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Topic: Nuclear Power Plants
SPovek's photo
Mon 03/21/11 07:09 PM




poor Japan it is.tears Playing with Mother Nature. She usally wins.
Be greatful we live in USA, flowerforyou they reinforced that type of power plant here a few years back. But who is to say if that is enough. : (





I don't know much, but could a nuclear plant withstand a f-five twister?


Rather easily. The power rods that are currently melting into the earths core at the chernobyle site are nearly indestructable due to their mass/heat ratio. Like setting the wind on fire. The one thing that is most destructive to the power rods is water. This is why the shelf life while cooled with water is a maximum of 70 years. When innundated with water (like a tsunami) you risk litterally ignighting the water. Imagine setting the Pacific ocean on instant boil. The earthquake caused by that explosion would shift the techtonic plates with enough force (depending on the direction) to either force the Earth's core to stop spinning (eventually eliminating gravity) or cause it to spin with such force the magnetic field would become powerful enough to suck the moon into the Earth.

And they're afraid of solar panels because mass use would reflect enough light to cool the earth by 3°

Silly Humans lol

Some humans are quite silly...

'lifetime' of decaying urainium rods is 250 years... They will stop 'burning' then. Earths 'gravity' does not come from the 'spin' of the core... It comes from the 'mass' of the earth. The moon is moving away from the earth at a measured ammount every year (it used to be a lot closer). Earths 'magnetic field' will never be strong enought to 'drag' the moon into the Earth. (that would require an increase in gravitational forces).




Gravity does come from the mass but is magnified by the energy created by the spin. Ever twist copper wire around a nail and run power through it? you Magnetize the nail. The core on a microscopic scale. As for the uranium (yes if thats what the rods of the Japanese plants used). Countries with fewer resources and technology then say America or Japan might use Uranium enriched rod however technology as surpassed that by 100 years atleast. Plutonium charged corbonetic fuel cells inserted into a magnecite rod will last 10's of thousands of years. And I didn't just see that on tv.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 03/21/11 07:14 PM
Correction, the half life of Uranium 235 and 238 is 25 MILLION years! That is when it is only Half as radioactive. Even in Melt Down Uranium that is unchanged in its combustion still remains uranium. otherwise it gives off radioactive Iodine, Selenium, Cesium, and a host of other isotopes as well as atomic fragments and gamma radiation as part of its combustion process.

metalwing's photo
Mon 03/21/11 07:23 PM





poor Japan it is.tears Playing with Mother Nature. She usally wins.
Be greatful we live in USA, flowerforyou they reinforced that type of power plant here a few years back. But who is to say if that is enough. : (





I don't know much, but could a nuclear plant withstand a f-five twister?


Rather easily. The power rods that are currently melting into the earths core at the chernobyle site are nearly indestructable due to their mass/heat ratio. Like setting the wind on fire. The one thing that is most destructive to the power rods is water. This is why the shelf life while cooled with water is a maximum of 70 years. When innundated with water (like a tsunami) you risk litterally ignighting the water. Imagine setting the Pacific ocean on instant boil. The earthquake caused by that explosion would shift the techtonic plates with enough force (depending on the direction) to either force the Earth's core to stop spinning (eventually eliminating gravity) or cause it to spin with such force the magnetic field would become powerful enough to suck the moon into the Earth.

And they're afraid of solar panels because mass use would reflect enough light to cool the earth by 3°

Silly Humans lol

Some humans are quite silly...

'lifetime' of decaying urainium rods is 250 years... They will stop 'burning' then. Earths 'gravity' does not come from the 'spin' of the core... It comes from the 'mass' of the earth. The moon is moving away from the earth at a measured ammount every year (it used to be a lot closer). Earths 'magnetic field' will never be strong enought to 'drag' the moon into the Earth. (that would require an increase in gravitational forces).




Gravity does come from the mass but is magnified by the energy created by the spin. Ever twist copper wire around a nail and run power through it? you Magnetize the nail. The core on a microscopic scale. As for the uranium (yes if thats what the rods of the Japanese plants used). Countries with fewer resources and technology then say America or Japan might use Uranium enriched rod however technology as surpassed that by 100 years atleast. Plutonium charged corbonetic fuel cells inserted into a magnecite rod will last 10's of thousands of years. And I didn't just see that on tv.


