Topic: Aliens or Demons?
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Fri 03/04/11 11:29 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/04/11 11:56 AM
For two years I followed investigations into strange mysteries and they all seemed to lead towards the existence of aliens, UFO's etc. Eventually I stopped ignoring the evidence.

At some point in my journey (to find aliens) I decided NOT to continue the search because I suspect that aliens and demons or "fallen angels" are basically the same thing.

(And who in their right mind would want to uncover a nest of demons?)

In this video, a Christian ministry talks about Tom Horn's new book called Nephilim Stargate. An interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc

Okay they seem to suggest that the Nephilim were the fallen angels who mated with human women and corrupted human DNA so that they would be able to incarnate into the resulting hybred form.

So what is the difference between "aliens" and "angels?"

One might say that aliens come from other planets, and angels come from another dimension, but your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps some of these creatures have learned to traverse dimensions.

If you are a Christian who believes in angels (good or bad) and the devil, why is it such a stretch to acknowledge aliens and UFO's?

Most of the population will be shocked if you deny that you believe in God, and laugh at you if you say you believe in aliens. How strange is that?

In the video below Tom Horn speaks about the human body and how only the human spirit can enter and occupy it, and that might be why the aliens (or fallen angels) mated with and/or engineered their DNA into the human population -- so they could incarnate into that form.

Also the idea that the "flesh" is corrupted, according to his idea, has to do with the DNA corruption.

Then J.R. Church ends with a sermon about accepting Jesus as your personal savior so you can be saved, which didn't seem to make much sense in the conversation. He stated that you are either "for or against" Jesus. (He sounded like George Bush.)

How can praying and asking Jesus to be your savior help?

If Lucifer and Michael (who some say is Jesus) were basically the same kind of angel before Lucifer was tossed out of heaven then they are sort of on the same level except that one is a rebel and the other is still in good graces with the head guy.

So are we dealing with dimensional aliens or demons and angels? I think whatever they are, they amount to the same thing.


What do you think??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc


Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 03/05/11 06:58 AM

For two years I followed investigations into strange mysteries and they all seemed to lead towards the existence of aliens, UFO's etc. Eventually I stopped ignoring the evidence.

At some point in my journey (to find aliens) I decided NOT to continue the search because I suspect that aliens and demons or "fallen angels" are basically the same thing.

(And who in their right mind would want to uncover a nest of demons?)

In this video, a Christian ministry talks about Tom Horn's new book called Nephilim Stargate. An interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc

Okay they seem to suggest that the Nephilim were the fallen angels who mated with human women and corrupted human DNA so that they would be able to incarnate into the resulting hybred form.

So what is the difference between "aliens" and "angels?"

One might say that aliens come from other planets, and angels come from another dimension, but your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps some of these creatures have learned to traverse dimensions.

If you are a Christian who believes in angels (good or bad) and the devil, why is it such a stretch to acknowledge aliens and UFO's?

Most of the population will be shocked if you deny that you believe in God, and laugh at you if you say you believe in aliens. How strange is that?

In the video below Tom Horn speaks about the human body and how only the human spirit can enter and occupy it, and that might be why the aliens (or fallen angels) mated with and/or engineered their DNA into the human population -- so they could incarnate into that form.

Also the idea that the "flesh" is corrupted, according to his idea, has to do with the DNA corruption.

Then J.R. Church ends with a sermon about accepting Jesus as your personal savior so you can be saved, which didn't seem to make much sense in the conversation. He stated that you are either "for or against" Jesus. (He sounded like George Bush.)

How can praying and asking Jesus to be your savior help?

If Lucifer and Michael (who some say is Jesus) were basically the same kind of angel before Lucifer was tossed out of heaven then they are sort of on the same level except that one is a rebel and the other is still in good graces with the head guy.

So are we dealing with dimensional aliens or demons and angels? I think whatever they are, they amount to the same thing.


What do you think??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc






Demons and angels take on human form. I do not believe the mating of humans with fallen angels the..Nephilim..

a couple of reason why I do not is thier ois not a 2nd witness account spoken about this other than Gen 6.

