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Topic: Taking America BACK,,,,hmmmm?
msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 11:21 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110308/ts_yblog_theticket/ahead-of-the-2012-campaign-states-debate-voting-rights

metalwing's photo
Tue 03/08/11 12:56 PM
I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?

InvictusV's photo
Tue 03/08/11 01:30 PM
Edited by InvictusV on Tue 03/08/11 01:31 PM
I have had to show a drivers license when voting since I moved to Maryland and this state certainly isn't a bastion of conservative thinking or policy..


msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 01:33 PM

I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,

InvictusV's photo
Tue 03/08/11 01:36 PM


I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?


msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 01:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 03/08/11 01:50 PM



I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you

InvictusV's photo
Tue 03/08/11 01:54 PM




I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you



If you aren't a resident of the state you shouldn't be able to vote in that states elections.

They do have absentee ballots that you can get from the state in which you are eligible to vote so I think there is something more going on..

msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 02:27 PM





I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you



If you aren't a resident of the state you shouldn't be able to vote in that states elections.

They do have absentee ballots that you can get from the state in which you are eligible to vote so I think there is something more going on..



I would agree if RESIDENT didnt have such a subjective and state by state standard

if students attend a school and live on campus, they are affected AT THAT TIME by what is going on where they are living,,,regardless if they are legally recognized as a 'resident'

IMHO

InvictusV's photo
Tue 03/08/11 02:37 PM






I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you



If you aren't a resident of the state you shouldn't be able to vote in that states elections.

They do have absentee ballots that you can get from the state in which you are eligible to vote so I think there is something more going on..



I would agree if RESIDENT didnt have such a subjective and state by state standard

if students attend a school and live on campus, they are affected AT THAT TIME by what is going on where they are living,,,regardless if they are legally recognized as a 'resident'

IMHO


There is no reason why out of state students cannot get an absentee ballot and vote.



msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 02:46 PM







I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you



If you aren't a resident of the state you shouldn't be able to vote in that states elections.

They do have absentee ballots that you can get from the state in which you are eligible to vote so I think there is something more going on..



I would agree if RESIDENT didnt have such a subjective and state by state standard

if students attend a school and live on campus, they are affected AT THAT TIME by what is going on where they are living,,,regardless if they are legally recognized as a 'resident'

IMHO


There is no reason why out of state students cannot get an absentee ballot and vote.





but why would I vote on the issues in FLORIDA, if I live in NEVADA?

students in dorms arent just visiting a relative for a while, they are actually making their ABODE wherever they rest their head and wash their behind,,,,,

my son in Georgia will be directly impacted by the policies passed in GEORGIA, much more so than he will those passed back here in Nevada

I think he should have a voice there as long as he is LIVING there and contributing to that economy, those college towns make plenty of income off of those non resident residents in those dorms, I dont agree with them not having a voice in the community they are living


no photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:02 PM
We debated this issue on a different message board When the bill was introduced in Texas. Given the fact that voter fraud just doesn't happen, these bill are clearly intended to make it harder for certain groups to vote. In the Texas case, people were allowed to get their photo IDs for free, so it couldn't be considered to be a poll tax. After much debate, we decided that such a law was probably legal, but I had one reservation.

It would be easy to envision some zealous Texas Republican poll official looking at my picture and saying, "Hmmm. This picture doesn't look like you to me" . Then what? The picture on my driver's license is the same one that was taken 25 or 30 years ago. Do we all look the same as we looked a long time ago?

TJN's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:10 PM
Given the fact that voter fraud just doesn't happen


REALLY?

So this past midterm election when I went to my polling station to vote and my name was checked off as having voted already, That wasn't fraud?

Then what do you call it?

no photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:13 PM
It sounds like a mistake to me. I could be wrong. Did you report it to the feds?

TJN's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:19 PM
Edited by TJN on Tue 03/08/11 03:21 PM

It sounds like a mistake to me. I could be wrong. Did you report it to the feds?

It wasn't a mistake. they hade a voter number next to my name.

When you go in you tell the worker your name then they ask your address. they then verify that info with another worker seated next to them with an identical book and that person puts the number of your ballot next to your name also.