With all due respect your science is absurd. It sounds like something that came out of a cartoon. Gravity isn't magnified by spin and has nothing to do with wire wrapped around a nail.

Uranium filled rods are just that. "Technology as surpassed that by 100 years?" That doesn't mean anything. The reactions of uranium and plutonium are the same as used in WWII, which wasn't 100 years ago.

A fuel cell is not a fuel rod. Plutonium is a horrible poison that will last for a terribly long time but I cannot tell if that is the point you are trying to make.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 03/21/11 07:53 PM





poor Japan it is.tears Playing with Mother Nature. She usally wins.
Be greatful we live in USA, flowerforyou they reinforced that type of power plant here a few years back. But who is to say if that is enough. : (





I don't know much, but could a nuclear plant withstand a f-five twister?


Rather easily. The power rods that are currently melting into the earths core at the chernobyle site are nearly indestructable due to their mass/heat ratio. Like setting the wind on fire. The one thing that is most destructive to the power rods is water. This is why the shelf life while cooled with water is a maximum of 70 years. When innundated with water (like a tsunami) you risk litterally ignighting the water. Imagine setting the Pacific ocean on instant boil. The earthquake caused by that explosion would shift the techtonic plates with enough force (depending on the direction) to either force the Earth's core to stop spinning (eventually eliminating gravity) or cause it to spin with such force the magnetic field would become powerful enough to suck the moon into the Earth.

And they're afraid of solar panels because mass use would reflect enough light to cool the earth by 3°

Silly Humans lol

Some humans are quite silly...

'lifetime' of decaying urainium rods is 250 years... They will stop 'burning' then. Earths 'gravity' does not come from the 'spin' of the core... It comes from the 'mass' of the earth. The moon is moving away from the earth at a measured ammount every year (it used to be a lot closer). Earths 'magnetic field' will never be strong enought to 'drag' the moon into the Earth. (that would require an increase in gravitational forces).




Gravity does come from the mass but is magnified by the energy created by the spin. Ever twist copper wire around a nail and run power through it? you Magnetize the nail. The core on a microscopic scale. As for the uranium (yes if thats what the rods of the Japanese plants used). Countries with fewer resources and technology then say America or Japan might use Uranium enriched rod however technology as surpassed that by 100 years atleast. Plutonium charged corbonetic fuel cells inserted into a magnecite rod will last 10's of thousands of years. And I didn't just see that on tv.


so by your logic, the moon doesn't have any gravity?

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 03/21/11 08:27 PM





poor Japan it is.tears Playing with Mother Nature. She usally wins.
Be greatful we live in USA, flowerforyou they reinforced that type of power plant here a few years back. But who is to say if that is enough. : (





I don't know much, but could a nuclear plant withstand a f-five twister?


Rather easily. The power rods that are currently melting into the earths core at the chernobyle site are nearly indestructable due to their mass/heat ratio. Like setting the wind on fire. The one thing that is most destructive to the power rods is water. This is why the shelf life while cooled with water is a maximum of 70 years. When innundated with water (like a tsunami) you risk litterally ignighting the water. Imagine setting the Pacific ocean on instant boil. The earthquake caused by that explosion would shift the techtonic plates with enough force (depending on the direction) to either force the Earth's core to stop spinning (eventually eliminating gravity) or cause it to spin with such force the magnetic field would become powerful enough to suck the moon into the Earth.

And they're afraid of solar panels because mass use would reflect enough light to cool the earth by 3°

Silly Humans lol

Some humans are quite silly...

'lifetime' of decaying urainium rods is 250 years... They will stop 'burning' then. Earths 'gravity' does not come from the 'spin' of the core... It comes from the 'mass' of the earth. The moon is moving away from the earth at a measured ammount every year (it used to be a lot closer). Earths 'magnetic field' will never be strong enought to 'drag' the moon into the Earth. (that would require an increase in gravitational forces).




