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Topic: What was Hitler's religion?
Ghostrecon's photo
Mon 10/09/06 09:23 PM
He couldn't have been Christian, could he?
I think that Hitler wasn't a Christian because wasn't Jesus a Jew? That
would mean that Hitler was praising a Jew! That doesn't make sense at
all.
Hitler was a Roman Catholic.

You will find it in Mein Kampf :
"Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator.
By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's Work."

Hitler said it again at a Nazi Christmas celebration in 1926: "Christ
was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy,
the Jews ... The work that Christ started but could not finish, I --
Adolf Hitler -- will conclude."

In a Reichstag speech in 1938, Hitler again echoed the religious origins
of his crusade. "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the
Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord's
work."

Hitler regarded himself as a Catholic until he died. "I am now as before
a Catholic and will always remain so," he told Gerhard Engel, one of his
generals, in 1941.
If you read between the lines, below, you'll find that Hitler was pretty
much a Pagan, -but used christian (like) terminolgy to further his
agenda for a national identity and against the jews.

...Hitler and other Nazi leaders clearly made use of both Christian and
Pagan symbolism and emotion in propagandizing the Germanic public, and
it remains a matter of controversy whether Hitler believed himself a
Christian, a heathen, or something else entirely. Some historians have
typified Hitler as a Satanist or occultist, whereas other writers have
referred to Nazism's occasional outward use of Christian doctrine,
regardless of what its inner-party mythology may have been.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nazism_and_...
The relationship between German Nazism and religion is a controversial
area of study, with much debate centered on two key issues: the role of
Protestant and Catholic clergy and hierarchies in defending,
criticizing, or ignoring the Nazi regime and its inceasingly repressive
actions towards Jews, religious and political minorities, and others;
and the role of paganism, the occult, and mysticism in formulating the
views of Hitler and the Nazi Party. This entry looks at the German Nazi
movement between WWI and WWII. See also, Clerical fascism . For
Post-WWII matters, see Neofascism and religion

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Mon 10/09/06 09:43 PM
yes, Hitler was raised Catholic, (btw Catholicism is still considered to
be Christianity), but he wasn't a practicing man obviously, and near the
end even Catholic Priests and Bishops were being arrested and/or
persecuted.
Hitler used whatever he could, and once it no longer served his purpose,
he tended not to care what happened to it, whether it was religion or
people

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Mon 10/09/06 09:47 PM
yeah but his step dad was jewish too so i don't think he had too many
warm fuzzy places for anything...i thought i heard one time that he was
agnostic.

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Mon 10/09/06 10:03 PM
he was in a way, but oddly enough, he felt there was a place for
organized religion in society. But he,like many before and after him,
used God to commit some of the most outrageous atrocities... Look at the
European conquest of the new world. The Catholic Church was reponsible
for the slaughter of thousands of Native peoples. All under the guise of
converting them, but the reality is, they just wanted their gold. Even
this Christianity vs Islam bullshit is bullshit...Fer cryin out
loud..it's the SAME God...He must just be crying his eyes out when you
stop and think how many ppl the world over, throughout history, have
been killed in His name.

Ghostrecon's photo
Mon 10/09/06 10:06 PM
I heard he as a boy he watched his prents have sex, that's why he went
bonkers.

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Mon 10/09/06 10:08 PM
lmao i was going to say something about that but i think i should keep
it to myself

Ghostrecon's photo
Mon 10/09/06 10:14 PM
Hey, rumors some times come from reliable sources.LOL

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Mon 10/09/06 10:18 PM
not from my experience....usually either from some bitter ass bitch who
didn't like being put in their place or an arrogant egotistical asswhole
who couldn't let go of the fact that they were too stupid to see a
simple truth. sorry man but the only people that i have ever known that
would let their selves be manipulated that way were ignorant.

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Mon 10/09/06 10:19 PM
i know you were joking but i just had to put that.

Ghostrecon's photo
Mon 10/09/06 10:23 PM
It's also interesting to note:
The swastika was a universal symbol of good fortune.

The swastika (from Sanskrit svastika, from su "well", and asti "being",
thus "good fortune" or "well-being") is an equilateral cross with its
arms bent at right angles in either left-facing or right-facing
direction. The swastika is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism and
Jainism. The Hindu version is often decorated with a dot in each
quadrant.

However, in the Western world, it is most widely known and used as a
symbol of Nazism (the Hakenkreuz (hook-cross)) and this political
association has eclipsed its historical status as the fylfot.

Lots of symbols are once represented good, now are a reputed.

ysrider's photo
Tue 10/10/06 12:05 PM
You interested me in researching this more. He was a Christian, sort
of, but he also did not, along with many of the Nazi party, appreciate
country and the party coming first. He tended to recognize the need for
religion in Germany, and that many of the people of Germany were
christians and he could use that as tools against the Jews. He also
modeled his own beliefs similar to Catholic, as it was his background
from childhood, and new it and its concepts well.

