Topic: The Donald Goes to Iowa!
msharmony's photo
Sun 03/06/11 03:12 PM





Not to mention a lawyer would know that. Both Clinton and his wife were lawyers, they knew what they were doing and knew they were committing a crime.

Not to mention when they ordered the assassination of Vince Foster and the cover up, they knew that it was a crime and knew what they were doing. He is lucky he only got nailed on purgury and not capitol murder and conspiracy.




they ordered an assassination? when was that proven? why arent they in jail?




It's pretty easy to get away with it when you appoint the head of the FBI and the Attorney General.

The first FBI Agents who arrived on the scene he was killed by a rifle from a distance. They were immediately pulled from the case by the Attorney General. Not to mention the federal agents who sealed off his office and removed files BEFORE it was found he was dead.

Then theres the fact he was having an affair with Hillary for years.

Oh, I almost forgot he was going to meet with investigators the next day to blow the whistle on Clinton.





the inside information in these threads is always so impressive,,,lol

if only all those people who make their living investigating people and enforcing laws had access to all this factual evidence, the world would be a much more law abiding place


[sarcasm]


Inside information? It's public information. Two of the Agents came forward and it cost them their careers.



its public SPECULATION, different standard than PROOF...

KerryO's photo
Sun 03/06/11 05:44 PM

Not to mention if he just manned up to it, it would have been over and done with, nothing they could do to him.


I agree completely. And I never stopped disliking Bill Clinton for giving progressives a bad name just because he couldn't control his libido.

But that's also why I could never vote for Trump. He has a similar kind of arrogance when it comes to dealing with people who have less power than he does. Even though he's far from squeaky clean himself.


-Kerry O.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 06:49 PM


Not to mention if he just manned up to it, it would have been over and done with, nothing they could do to him.


I agree completely. And I never stopped disliking Bill Clinton for giving progressives a bad name just because he couldn't control his libido.

But that's also why I could never vote for Trump. He has a similar kind of arrogance when it comes to dealing with people who have less power than he does. Even though he's far from squeaky clean himself.


-Kerry O.


The difference when Trump screws up, he man's up about it.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 06:52 PM






Not to mention a lawyer would know that. Both Clinton and his wife were lawyers, they knew what they were doing and knew they were committing a crime.

Not to mention when they ordered the assassination of Vince Foster and the cover up, they knew that it was a crime and knew what they were doing. He is lucky he only got nailed on purgury and not capitol murder and conspiracy.




they ordered an assassination? when was that proven? why arent they in jail?




It's pretty easy to get away with it when you appoint the head of the FBI and the Attorney General.

The first FBI Agents who arrived on the scene he was killed by a rifle from a distance. They were immediately pulled from the case by the Attorney General. Not to mention the federal agents who sealed off his office and removed files BEFORE it was found he was dead.

Then theres the fact he was having an affair with Hillary for years.

Oh, I almost forgot he was going to meet with investigators the next day to blow the whistle on Clinton.





the inside information in these threads is always so impressive,,,lol

if only all those people who make their living investigating people and enforcing laws had access to all this factual evidence, the world would be a much more law abiding place


[sarcasm]


Inside information? It's public information. Two of the Agents came forward and it cost them their careers.



its public SPECULATION, different standard than PROOF...


I guess two highly trained FBI Agents, (FBI Agents go through more training then ANY other law enforcement agency in the world) wouldn't know how to tell the difference between suicide and homicide. Hell I could probably tell the difference.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/06/11 06:58 PM







Not to mention a lawyer would know that. Both Clinton and his wife were lawyers, they knew what they were doing and knew they were committing a crime.

Not to mention when they ordered the assassination of Vince Foster and the cover up, they knew that it was a crime and knew what they were doing. He is lucky he only got nailed on purgury and not capitol murder and conspiracy.




they ordered an assassination? when was that proven? why arent they in jail?




It's pretty easy to get away with it when you appoint the head of the FBI and the Attorney General.

The first FBI Agents who arrived on the scene he was killed by a rifle from a distance. They were immediately pulled from the case by the Attorney General. Not to mention the federal agents who sealed off his office and removed files BEFORE it was found he was dead.

Then theres the fact he was having an affair with Hillary for years.

Oh, I almost forgot he was going to meet with investigators the next day to blow the whistle on Clinton.





the inside information in these threads is always so impressive,,,lol

if only all those people who make their living investigating people and enforcing laws had access to all this factual evidence, the world would be a much more law abiding place


[sarcasm]


Inside information? It's public information. Two of the Agents came forward and it cost them their careers.



its public SPECULATION, different standard than PROOF...


I guess two highly trained FBI Agents, (FBI Agents go through more training then ANY other law enforcement agency in the world) wouldn't know how to tell the difference between suicide and homicide. Hell I could probably tell the difference.



I guess just you and those two fbi agents then,, seeing that prosecutor STARR found nothing to prove the allegation,,

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 07:18 PM








Not to mention a lawyer would know that. Both Clinton and his wife were lawyers, they knew what they were doing and knew they were committing a crime.

