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Topic: As World Burns Obama Going to RIO
msharmony's photo
Thu 03/17/11 12:02 PM
lol, u shouldnt tease....

I just looked at the white house schedule and he is still in DC, going to issue a STATEMENT about Japan but not yet there,,,

(unless this is breaking news)

damnitscloudy's photo
Thu 03/17/11 09:36 PM

lol, u shouldnt tease....

I just looked at the white house schedule and he is still in DC, going to issue a STATEMENT about Japan but not yet there,,,

(unless this is breaking news)


Damnit! I was watching CNN (before I changed it to the House marathon) and I heard them say his motorcade was there. So that means he has to be in it? I dunno.

msharmony's photo
Thu 03/17/11 10:18 PM
I will check the schedule later, perhaps they just hadnt refreshed it yet

Lpdon's photo
Thu 03/17/11 10:39 PM


lol, u shouldnt tease....

I just looked at the white house schedule and he is still in DC, going to issue a STATEMENT about Japan but not yet there,,,

(unless this is breaking news)


Damnit! I was watching CNN (before I changed it to the House marathon) and I heard them say his motorcade was there. So that means he has to be in it? I dunno.


He was playing Golf(Yet again) yesterday................

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/18/11 01:41 PM

I clearly remember W being critized for his many many vacations to Camp David.


camp david is not a vacation....

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/18/11 01:46 PM

how many days should he do that? should he start as soon as he hears about a tragedy? should he wait a week, two weeks? should he go when he is ASKED or INVITED to do so?

what would be the CORRECT thing for him to do , I wonder,,,
no, he should go on as many vacations as possible, not caring about the US or the world affairs...he's not paying for anything, so why not? we pay his bill, so he should take more vacations, maybe twice a month?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/18/11 01:50 PM





4 New York Times journalists missing in Libya
NEW YORK (AP) -- Four New York Times journalists covering the fighting in Libya were reported missing Wednesday, and the newspaper held out hope that they were alive and in the custody of the Libyan government.

Editors last heard from the journalists on Tuesday as they were covering the retreat of rebels from the town of Ajdabiya, and Libyan officials told the newspaper they were trying to locate the four, executive editor Bill Keller said in a statement. The Times said there were unconfirmed reports that forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi had detained the foursome.

"We are grateful to the Libyan government for their assurance that if our journalists were captured they would be released promptly and unharmed," Keller said.

The missing journalists are Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Anthony Shadid, the newspaper's Beirut bureau chief; Stephen Farrell, a reporter and videographer; and photographers Tyler Hicks and Lynsey Addario. In 2009, Farrell was kidnapped by the Taliban and later rescued by British commandos.

"Their families and their colleagues at The Times are anxiously seeking information about their situation, and praying that they are safe," Keller said.

The White House on Wednesday urged the Libyan government to refrain from harassing or using violence against journalists. Obama spokesman Jay Carney said the United States is firm in its belief that journalists should be protected and allowed to do their work.

The advocacy group Reporters Without Borders said it was asking its correspondents in Libya to help track down the journalists' whereabouts.

"It's a very dangerous climate for reporters right now," said Clothilde Le Coz, Washington director for Reporters Without Borders. "It's a reminder that these are real people, and they are putting themselves at real risk to bring information out of these places."

Pro-Gadhafi forces have largely gained control of Ajdabiya after two days of relentless shelling but still face pockets of resistance in the city of 140,000 people.

The breakdown in rebel defenses in Ajdabiya threatened to open the gateway to the long stretch of eastern Libya that has been in the control of the opposition, including Benghazi, Libya's second-largest city and the de facto capital of the opposition.

Shadid's father, Buddy Shadid, said he last spoke to his son on Monday. The reporter was tired and living on cans of tuna, but had planned to spend another week covering Libya.

"I told him it's so crazy there, no one knows who's friend, who's foe. But he said he knew what he's doing, not to worry," Buddy Shadid said. "We're all just praying for his safety."

All four Times journalists are experienced war correspondents.

Shadid previously worked for the Washington Post, The Associated Press and the Boston Globe. He won the Pulitzer Prize for international reporting in 2004 and 2010 for his coverage of Iraq.

Hicks, a former photographer for the Troy Daily News in Ohio and The Wilmington Star-News in North Carolina, had worked in hotspots from Haiti to Chechnya. He was named Newspaper Photographer of the Year in 2007 by Pictures of the Year International and won an Infinity award from the International Center of Photography in 2001.

Addario was part of the New York Times team that won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for international reporting and also has worked for National Geographic and Time magazine. She won a MacArthur Fellowship, or "Genius Grant," in 2009.