Gravity does come from the mass but is magnified by the energy created by the spin. Ever twist copper wire around a nail and run power through it? you Magnetize the nail. The core on a microscopic scale. As for the uranium (yes if thats what the rods of the Japanese plants used). Countries with fewer resources and technology then say America or Japan might use Uranium enriched rod however technology as surpassed that by 100 years atleast. Plutonium charged corbonetic fuel cells inserted into a magnecite rod will last 10's of thousands of years. And I didn't just see that on tv.
Magnetic energy might be increased by 'spin' of the core... However gravity is strictly a function of the mass concentrated in a single place...

Earths spin change will not effect the gravity unless a 'piece' of the earth (say an entire continent) were to be 'spun' off.

If you could simply 'increase' gravity by spining a magnetic field we would have had AntiGravity space craft in the 1890's.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 03/21/11 10:13 PM
Gravity is a function of mass or at least the presence of mass. Matter exerts gravity at least that is how Einstieninan physics explains it more or less. Magnetism and gravity are two wholly different and as far as we can tell exclusive of each other. Magnetism is a direct function of Electron flow. Likewise not all materials are magnetic for a host of reasons. Since the core of the earth is metallic that can induce magnetism. Especially since it is also spinning at a pretty fantastic rate of speed.

Also Plutonium is actually produced with the decay of uranium but normally that decay must be controlled to garner significant yields for weaponizing. So far the only thing we can do with radio actively contaminated reactor components is to bury them in a super site. Our first experimental reactor melted down and was entombed! We need to learn how to artificially decompose radioactive materials more effectively.

There is a flavor of uranium called depleted uranium but that like Magnesium or Titanium can burn ferociously. The smoke of its combustion is deadly and slightly radioactive! Enough to kill people after the fact. It is the combustive nature of Uranium that makes it such a good projectile for armor piercing rounds like the A10 Warthog packs! Oddly the cleanup after using those rounds is pretty scary!

Chazster's photo
Mon 03/21/11 10:34 PM






Rather easily. The power rods that are currently melting into the earths core at the chernobyle site are nearly indestructable due to their mass/heat ratio. Like setting the wind on fire. The one thing that is most destructive to the power rods is water. This is why the shelf life while cooled with water is a maximum of 70 years. When innundated with water (like a tsunami) you risk litterally ignighting the water. Imagine setting the Pacific ocean on instant boil. The earthquake caused by that explosion would shift the techtonic plates with enough force (depending on the direction) to either force the Earth's core to stop spinning (eventually eliminating gravity) or cause it to spin with such force the magnetic field would become powerful enough to suck the moon into the Earth.

And they're afraid of solar panels because mass use would reflect enough light to cool the earth by 3°

Silly Humans lol


I really wonder who his physics teacher was.

metalwing's photo
Tue 03/22/11 12:37 PM
Edited by metalwing on Tue 03/22/11 12:40 PM






Rather easily. The power rods that are currently melting into the earths core at the chernobyle site are nearly indestructable due to their mass/heat ratio. Like setting the wind on fire. The one thing that is most destructive to the power rods is water. This is why the shelf life while cooled with water is a maximum of 70 years. When innundated with water (like a tsunami) you risk litterally ignighting the water. Imagine setting the Pacific ocean on instant boil. The earthquake caused by that explosion would shift the techtonic plates with enough force (depending on the direction) to either force the Earth's core to stop spinning (eventually eliminating gravity) or cause it to spin with such force the magnetic field would become powerful enough to suck the moon into the Earth.

And they're afraid of solar panels because mass use would reflect enough light to cool the earth by 3°

Silly Humans lol


I really wonder who his physics teacher was.


I suspect that there wasn't one.

no photo
Tue 03/22/11 02:02 PM


...altho i have thought before,how cool it would be to send those radioactive rods through a black hole...like a cosmic garbage disposal..just make sure the cameras are at the ready..it would be something to see i'm sure...:laughing:

Chazster's photo
Tue 03/22/11 04:07 PM



...altho i have thought before,how cool it would be to send those radioactive rods through a black hole...like a cosmic garbage disposal..just make sure the cameras are at the ready..it would be something to see i'm sure...:laughing:

Wouldn't the fact that it's a black hole prevent us from seeing anything at all? I mean it's a black hole because the gravity is so strong not even light can eacape so how could we see anything?

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