And yes I did report it to the officials that were there.

no photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:25 PM
Assuming that this actually happened, what you are describing is not voter fraud. It is election fraud. There has been tons of election fraud committed. No amount of personal identification would have prevented this.

InvictusV's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:25 PM
Edited by InvictusV on Tue 03/08/11 03:28 PM








I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you



If you aren't a resident of the state you shouldn't be able to vote in that states elections.

They do have absentee ballots that you can get from the state in which you are eligible to vote so I think there is something more going on..



I would agree if RESIDENT didnt have such a subjective and state by state standard

if students attend a school and live on campus, they are affected AT THAT TIME by what is going on where they are living,,,regardless if they are legally recognized as a 'resident'

IMHO


There is no reason why out of state students cannot get an absentee ballot and vote.





but why would I vote on the issues in FLORIDA, if I live in NEVADA?

students in dorms arent just visiting a relative for a while, they are actually making their ABODE wherever they rest their head and wash their behind,,,,,

my son in Georgia will be directly impacted by the policies passed in GEORGIA, much more so than he will those passed back here in Nevada

I think he should have a voice there as long as he is LIVING there and contributing to that economy, those college towns make plenty of income off of those non resident residents in those dorms, I dont agree with them not having a voice in the community they are living





its ridiculous..

So based on your theory if I am going to spend a month in a Las Vegas hotel and election day for the Vegas city council is the on the 3rd day of my vacation I should be entitled to vote in that election because I am paying taxes on my room and it might have implications on the rest of my stay..

Not to mention the fact that I might come back to Vegas in a few weeks and stay another month..

I should then certainly be allowed to vote..



no photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:36 PM

Registration Information

What Are the 4 Simple Steps of Voting?
Am I eligible to vote?
How do I register to vote? And when?
I just moved away to go to college, how do I vote here?
What is absentee voting and how do you do it?
Here's how you can request an absentee ballot
Once I register for the first time, do I have to do it again?
Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions

How does a political party select its nominee for the presidential election?
What is the difference between a primary, a caucus, and a convention?
When is my state's primary and when do I have to be registered by?
Why do the dates for the primaries keep changing?
What are the main political parties?
Election Day

When is the next election?
In the Midterm Election, what will I be voting on?
How will I find out where to vote on Election Day?
What should I bring with me to my polling place?
What if I never got my voter ID card in the mail or I lost it before the election?
What time do polling sites open and close?
Can I still vote if I'm in the armed forces or living abroad?
Do I have to register with a political party?
Is there anything else I need to know or do?
What Are the 4 Simple Steps of Voting?

Step 1: Register to vote.
Step 2: Find out where to vote. You'll receive your polling place information in the mail after you register. Polling places can change at the last minute, so be sure to double-check it right before Election Day.
Step 3: Become an educated voter. Check out www.DeclareYourself.com to learn more about the candidates and issues that are important to you.
Step 4: Mark your calendar for the upcoming election day and VOTE!
Am I eligible to vote?

According to the Federal Election Commission, you must:
Be a citizen of the United States
Be a resident of the state in which you're planning to register (If you just moved to a new state for school, click here to find out more about absentee voting.)
Be at least 18-years-old at the time of the next election
(Most states require a person to be 18 at least 30 days before the next election. Click here for your state's information to see if you'll be eligible.)
In addition, most states have the following two requirements. You must:
Not be imprisoned or on parole for the conviction or a felony
Not currently be judged mentally incompetent by a court of law
(Click here for your state's information to see if you'll be eligible .)
How do I register to vote? And when?

Before you can vote, you have to register to vote (except in North Dakota). Each state has a different deadline for voter registration, but in most states, you need to register at least 30 days before the election.
Simply click here to register to vote. Follow the directions for completing the form and then mail it to the address that's listed for your state's chief election official. Remember that this form is for use by people who live in or have an address within the United States. (So, if you just moved away to college, you need to be a resident (have a lease, energy bill, etc.) in order to register to vote in that state.
Also, if you are registering to vote for the first time, you must include a photocopy of a government-issued ID with your photo and address on it (a driver's license or U.S. passport will work). (If you don't have a driver's license, you can call your local election official to find out what other forms of ID will work.) This photocopy must be mailed along with your completed and signed voter registration form to your state's election office (the address already on the form).
A few states do not accept MAIL-IN voter registration forms, which means that you must register in person. The states that don't accept mailed-in voter registration forms include: New Hampshire (will only accept a mailed-in form as a request for its own absentee voter registration form) and Wyoming.
Click here to find out the voter registration deadlines and first vote rules for your state.
Make sure you understand the rules for your state. Some states have same-day registration while some states require your first vote to be in person. Click here to see the latest on your states rules to make sure your vote counts in the upcoming election!
Don't forget your ID: If you register for the first time in a state by mail, you must present ID at the polls. Just keep that photo ID with you when you go to vote, because you just might need it.
I just moved away to go to college, how do I vote here?