In September 2009, Farrell and Sultan Munadi, an Afghan journalist and interpreter who worked regularly with the Times and other news organizations, were taken hostage when they went to cover the aftermath of a NATO airstrike that killed scores of civilians in northern Afghanistan.

Munadi and a British commando died in the raid that rescued Farrell, a Briton.

Farrell also was kidnapped in 2004 in Fallujah, Iraq. He previously worked for the Times of London.

In 2008, New York Times reporter David Rohde was kidnapped while trying to make contact with a Taliban commander in Afghanistan. Rohde and an Afghan colleague escaped in June 2009 after seven months in captivity, most spent in Taliban sanctuaries in Pakistan.

The Committee to Protect Journalists says it has documented five assaults, 25 detentions and dozens of attempts to obstruct or intimidate journalists as they try to cover Libya's unrest.

Covering Libya has quickly become more dangerous for reporters than the earlier uprising in Egypt, said Joel Simon, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists. He said Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak had tried to preserve his international reputation by reining in government attacks on journalists.

"There's no such calculation going on in Libya," Simon said. "It's a very difficult, precarious situation for the press right now."

On Saturday Al-Jazeera cameraman Ali Hassan al-Jaber was killed and correspondent Baybah Wald Amhadi was wounded when their car was ambushed near Benghazi.

Last week three British Broadcasting Corp. employees were detained, beaten and subjected to mock executions by Libyan soldiers while attempting to reach the western city of Zawiya

On March 2, Libyan authorities detained reporter Andrei Netto of Brazil's Estado de S. Paulo newspaper and Ghaith Abdul-Ahad of Britain's Guardian newspaper. Netto was released on March 11, and Abdul-Ahad was released on Wednesday.

In all, there have been more than 300 attempts to intimidate or obstruct reporters since a wave of Middle East uprisings began in December in Tunisia, the Committee to Protect Journalists said.

CBS said its reporter Lara Logan was attacked and sexually assaulted in Egypt while covering reaction to Mubarak's resignation. A CNN crew including reporter Anderson Cooper was also attacked by pro-Mubarak protesters.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/4-New-York-Times-journalists-apf-3245316908.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=4&asset=&ccode=

Yep Yep. Golf and RIO are more important. After all the cisis isn't in the US.


You mean he didn't play golf when the oil spill was covering the gulf?

I am very impressed... Maybe that is why he is making up for it now.



and? how does golfing for an afternoon impact what can be done for a disaster,, most of which can be handled with EXPERIENCED people, by a phone call ..


Ever heard of the term "leadership"?

You know that thing people in high office are supposed to exert from time to time..

Obama deferred to OTHERS just like he has in every crisis.

He is a suit that reads other peoples words off a teleprompter and that is about all he is..



yeah, all of my bosses have been LEADERS of their companies but yet, I was the one they DIRECTED to do the work I WAS GOOD AT, while they did the negotiating and managing that THEY were good at

all this talk of smaller government, I find it odd that people are still expecting a president to be personally present for EVERYONES disasters,,,,there are many things to be handled that are important during an emergency that dont require one to actually BE AT THE SCENE


as of august of 2010, the president had taken 48 days off, thats 1 1/2 years into his presidency( about 30 days per year, give or take, )

compare that to Bushs 977 days in 8 years(or about 120 days per year), and I still think thats far too big a difference to truly receive the SAME scrutiny

yet, those who wish to compare as a blight to OBAMA will swear that Bush was capable of 'leading' from camp david and his ranch, yet OBAMA is not leading if he is not on SITE someplace where tragedy has struck






yea, that major tragedy in Brazil needs his attention...and i'm sure he can run the country from a foreign country...

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/18/11 05:29 PM


I clearly remember W being critized for his many many vacations to Camp David.


camp david is not a vacation....



yeah, it is,, although it does not exclude a president from WORKING

from the whitehouse site

Camp David

Camp David, known formally as the Naval Support Facility Thurmont, is the President’s country residence. Located in Catoctin Mountain Park in Frederick County, Maryland, Camp David has offered Presidents an opportunity for solitude and tranquility, as well as an ideal place to host foreign leaders



residence, as opposed to office/workplace,,,

solitude and tranquility, as opposed to productivity


sounds like a vacation home to me

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/18/11 05:32 PM


how many days should he do that? should he start as soon as he hears about a tragedy? should he wait a week, two weeks? should he go when he is ASKED or INVITED to do so?

what would be the CORRECT thing for him to do , I wonder,,,
no, he should go on as many vacations as possible, not caring about the US or the world affairs...he's not paying for anything, so why not? we pay his bill, so he should take more vacations, maybe twice a month?