Not to mention when they ordered the assassination of Vince Foster and the cover up, they knew that it was a crime and knew what they were doing. He is lucky he only got nailed on purgury and not capitol murder and conspiracy.




they ordered an assassination? when was that proven? why arent they in jail?




It's pretty easy to get away with it when you appoint the head of the FBI and the Attorney General.

The first FBI Agents who arrived on the scene he was killed by a rifle from a distance. They were immediately pulled from the case by the Attorney General. Not to mention the federal agents who sealed off his office and removed files BEFORE it was found he was dead.

Then theres the fact he was having an affair with Hillary for years.

Oh, I almost forgot he was going to meet with investigators the next day to blow the whistle on Clinton.





the inside information in these threads is always so impressive,,,lol

if only all those people who make their living investigating people and enforcing laws had access to all this factual evidence, the world would be a much more law abiding place


[sarcasm]


Inside information? It's public information. Two of the Agents came forward and it cost them their careers.



its public SPECULATION, different standard than PROOF...


I guess two highly trained FBI Agents, (FBI Agents go through more training then ANY other law enforcement agency in the world) wouldn't know how to tell the difference between suicide and homicide. Hell I could probably tell the difference.



I guess just you and those two fbi agents then,, seeing that prosecutor STARR found nothing to prove the allegation,,


It wasn't even looked into thanks to the cover-up provided by Janet Reno.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/06/11 07:33 PM
There have been three official investigations into Foster's death, all of which concluded that he committed suicide.[17]

The first was by the United States Park Police in 1993, in whose jurisdiction the original investigation fell. Due to Foster's position in the White House, the Federal Bureau of Investigation assisted in the investigation. Investigations by a coroner and Independent Counsel Robert B. Fiske, in a 58-page report released in 1994, also concluded that Foster had committed suicide.[12] Conspiracy theories of a cover-up still persisted, some of which were promulgated by the Arkansas Project. After a three-year investigation, Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth Starr[18][19] released a report in 1997 also concluding that the death was a suicide.[12]

In addition, two investigations by the U.S. Congress found that Foster committed suicide.[12]



from wikipedia



Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 08:43 PM

There have been three official investigations into Foster's death, all of which concluded that he committed suicide.[17]

The first was by the United States Park Police in 1993, in whose jurisdiction the original investigation fell. Due to Foster's position in the White House, the Federal Bureau of Investigation assisted in the investigation. Investigations by a coroner and Independent Counsel Robert B. Fiske, in a 58-page report released in 1994, also concluded that Foster had committed suicide.[12] Conspiracy theories of a cover-up still persisted, some of which were promulgated by the Arkansas Project. After a three-year investigation, Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth Starr[18][19] released a report in 1997 also concluding that the death was a suicide.[12]

In addition, two investigations by the U.S. Congress found that Foster committed suicide.[12]



from wikipedia





All the investigations were after the FBI, CIA and Secret Service cleaned up a crime scene. Of course they went no where.

There is no such things as coincidence, especially multiple ones.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/06/11 09:55 PM
of courselaugh

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 10:20 PM
Not a laughing matter.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/06/11 10:22 PM
not the issue, its the debate styles and inconsistencies which cause me to chuckle...laugh

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 10:25 PM
You protecting you Liberal polititians on every post? Yup, pretty funny.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/06/11 10:39 PM

You protecting you Liberal polititians on every post? Yup, pretty funny.





nothing personal,,,,laugh

I try to be realistic and consistent, thats all
when I see people attacking others, without reasonable support, I post what I can find that is actually RESEARCHABLE and DOCUMENTED,,,


Ive done it for liberals and conservatives alike, Im sure

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/06/11 10:41 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 03/06/11 10:41 PM
I've never seen you defend a Liberal.

There is plenty of hard evidence to prove Clinton is\was a scumbag.

KerryO's photo
Mon 03/07/11 12:26 AM



Not to mention if he just manned up to it, it would have been over and done with, nothing they could do to him.


I agree completely. And I never stopped disliking Bill Clinton for giving progressives a bad name just because he couldn't control his libido.

But that's also why I could never vote for Trump. He has a similar kind of arrogance when it comes to dealing with people who have less power than he does. Even though he's far from squeaky clean himself.


-Kerry O.


The difference when Trump screws up, he man's up about it.


I don't agree at all. The whole idea behind corporations is to limit personal liability, and Trump has repeatedly hidden behind the corporate veil and the bankruptcy laws to remain a wealthy man even as his corporations crater.

In short, he was born with a sliver spoon in his mouth and he stacks the deck so as to limit the amount of skin he has in the game. Contrast him to the average foot soldier who has ALL their skin in the game, and I don't think there's any comparison.

Sorry, IMO, his big mouth, flamboyance and lousy track record make him tempermentally unsuitable for the office he is seeking. He won't be getting my vote any time soon.

-Kerry O.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 03/07/11 01:02 AM




Not to mention if he just manned up to it, it would have been over and done with, nothing they could do to him.