If you just moved to a new county or state for college, don't worry, you can still vote in the upcoming election. You just have to do things a little differently... If you're a resident of the town you live in (have a lease, utility bill in your name, etc.) you can register and vote where you currently live. If you live in on-campus housing you most likely still have residency in your home state (the address on your driver's license or ID card) and you can vote absentee. See below for more information on absentee voting. It's easy!
A little about voting and living on campus:
If you live in a dorm with a school mailbox address or get your mail at a Post Office Box address you need to do things a little differently. If you receive mail in a Post Office box you can sign an affidavit or get a letter from your college's Residential Life office, asserting that you live at your dorm address.
If you have a Post Office Box as your permanent address, your voter registration form will not be processed. There is a section on the voter registration form to put your mailing address, in addition to your physical address.
In both cases you can also register to vote absentee using your home state address. It's easy to vote absentee!


http://www.declareyourself.com/voting_faq/voting_faq_449.html#moved

msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:39 PM









I had to show photo ID to vote. What's wrong with that?



the part about college students losing their vote,,,,


Is it because they are out of state residents?




'
State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.'



if you are a college student living in the dorms from out of state (nonresident) , it basically disenfranchises you



If you aren't a resident of the state you shouldn't be able to vote in that states elections.

They do have absentee ballots that you can get from the state in which you are eligible to vote so I think there is something more going on..



I would agree if RESIDENT didnt have such a subjective and state by state standard

if students attend a school and live on campus, they are affected AT THAT TIME by what is going on where they are living,,,regardless if they are legally recognized as a 'resident'

IMHO


There is no reason why out of state students cannot get an absentee ballot and vote.





but why would I vote on the issues in FLORIDA, if I live in NEVADA?

students in dorms arent just visiting a relative for a while, they are actually making their ABODE wherever they rest their head and wash their behind,,,,,

my son in Georgia will be directly impacted by the policies passed in GEORGIA, much more so than he will those passed back here in Nevada

I think he should have a voice there as long as he is LIVING there and contributing to that economy, those college towns make plenty of income off of those non resident residents in those dorms, I dont agree with them not having a voice in the community they are living





its ridiculous..

So based on your theory if I am going to spend a month in a Las Vegas hotel and election day for the Vegas city council is the on the 3rd day of my vacation I should be entitled to vote in that election because I am paying taxes on my room and it might have implications on the rest of my stay..

Not to mention the fact that I might come back to Vegas in a few weeks and stay another month..

I should then certainly be allowed to vote..







no, I specified that they are not just VISITING, just because they are not legally called RESIDENTS, they are indeed making their HOME there for AT LEAST ten months and usually longer.

That is quite a bit different from temporarily staying in a hotel, while continuing to contribute to the economy someplace else by holding a housenote, rental note, etc,,,,,where it is reasonable to assume that what is going on there has a DIRECT impact on you as a 'RESIDENT' who actually has a permanent financial interest there,,,



msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:42 PM


Registration Information

What Are the 4 Simple Steps of Voting?
Am I eligible to vote?
How do I register to vote? And when?
I just moved away to go to college, how do I vote here?
What is absentee voting and how do you do it?
Here's how you can request an absentee ballot
Once I register for the first time, do I have to do it again?
Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions

How does a political party select its nominee for the presidential election?
What is the difference between a primary, a caucus, and a convention?
When is my state's primary and when do I have to be registered by?
Why do the dates for the primaries keep changing?
What are the main political parties?
Election Day

When is the next election?
In the Midterm Election, what will I be voting on?
How will I find out where to vote on Election Day?
What should I bring with me to my polling place?
What if I never got my voter ID card in the mail or I lost it before the election?
What time do polling sites open and close?
Can I still vote if I'm in the armed forces or living abroad?
Do I have to register with a political party?
Is there anything else I need to know or do?
What Are the 4 Simple Steps of Voting?

