is over. According to a poll released on Feb. 14, nearly two-thirds of people support the government's proposed austerity measures to cut the soaring deficit. Many even believe they don't go far enough.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1964689,00.html#ixzz1HzK1Veaa


I could keep going, but I think I made my point.




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Tue 03/29/11 05:05 AM

haven't looked nor do I have any intention to.


Of course not.

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Tue 03/29/11 06:58 AM
Edited by artlo on Tue 03/29/11 07:53 AM
For years, Greece has been spending money it doesn't have

So, you're saying that if Greeks were to pay adequate taxes, they would still have this same debt crisis.

This is how Conservatives have the world thinking. They think that, when the world economy is in trouble, the thing to do is to ensure that governments will have inadequate revenues to keep their economies running.

Typically, not one of your sources mentions Greece's tax policies. Only spending.

Iceland threw off its Conservative government for this very reason after the financial ruin it experienced in 2009. Greece's fate has been sealed by the Conservative worldwide fad. Iceland, and the other nordic countries are the ones to watch. Not Greece. The Icelanders have made the unfortunate choice of going with a flat tax, which will be highly regressive, but at least they will probably be able to bring their debt problems under control.

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Tue 03/29/11 10:54 AM

it's all done by the same liberals that can't face being wrong about him...the liberals might have messed with the video just to make it look like it was edited, disinformation...


Yeah, actually it's very possible that this was done completely as a troll, possibly by a liberal.

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Tue 03/29/11 10:58 AM



i love the way liberals are experts on everything, from video editing to law making... i wish i was smart as some of the libs...



I'm not sure if you mean to imply it takes expertise to criticize this video. I don't feel that it does. Even an amateur can easily hear the poor quality splicing.


so your an expert on video splicing?


Tell me what you mean by 'expert' and I'll answer your question more thoroughly.

I'm competent at video editing.

Also, no one is claiming that the video splices match the audio splices, nor that the video splicing was intended to deceive. Its the audio splicing which has him seeming to saying things he didn't say.


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Tue 03/29/11 02:08 PM

if it was not for the Republican Party we would be just like Greece NOW
thats' pretty hard to resist.

The reason Greece is the way it is is because income tax evasion is Greece's favorite national past time. Nobody pays their taxes, but rich Greeks, in particular, have taken all their money offshore so as not to have to pay taxes in Greece, very much like what Republicans in America are doing.


Now that you have bitten how about this, What have we got going now? Sounds just like what goes on here too!

Greece is the example of what we are heading into now since voters got it in their head they can vote themselves more money! Greece VOTED themselves into the hole they are in just like we are doing! Now in crunching numbers many have determined Greece's Spending outstrips their means so if they were indeed to collect all taxes due they would still have a shortfall of almost %200! That is the most conservative estimate presented of all the estimates I have seen!

The hole Greece is in is so deep that the EU conference addressing the problem is hitting one issue, they want to give Greece German money but Germany does not like that idea at all. Why? They see it is a BAD risk, not a bad investment. Germany wants them to straighten out their budget before giving Greece anything.

What I see is that Liberals cannot see reality no matter how hard they think they are trying! Social Spending is not an investment when there is no kind of positive return! Paying for people to live is not a return. Getting people back to work through training, that is an investment. Helping people back on their feet, that is an investment. People treating disability like some kind of retirement program is not an investment. I met a Vietnam Vet who lost both arms and both legs but he had a job at the local VA as a councilor for vets who lost limbs in combat. He had to undergo training but his attitude was that he himself was disabled but he was going to help others cope with being suddenly an amputee. He wanted to be useful and not a useless mound in a bed hating the world. So why is it so many people who can retrain and find alternative jobs refuse to do so? There are people who get so fuqued by life they have no choice and that is what disability was for. I am sick of all these "Disabled" people who are not really that disabled milking that system and taking away from those really in need!

But digressing back to Greece. The Greeks dug their hole and jumped in head first. They have to dig themselves out becasue if the EU bails them out they will do nothing to fix their financial mismanagement.

Sorry to break this to you liberals, Look harder at Greece! You are not seeing the whole picture yet. Go ahead and blame the rich there too. It isn't just the rich but the PEOPLE of Greece being too demanding and wishful embracing a social philosophy that has failed them and everyone else who did!

We have social programs but so did Communist Russia and so did Nazi Germany! If they broke their banks why is it we think we can do any better than the others who fail?

Just keep doing the wrong thing until we get it right?

FAIL!

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Tue 03/29/11 06:06 PM




i love the way liberals are experts on everything, from video editing to law making... i wish i was smart as some of the libs...



I'm not sure if you mean to imply it takes expertise to criticize this video. I don't feel that it does. Even an amateur can easily hear the poor quality splicing.


so your an expert on video splicing?


Tell me what you mean by 'expert' and I'll answer your question more thoroughly.

I'm competent at video editing.

Also, no one is claiming that the video splices match the audio splices, nor that the video splicing was intended to deceive. Its the audio splicing which has him seeming to saying things he didn't say.




Two things about the audio that stand out to me are 1 the tone remains consistent throughout its duration and 2 the cadence of speech also remains consistent throughout its duration.

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Tue 03/29/11 06:20 PM
I think you should be filing all kinds of law suits.

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Tue 03/29/11 06:32 PM





i love the way liberals are experts on everything, from video editing to law making... i wish i was smart as some of the libs...



I'm not sure if you mean to imply it takes expertise to criticize this video. I don't feel that it does. Even an amateur can easily hear the poor quality splicing.


so your an expert on video splicing?


Tell me what you mean by 'expert' and I'll answer your question more thoroughly.

I'm competent at video editing.

Also, no one is claiming that the video splices match the audio splices, nor that the video splicing was intended to deceive. Its the audio splicing which has him seeming to saying things he didn't say.




Two things about the audio that stand out to me are 1 the tone remains consistent throughout its duration and 2 the cadence of speech also remains consistent throughout its duration.



what stands out to me is that its FRAUDULANT/HOAX, because the audio OBVIOUSLY doesnt match the video

his gestures dont go with what he is saying nor does the audience expressions,,,


the audio is pieced together, even when he says 'I am not an american.' it is not a crisp complete sentence that it would need to be in the context it is show,, it is obviously trailing off into something after the last syllable in american,,,

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Tue 03/29/11 07:30 PM
Oh my goodness... who really cares about this? It's like the "chicken or the egg?" There are far larger thing that our government is doing that we should be worried about. One man alone, be it Obama, Bush, Clinton or Regan, is not the cause of all the turmoil in our country right now. The President is simply a figurehead. Both sides need to stop bickering over things that don't matter and focus on REAL problems.