actually, the beloved Raegan took 335 in 8 years, that would average to over 40 per year(and he was on the low side for what is traditional)

so OBAma is really not vacationing more than all or most other presidents have,,,

Lpdon's photo
Fri 03/18/11 05:32 PM



how many days should he do that? should he start as soon as he hears about a tragedy? should he wait a week, two weeks? should he go when he is ASKED or INVITED to do so?

what would be the CORRECT thing for him to do , I wonder,,,
no, he should go on as many vacations as possible, not caring about the US or the world affairs...he's not paying for anything, so why not? we pay his bill, so he should take more vacations, maybe twice a month?



actually, the beloved Raegan took 335 in 8 years, that would average to over 40 per year(and he was on the low side for what is traditional)

so OBAma is really not vacationing more than all or most other presidents have,,,


Reagan didn't go on vacation when radiation is showing up in California.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/18/11 05:33 PM






4 New York Times journalists missing in Libya
NEW YORK (AP) -- Four New York Times journalists covering the fighting in Libya were reported missing Wednesday, and the newspaper held out hope that they were alive and in the custody of the Libyan government.

Editors last heard from the journalists on Tuesday as they were covering the retreat of rebels from the town of Ajdabiya, and Libyan officials told the newspaper they were trying to locate the four, executive editor Bill Keller said in a statement. The Times said there were unconfirmed reports that forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi had detained the foursome.

"We are grateful to the Libyan government for their assurance that if our journalists were captured they would be released promptly and unharmed," Keller said.

The missing journalists are Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Anthony Shadid, the newspaper's Beirut bureau chief; Stephen Farrell, a reporter and videographer; and photographers Tyler Hicks and Lynsey Addario. In 2009, Farrell was kidnapped by the Taliban and later rescued by British commandos.

"Their families and their colleagues at The Times are anxiously seeking information about their situation, and praying that they are safe," Keller said.

The White House on Wednesday urged the Libyan government to refrain from harassing or using violence against journalists. Obama spokesman Jay Carney said the United States is firm in its belief that journalists should be protected and allowed to do their work.

The advocacy group Reporters Without Borders said it was asking its correspondents in Libya to help track down the journalists' whereabouts.

"It's a very dangerous climate for reporters right now," said Clothilde Le Coz, Washington director for Reporters Without Borders. "It's a reminder that these are real people, and they are putting themselves at real risk to bring information out of these places."

Pro-Gadhafi forces have largely gained control of Ajdabiya after two days of relentless shelling but still face pockets of resistance in the city of 140,000 people.

The breakdown in rebel defenses in Ajdabiya threatened to open the gateway to the long stretch of eastern Libya that has been in the control of the opposition, including Benghazi, Libya's second-largest city and the de facto capital of the opposition.

Shadid's father, Buddy Shadid, said he last spoke to his son on Monday. The reporter was tired and living on cans of tuna, but had planned to spend another week covering Libya.

"I told him it's so crazy there, no one knows who's friend, who's foe. But he said he knew what he's doing, not to worry," Buddy Shadid said. "We're all just praying for his safety."

All four Times journalists are experienced war correspondents.

Shadid previously worked for the Washington Post, The Associated Press and the Boston Globe. He won the Pulitzer Prize for international reporting in 2004 and 2010 for his coverage of Iraq.

Hicks, a former photographer for the Troy Daily News in Ohio and The Wilmington Star-News in North Carolina, had worked in hotspots from Haiti to Chechnya. He was named Newspaper Photographer of the Year in 2007 by Pictures of the Year International and won an Infinity award from the International Center of Photography in 2001.

Addario was part of the New York Times team that won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for international reporting and also has worked for National Geographic and Time magazine. She won a MacArthur Fellowship, or "Genius Grant," in 2009.

In September 2009, Farrell and Sultan Munadi, an Afghan journalist and interpreter who worked regularly with the Times and other news organizations, were taken hostage when they went to cover the aftermath of a NATO airstrike that killed scores of civilians in northern Afghanistan.

Munadi and a British commando died in the raid that rescued Farrell, a Briton.

Farrell also was kidnapped in 2004 in Fallujah, Iraq. He previously worked for the Times of London.

In 2008, New York Times reporter David Rohde was kidnapped while trying to make contact with a Taliban commander in Afghanistan. Rohde and an Afghan colleague escaped in June 2009 after seven months in captivity, most spent in Taliban sanctuaries in Pakistan.

The Committee to Protect Journalists says it has documented five assaults, 25 detentions and dozens of attempts to obstruct or intimidate journalists as they try to cover Libya's unrest.