Yahshua when asked about marraige in heaven he said you do not understand the angels niether marry or are given in marraige.

The other says that Adam was made in the image of Yahweh and Yahshua. Then we see they decide to give him a helpmate. This is grossely misunderstood as the Hebrew word for tanslated rib to english is Tesla.

Every account where Tesla is translated elsewhere it is translate as Chamber or womb. not rib.

This makes much more since as if Adam had a womb also and this is what was taken from him. then he would need to be sewn back up as the scriptures say he was.

So in essence we come up with the translation woman may really be Womb man and this is why the 2 come together in marraige and become as 1 as adam was one in the beginning and a marraige is a bond of this originally perfect man. Just my take and these reasons is why i believe the (Nephilim) was added and why Yahweh says for something to be true it must have a second witness.. Blessings..Miles


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Sat 03/05/11 07:24 AM
Surey this has to be false.

There are no supposed "Angels" only evolved clowns!

You see after the ultimate party favor went off it opened up tears in the fabric of space and time called "RIPS" Some of the clowns floated into the "RIPS" and evolved into pure energy!

They often times "Cross over" to see what we are doing here on earth. Some clowns are evil! These are the demon clowns. The one's on earth have evolved into the sad clowns we sometimes see around us.

Other clowns are good! These are the angelic one's! They are currently at war with the evil one's.

Now yes some wandered onto other planets and gave birth to alien races. But these creatures are still under "Clown care" and have only the knowledge to make clown cars and oversized shoes. They cannot yet move from one planet to another.

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Sat 03/05/11 07:58 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 03/05/11 08:10 AM
Milesoftheusa,

Did you watch the video?
Thats an interesting translation I hadn't heard about the "rib" was really a "womb."
As for a 2nd witness, there are other books that spoke of the Gods mating with human women. I think the book of Enoch.

But are you saying now that anything in the Bible can be taken as false if there is not a second witness? Interesting.

*******

Other stories:

There is also the story that the "angels" or the beings used to create humans, have the organs of both male and female and that humans were split into male and female so that they would have a need for each other and procreate much faster, as the alien beings were trying to create a slave race on the earth.

Today the children that are born with both male and female parts have been called "angel children." They say that the DNA is returning to the original state. I find that very interesting.

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Sat 03/05/11 08:05 AM
ShiningArmour,

My idea about clowns is this. (seriously)

Some people have a fear of clowns. This may not be just because of certain horror movies about bad clowns.

Clowns originally charmed and attracted children. This unique ability became useful for child predators who wanted to attract and abduct children and it was also useful that the clown's face was hidden. Serial killer John Wayne Gacey is an example who worked as a clown. I imagine that came in handy in meeting young boys.

Also, many alien abductions of children and even adults involved the clown character or Disney characters. I suspect the Micky Mouse character to be a child molester or abductor. I think the MK Ultra mind control project used clowns and Disney characters to terrorize and traumatize children in their mind control methods that split the psyche.


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Sat 03/05/11 08:12 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 03/05/11 08:13 AM
Milesoftheusa,

Demons and angels take on human form.


If this is true, do you have an idea of how they might be able to do this? A theory of some kind? Are angels and demons from another dimension? If so how to they become physical or traverse dimensions? What exactly is the difference between an angel and a demon?

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Sat 03/05/11 08:28 AM

ShiningArmour,

My idea about clowns is this. (seriously)

Some people have a fear of clowns. This may not be just because of certain horror movies about bad clowns.

Clowns originally charmed and attracted children. This unique ability became useful for child predators who wanted to attract and abduct children and it was also useful that the clown's face was hidden. Serial killer John Wayne Gacey is an example who worked as a clown. I imagine that came in handy in meeting young boys.

Also, many alien abductions of children and even adults involved the clown character or Disney characters. I suspect the Micky Mouse character to be a child molester or abductor. I think the MK Ultra mind control project used clowns and Disney characters to terrorize and traumatize children in their mind control methods that split the psyche.




Truly.

You see my point then?

As I stated above some clowns are in fact evil. They do attempt to murder and abduct children.