Step 1: Register to vote.
Step 2: Find out where to vote. You'll receive your polling place information in the mail after you register. Polling places can change at the last minute, so be sure to double-check it right before Election Day.
Step 3: Become an educated voter. Check out www.DeclareYourself.com to learn more about the candidates and issues that are important to you.
Step 4: Mark your calendar for the upcoming election day and VOTE!
Am I eligible to vote?

According to the Federal Election Commission, you must:
Be a citizen of the United States
Be a resident of the state in which you're planning to register (If you just moved to a new state for school, click here to find out more about absentee voting.)
Be at least 18-years-old at the time of the next election
(Most states require a person to be 18 at least 30 days before the next election. Click here for your state's information to see if you'll be eligible.)
In addition, most states have the following two requirements. You must:
Not be imprisoned or on parole for the conviction or a felony
Not currently be judged mentally incompetent by a court of law
(Click here for your state's information to see if you'll be eligible .)
How do I register to vote? And when?

Before you can vote, you have to register to vote (except in North Dakota). Each state has a different deadline for voter registration, but in most states, you need to register at least 30 days before the election.
Simply click here to register to vote. Follow the directions for completing the form and then mail it to the address that's listed for your state's chief election official. Remember that this form is for use by people who live in or have an address within the United States. (So, if you just moved away to college, you need to be a resident (have a lease, energy bill, etc.) in order to register to vote in that state.
Also, if you are registering to vote for the first time, you must include a photocopy of a government-issued ID with your photo and address on it (a driver's license or U.S. passport will work). (If you don't have a driver's license, you can call your local election official to find out what other forms of ID will work.) This photocopy must be mailed along with your completed and signed voter registration form to your state's election office (the address already on the form).
A few states do not accept MAIL-IN voter registration forms, which means that you must register in person. The states that don't accept mailed-in voter registration forms include: New Hampshire (will only accept a mailed-in form as a request for its own absentee voter registration form) and Wyoming.
Click here to find out the voter registration deadlines and first vote rules for your state.
Make sure you understand the rules for your state. Some states have same-day registration while some states require your first vote to be in person. Click here to see the latest on your states rules to make sure your vote counts in the upcoming election!
Don't forget your ID: If you register for the first time in a state by mail, you must present ID at the polls. Just keep that photo ID with you when you go to vote, because you just might need it.
I just moved away to go to college, how do I vote here?

If you just moved to a new county or state for college, don't worry, you can still vote in the upcoming election. You just have to do things a little differently... If you're a resident of the town you live in (have a lease, utility bill in your name, etc.) you can register and vote where you currently live. If you live in on-campus housing you most likely still have residency in your home state (the address on your driver's license or ID card) and you can vote absentee. See below for more information on absentee voting. It's easy!
A little about voting and living on campus:
If you live in a dorm with a school mailbox address or get your mail at a Post Office Box address you need to do things a little differently. If you receive mail in a Post Office box you can sign an affidavit or get a letter from your college's Residential Life office, asserting that you live at your dorm address.
If you have a Post Office Box as your permanent address, your voter registration form will not be processed. There is a section on the voter registration form to put your mailing address, in addition to your physical address.
In both cases you can also register to vote absentee using your home state address. It's easy to vote absentee!


http://www.declareyourself.com/voting_faq/voting_faq_449.html#moved




if absentee voting is the law, than thats the end of it. I just feel sorry for those students around the country who have no say in whats going on AROUND them while they try to get their education.

rlynne's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:46 PM
photo id no problems..go ahead and require it
as for exemptions based on residency(regardless of student status) do mail in ballots for where you are registered, simple if you are voting because you care and are informed all the better...

if you are voting because its a fad, i'd rather you just wag your tongue in you opinions...

the requirement of effort on a student's part doesn't seem all that bad at all... and most freshman students don't last long enough in the area to feel the pull of any local elections by the time it would transpire they would otherwise qualify for residency....or have moved..

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