Covering Libya has quickly become more dangerous for reporters than the earlier uprising in Egypt, said Joel Simon, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists. He said Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak had tried to preserve his international reputation by reining in government attacks on journalists.

"There's no such calculation going on in Libya," Simon said. "It's a very difficult, precarious situation for the press right now."

On Saturday Al-Jazeera cameraman Ali Hassan al-Jaber was killed and correspondent Baybah Wald Amhadi was wounded when their car was ambushed near Benghazi.

Last week three British Broadcasting Corp. employees were detained, beaten and subjected to mock executions by Libyan soldiers while attempting to reach the western city of Zawiya

On March 2, Libyan authorities detained reporter Andrei Netto of Brazil's Estado de S. Paulo newspaper and Ghaith Abdul-Ahad of Britain's Guardian newspaper. Netto was released on March 11, and Abdul-Ahad was released on Wednesday.

In all, there have been more than 300 attempts to intimidate or obstruct reporters since a wave of Middle East uprisings began in December in Tunisia, the Committee to Protect Journalists said.

CBS said its reporter Lara Logan was attacked and sexually assaulted in Egypt while covering reaction to Mubarak's resignation. A CNN crew including reporter Anderson Cooper was also attacked by pro-Mubarak protesters.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/4-New-York-Times-journalists-apf-3245316908.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=4&asset=&ccode=

Yep Yep. Golf and RIO are more important. After all the cisis isn't in the US.


You mean he didn't play golf when the oil spill was covering the gulf?

I am very impressed... Maybe that is why he is making up for it now.



and? how does golfing for an afternoon impact what can be done for a disaster,, most of which can be handled with EXPERIENCED people, by a phone call ..


Ever heard of the term "leadership"?

You know that thing people in high office are supposed to exert from time to time..

Obama deferred to OTHERS just like he has in every crisis.

He is a suit that reads other peoples words off a teleprompter and that is about all he is..



yeah, all of my bosses have been LEADERS of their companies but yet, I was the one they DIRECTED to do the work I WAS GOOD AT, while they did the negotiating and managing that THEY were good at

all this talk of smaller government, I find it odd that people are still expecting a president to be personally present for EVERYONES disasters,,,,there are many things to be handled that are important during an emergency that dont require one to actually BE AT THE SCENE


as of august of 2010, the president had taken 48 days off, thats 1 1/2 years into his presidency( about 30 days per year, give or take, )

compare that to Bushs 977 days in 8 years(or about 120 days per year), and I still think thats far too big a difference to truly receive the SAME scrutiny

yet, those who wish to compare as a blight to OBAMA will swear that Bush was capable of 'leading' from camp david and his ranch, yet OBAMA is not leading if he is not on SITE someplace where tragedy has struck






yea, that major tragedy in Brazil needs his attention...and i'm sure he can run the country from a foreign country...



thats interesting, I AM SURE he CAN run the country from WHEREVER he is too


technology is pretty amazing like that,,,

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/18/11 05:34 PM




how many days should he do that? should he start as soon as he hears about a tragedy? should he wait a week, two weeks? should he go when he is ASKED or INVITED to do so?

what would be the CORRECT thing for him to do , I wonder,,,
no, he should go on as many vacations as possible, not caring about the US or the world affairs...he's not paying for anything, so why not? we pay his bill, so he should take more vacations, maybe twice a month?



actually, the beloved Raegan took 335 in 8 years, that would average to over 40 per year(and he was on the low side for what is traditional)

so OBAma is really not vacationing more than all or most other presidents have,,,


Reagan didn't go on vacation when radiation is showing up in California.




so, what would a president do about alleged radiation in California that would REQUIRE him to physically be in California or even the USA?

damnitscloudy's photo
Fri 03/18/11 06:11 PM
The radiation levels are tiny in cali. Nothing to bother a President about.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/18/11 06:14 PM





how many days should he do that? should he start as soon as he hears about a tragedy? should he wait a week, two weeks? should he go when he is ASKED or INVITED to do so?

what would be the CORRECT thing for him to do , I wonder,,,
no, he should go on as many vacations as possible, not caring about the US or the world affairs...he's not paying for anything, so why not? we pay his bill, so he should take more vacations, maybe twice a month?



actually, the beloved Raegan took 335 in 8 years, that would average to over 40 per year(and he was on the low side for what is traditional)

so OBAma is really not vacationing more than all or most other presidents have,,,


Reagan didn't go on vacation when radiation is showing up in California.




so, what would a president do about alleged radiation in California that would REQUIRE him to physically be in California or even the USA?

no, he can run scared somewhere else...no reason for him to get his hands dirty

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