This comes from the ancient clowns abusing the offspring. Some did not want to give birth to humans or even other clowns.

We see this today as you just said manny of the alien abductions involved clowns! This changes my whole theory about the technology that these creatures have evolved!

I can see you and I share this theory.

Why is it do you think that the clowns from outer space want to abduct the children?

One theory is that they want to impose forced labor on other planets where there are no child labor laws! Then they can build their massive carnivals and clown cities at little to no charge!

What are your thoughts on this?

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Mon 03/14/11 12:34 PM

Milesoftheusa,

Demons and angels take on human form.


If this is true, do you have an idea of how they might be able to do this? A theory of some kind? Are angels and demons from another dimension? If so how to they become physical or traverse dimensions? What exactly is the difference between an angel and a demon?


Shalom.

Sorry my grandchildren and daughter just moved to be out by me so been really busy.

The spirit world is in like another dimenision. just like a rainbow the colors are always thier but we only see them when conditions are right.

Now angels from what i know only show themselves when Yahweh says they aare to like a command. Paul said thier were angels all around us all the time. I believe this.. we stop for no reason and suddenly a rock flls in front of us where if we would of not stopped we might of been hurt or killed. we think this is just happen stance but for one reason or another I believe an angel causes us to stop till the danger is passed. i can not count the times i have had this happen.. or take a wrong road that i know really well but for some reason i missed my turn off then when i turn around an accident happened and i very likely would of been in one if i would not of missed my road.. i believe this is the spirit world protecting us. i am sure everyone can think of times like this they just though WOW was i lucky.. could be luck but my belief is i was protected.

Demons from what scripture says usually only enter humans and make them do the oppisite if they are playing around and ask demons to come into them for power or whatever reason.. this is very dangerous.. we see when Yahshua spoke to the man who was possessed with the demon who said his name was Legion which means he had many demons in him and Yahshua allowed them to leave him and enter a herd of pigs.. they went crazy and drowned themselves. animals seem to beable to see or understand other deminsions that scientists can not explain like when disaster hits. when the tusami hit in 2005 that killed thousands of eople.. from t i remember found one dead animals.. the locals said all of a sudden the animals took off and headed for high ground.. an elephant even saved a family because thier son was riding one and he all of asudden took off and saved all of them because they took off chsing him.. so we do not see what or hear what or feel what animals can. but angels Paul said that to treat everyone with respect especially the stranger because you never kno when you might be in the company of an angel. so they are here IMO.. hope this helps will get back with more when i get time but my grandkids are o excited they are wearing me out.. maybe i will loose some wieght.laugh drinker flowerforyou

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Mon 03/14/11 12:41 PM

For two years I followed investigations into strange mysteries and they all seemed to lead towards the existence of aliens, UFO's etc. Eventually I stopped ignoring the evidence.

At some point in my journey (to find aliens) I decided NOT to continue the search because I suspect that aliens and demons or "fallen angels" are basically the same thing.

(And who in their right mind would want to uncover a nest of demons?)

In this video, a Christian ministry talks about Tom Horn's new book called Nephilim Stargate. An interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc

Okay they seem to suggest that the Nephilim were the fallen angels who mated with human women and corrupted human DNA so that they would be able to incarnate into the resulting hybred form.

So what is the difference between "aliens" and "angels?"

One might say that aliens come from other planets, and angels come from another dimension, but your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps some of these creatures have learned to traverse dimensions.

If you are a Christian who believes in angels (good or bad) and the devil, why is it such a stretch to acknowledge aliens and UFO's?

Most of the population will be shocked if you deny that you believe in God, and laugh at you if you say you believe in aliens. How strange is that?

In the video below Tom Horn speaks about the human body and how only the human spirit can enter and occupy it, and that might be why the aliens (or fallen angels) mated with and/or engineered their DNA into the human population -- so they could incarnate into that form.

Also the idea that the "flesh" is corrupted, according to his idea, has to do with the DNA corruption.

Then J.R. Church ends with a sermon about accepting Jesus as your personal savior so you can be saved, which didn't seem to make much sense in the conversation. He stated that you are either "for or against" Jesus. (He sounded like George Bush.)