Truely he is not what anyone would call a Christian though, obviously.
Also, regarding Jesus being a Jew, this is an odd point to make - what
else could he be in those times. He couldn't have believed in himself
yet. There were not Christian yet, so he could not have been called
that in that time. In reality he was a Jew who became the founder of a
new religion, which really made him the first Jewish to Christain
convert. In that light, Hitler could admire Jesus. I know, that is a
stretch.

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Tue 10/10/06 12:21 PM
hitler was an evil person buit he was also a very intelligent and
powerful speaker who was masterful at manipulating masses of people by
playing on their emotions. i don't think he honestly believed in GOD but
he may have. that is some good info recon. i've seen it before and alot
of people don't realize where it comes from. it's strange how one person
can completely change the course of history. if you take a look at the
population in germany during those years most people did not agree with
hitlers beliefs but he didn't make them very apparent until it was too
late, they fell for the slick talk. it's kind of like the deal with
history books, most of what is in the history books is a farce. it
doesn't change the truth about what happened but it relies on stupid
people or the misinformed for it's survival.

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Tue 10/10/06 08:25 PM
Actually part of Hitler's platform was to lower the unemployment rate,
which he did, albeit to create the war machine he used. He brought
inflation way down and stregthened the Deutscmark(sp) and at that point
renamed it the Reichmark. Even as late as mid 1944, the avergae German
did his 8 hour shift in the factory, very few women were working to
produce the machineries of war and for the most part, most of their
necessities and luxuries were still in place. Rationing didn't come
until late in the war. Now of course he did use millions in slave
labour, but the majority of them did NOT work in the factories. If
Hitler had prepared Germany for total war like the allies did, the
outcome might have been very different. But Hitler's intelligence was
also his weakness. As with most, if not all, megalomaniacs, he thought
he was infallible. He believed that the sheer determination of his will
would see Germany through even though his armies were "giving up". He
refused to allow even the smallest units to move without his ok first,
and almost always refused his armies the chance to pull back to more
defensible positions after they got over-extended.
His firm belief in astology and his belief that God had ordained him to
be the next Charlemagne made him impossible to deal with in military
matters.
If you want to get a good look inside Germany during the Hitler years, I
highly recommened reading, "Inside the Third Reich" by Albert Speer,
Hitler's architect and later his Armaments Minister.

AlpineRocks's photo
Tue 10/10/06 08:47 PM
he's right there are 2 different swazies arms bent to the right or arms
bent to the left but Hitler was an antichrist according to Nostrodamus
and I tend to agree his invention of meth amphedamine is still killing
people today and he's dead

Ghostrecon's photo
Tue 10/10/06 09:19 PM
well, I don't necessarily believe that Hitler was a Chirstian. I think
he just used the power of religion to his means. I think of Napolian and
see Hitler as the same. Nopolian said that religion was great stuff to
contol the masses. He would use what ever religion that had the most
inflence. But I stop there. I don't believe niether he nor Hitler really
cared about religion in general, just that it was a tool to his own
power.

The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman
Catholic until the day he died. In fact, Hitler rejected Christianity.

The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar,
Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of
Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title,
_Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford
University Press paperback edition in the United States.

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:


Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:


National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest
blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity.
Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of
the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced
into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity
brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural
order of things. (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:


Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against
nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the
systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:


The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When
understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian
doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the
peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will
collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it
to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it
that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the
interests of the State. (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night:


The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that
it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

21st October, 1941, midday:


Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the
destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work
of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal
exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle
Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was
in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism.
Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul
was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating
this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have
no idea. (p 63-65)

13th December, 1941, midnight:


Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing
more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the
Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to
wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the
drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against
the disease. (p 118 & 119)


14th December, 1941, midday:


Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between
National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's
possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure
Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with
translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the
annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a
tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner:


There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)

27th February, 1942, midday:


It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man
who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his
imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself
deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never
come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next
200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity....
My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)

Source:
http://www.answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html

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Fri 11/02/07 07:42 PM
Hitler was born Jewish but he was heavy into The occult,some say that he thought of him self as The Christ, he resented The Zionest for selling him out and he took vngace on he jewish poor, but he did not kill 6,000000 that is a Zionest Lie to mask the fact that the Ryssian Jews killed 120,000000 other people in Russia after WW2...

It's all to cover someones BUTT...

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Fri 11/02/07 09:44 PM
Interesting topic.

Another interesting thing about Hitler: he wasn't a right-winger in politics. He was a socialist LEFT-winger.

Funny though that a lot of people now compare right-wing politicians to Hitler as an insult. More appropriately, left-wing socialist could be compared to Hitler as an insult.

Wonder where the misconception came from?


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Fri 11/02/07 09:49 PM
I thought his religion was stupidassologyhuh

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Fri 11/02/07 09:56 PM
you got that right sincere

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Fri 11/02/07 10:19 PM
Ummmm..... someone who murdered 6 million Jews, I don't think they had ANY religion.. noway

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