How can praying and asking Jesus to be your savior help?

If Lucifer and Michael (who some say is Jesus) were basically the same kind of angel before Lucifer was tossed out of heaven then they are sort of on the same level except that one is a rebel and the other is still in good graces with the head guy.

So are we dealing with dimensional aliens or demons and angels? I think whatever they are, they amount to the same thing.


What do you think??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc




I think fascination with technology (flying objects) is purely human and that , if aliens exist, they are only us in perhaps a different dimension and form, trying to screw around with time and play God again,,lol


I think there are aliens and demons and I believe some angels did mate with humans,,,

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Wed 03/16/11 09:08 AM


For two years I followed investigations into strange mysteries and they all seemed to lead towards the existence of aliens, UFO's etc. Eventually I stopped ignoring the evidence.

At some point in my journey (to find aliens) I decided NOT to continue the search because I suspect that aliens and demons or "fallen angels" are basically the same thing.

(And who in their right mind would want to uncover a nest of demons?)

In this video, a Christian ministry talks about Tom Horn's new book called Nephilim Stargate. An interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc

Okay they seem to suggest that the Nephilim were the fallen angels who mated with human women and corrupted human DNA so that they would be able to incarnate into the resulting hybred form.

So what is the difference between "aliens" and "angels?"

One might say that aliens come from other planets, and angels come from another dimension, but your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps some of these creatures have learned to traverse dimensions.

If you are a Christian who believes in angels (good or bad) and the devil, why is it such a stretch to acknowledge aliens and UFO's?

Most of the population will be shocked if you deny that you believe in God, and laugh at you if you say you believe in aliens. How strange is that?

In the video below Tom Horn speaks about the human body and how only the human spirit can enter and occupy it, and that might be why the aliens (or fallen angels) mated with and/or engineered their DNA into the human population -- so they could incarnate into that form.

Also the idea that the "flesh" is corrupted, according to his idea, has to do with the DNA corruption.

Then J.R. Church ends with a sermon about accepting Jesus as your personal savior so you can be saved, which didn't seem to make much sense in the conversation. He stated that you are either "for or against" Jesus. (He sounded like George Bush.)

How can praying and asking Jesus to be your savior help?

If Lucifer and Michael (who some say is Jesus) were basically the same kind of angel before Lucifer was tossed out of heaven then they are sort of on the same level except that one is a rebel and the other is still in good graces with the head guy.

So are we dealing with dimensional aliens or demons and angels? I think whatever they are, they amount to the same thing.


What do you think??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc




I think fascination with technology (flying objects) is purely human and that , if aliens exist, they are only us in perhaps a different dimension and form, trying to screw around with time and play God again,,lol


I think there are aliens and demons and I believe some angels did mate with humans,,,


They mated with humans!? Where do you get this? I'm interested to find out how people come up with this idea.

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Wed 03/16/11 09:55 AM
They mated with humans!? Where do you get this? I'm interested to find out how people come up with this idea.


It is written an several ancient texts to include the Bible.
It is said that angels have both male and female organs.

Those genes are surfacing more and more, and humans are being born with both male and female organs. More than you would know about, because doctors will correct the problem at birth. Hence why some people are gender confused. This condition is not the same thing as being gay.

There are also cases of humans born with tails and even horns. These are genes from the orion race, the Draconians.


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Wed 03/16/11 12:07 PM

They mated with humans!? Where do you get this? I'm interested to find out how people come up with this idea.


It is written an several ancient texts to include the Bible.
It is said that angels have both male and female organs.

Those genes are surfacing more and more, and humans are being born with both male and female organs. More than you would know about, because doctors will correct the problem at birth. Hence why some people are gender confused. This condition is not the same thing as being gay.

There are also cases of humans born with tails and even horns. These are genes from the orion race, the Draconians.




slaphead So now your saying that aliens got it on with human beings?
Your kidding right? whoa

Aliens are nothing more than modern day folklore. They are NOT real. Angels cannot mate with people because they are spirits and the people are flesh. It's also been said that there is no gender in the spirit. Don't know if that's true or not.

I've never seen an alien and there's no proof of aliens out there scientific or otherwise!

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Fri 03/18/11 12:05 AM
the book of enoch, while not part of the cannonized bible, does talk in depth about the brief blurb in Gen. 6. I for one, believe that angels and demons are both types of aliens. In fact, ancient Sumerian clay tablets seem to back this theory up with the oldest recorded history ever. Look up Enki.

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Fri 03/18/11 01:51 AM
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

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Sat 03/19/11 11:07 AM

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.




Shalom..

I am curious. If you equate "sons of God" in this verse to Angels/Demons. Then who is Yahshua? Is he the same? Blessings...Miles

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Sat 03/19/11 11:30 AM



For two years I followed investigations into strange mysteries and they all seemed to lead towards the existence of aliens, UFO's etc. Eventually I stopped ignoring the evidence.

At some point in my journey (to find aliens) I decided NOT to continue the search because I suspect that aliens and demons or "fallen angels" are basically the same thing.

(And who in their right mind would want to uncover a nest of demons?)

In this video, a Christian ministry talks about Tom Horn's new book called Nephilim Stargate. An interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc

Okay they seem to suggest that the Nephilim were the fallen angels who mated with human women and corrupted human DNA so that they would be able to incarnate into the resulting hybred form.

So what is the difference between "aliens" and "angels?"

One might say that aliens come from other planets, and angels come from another dimension, but your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps some of these creatures have learned to traverse dimensions.

If you are a Christian who believes in angels (good or bad) and the devil, why is it such a stretch to acknowledge aliens and UFO's?

Most of the population will be shocked if you deny that you believe in God, and laugh at you if you say you believe in aliens. How strange is that?

In the video below Tom Horn speaks about the human body and how only the human spirit can enter and occupy it, and that might be why the aliens (or fallen angels) mated with and/or engineered their DNA into the human population -- so they could incarnate into that form.

Also the idea that the "flesh" is corrupted, according to his idea, has to do with the DNA corruption.

Then J.R. Church ends with a sermon about accepting Jesus as your personal savior so you can be saved, which didn't seem to make much sense in the conversation. He stated that you are either "for or against" Jesus. (He sounded like George Bush.)

How can praying and asking Jesus to be your savior help?

If Lucifer and Michael (who some say is Jesus) were basically the same kind of angel before Lucifer was tossed out of heaven then they are sort of on the same level except that one is a rebel and the other is still in good graces with the head guy.

So are we dealing with dimensional aliens or demons and angels? I think whatever they are, they amount to the same thing.


What do you think??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZD5Uomw3fc




I think fascination with technology (flying objects) is purely human and that , if aliens exist, they are only us in perhaps a different dimension and form, trying to screw around with time and play God again,,lol


I think there are aliens and demons and I believe some angels did mate with humans,,,


They mated with humans!? Where do you get this? I'm interested to find out how people come up with this idea.


tv...where else?

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Sat 03/19/11 11:42 AM


4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.




Shalom..

I am curious. If you equate "sons of God" in this verse to Angels/Demons. Then who is Yahshua? Is he the same? Blessings...Miles


In Job who is Yahweh speaking of?

Job 1:6-7

Now there was a day when the sons of Elohim came to present themselves before Yahweh, and Satan also came among them. 7 And Yahweh said to Satan, "From where do you come?"
NKJV
Do you understand this verse. Its speaking of the same people.. Shalom...Miles

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Sat 03/19/11 02:09 PM


4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.




Shalom..

I am curious. If you equate "sons of God" in this verse to Angels/Demons. Then who is Yahshua? Is he the same? Blessings...Miles



I think Yahshua was a hybred. Part human part alien. But a good alien.bigsmile


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Sat 03/19/11 02:12 PM
There are several (many) kinds of humanoids in the universe. Some look more human, with blond hair and blue eyes. Some are hideous looking creatures. The draconian royalty have horns, a tail and wings. Their image is where I believe the idea of "the devil" comes from.

They are ruled, in the galaxy, by a female queen and they worship her as a God.