I agree completely. And I never stopped disliking Bill Clinton for giving progressives a bad name just because he couldn't control his libido.

But that's also why I could never vote for Trump. He has a similar kind of arrogance when it comes to dealing with people who have less power than he does. Even though he's far from squeaky clean himself.


-Kerry O.


The difference when Trump screws up, he man's up about it.


I don't agree at all. The whole idea behind corporations is to limit personal liability, and Trump has repeatedly hidden behind the corporate veil and the bankruptcy laws to remain a wealthy man even as his corporations crater.

In short, he was born with a sliver spoon in his mouth and he stacks the deck so as to limit the amount of skin he has in the game. Contrast him to the average foot soldier who has ALL their skin in the game, and I don't think there's any comparison.

Sorry, IMO, his big mouth, flamboyance and lousy track record make him tempermentally unsuitable for the office he is seeking. He won't be getting my vote any time soon.

-Kerry O.


He pulled himself out of bankrupcy each time and didn't lie about it unlike Clinton when every new allegation with every new girl came up he lied about it and was found out later.

KerryO's photo
Mon 03/07/11 03:00 AM



He pulled himself out of bankrupcy each time and didn't lie about it unlike Clinton when every new allegation with every new girl came up he lied about it and was found out later.


How CAN one lie about a bankruptcy???? You have to go public to a courtroom and ask a judge to _protect_ you or your corporation from those to whom you owe money AND CAN'T PAY!!! In Trump's cases, it looked to me like it was a clear example of poor judgement through overextending the finances and letting the chips fall where they may.

I went through 2 major illnesses with inadequate insurance, I was in business for myself for awhile and had the good judgement to move on to the next technological plateau when I saw my business plan was soon not going to be viable. All through this, *I* didn't hide behind bankruptcy or the corporate veil-- EVERYONE to whom I owed money got paid, and got paid on time according to the contracts agreed upon.

I need no lessons from some Dandy like "The Donald", and I CERTAINLY won't vote for him for POTUS. And neither will a LOT of other people.

BTW, I stopped watching television about 3 years ago. It hit me while waking up to 'The Apprentice' for a few minutes one night when I dozed off with the TV on how utterly worthless it all was. 'The Apprentice' was really the last straw.

-Kerry O.

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/07/11 03:06 AM

I've never seen you defend a Liberal.

There is plenty of hard evidence to prove Clinton is\was a scumbag.



it was never investigated, it was only investigated AFTER a cover up
I defend my liberal friends, or I never defent liberals



indecisive a little,, yes?

Lpdon's photo
Tue 03/08/11 03:44 AM
Trump's Adviser Increases Speculation that He's Seriously Eyeing 2012

Des Moines, IA -- Billionaire real estate mogul Donald Trump is making his presence known in the Iowa political scene, with help from one of his closest advisors. On Monday, Trump's executive, Michael Cohen, spent the day in Iowa giving political watchers one more reason to believe Trump is seriously considering a run for president in 2012.

Now that one of his closest advisers is spending time in Iowa it seems like Trump's seriously considering it.

Trump's executive Michael Cohen, the co-founder of the website "shouldtrumprun.com," tells Fox News he took a "personal day" to fly from New York City to Iowa to meet with GOP insiders in Des Moines.

"We are very anxious to learn about Iowa and report back to Mr. Trump, when he hopefully decides to run in June, " Cohen said.

When a reporter asked Cohen to identify what sets Donald Trump apart from what could be a crowded field of Republican candidates, Cohen praised his boss' qualifications including, "his business acumen" and "his negotiating skills," while quipping that all of these assets should be obvious to anyone.

And of course, there's also the fact that -- according to Cohen -- "Mr. Trump is one of the wealthiest men in the country...also one of most well-known individuals on the planet."

Cohen landed in Des Moines Monday morning in what he describes as the smaller of Trump's two private airplanes. If you're picturing a smaller executive type private plane, think again. Cohen's ride resembled a commercial airliner with the word "TRUMP" plastered across both sides, and the very same plane often seen in Trump's reality show, "The Apprentice."

We were curious who was picking up the tab for today's flight to Iowa. Cohen says , it's not Donald Trump.

"Somebody else is paying for it."

"Who?" asked a reporter.

"It doesn't matter," Cohen protested before answering. "Stewart Rahr is paying for it. He's co-creator of shouldtrumprun.com."

Rahr, a self-made billionaire, is close friends with Trump. I spoke with Rahr by phone Monday afternoon, after his private plane arrived in New Orleans, just in time for Rahr to celebrate Mardi Gras. Rahr confirms he financed Cohen's trip to Iowa because he's willing to do whatever he can to get Trump elected.

"Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes to get Mr. Trump into the White House," Rahr said.

Reports that Stewart Rahr covered the cost of Michael Cohen's trip to Iowa caused some turbulence on political blogs late Monday afternoon, proposing Donald Trump somehow violated specific campaign finance rules limiting the amount of money people can donate to candidates who are "testing the waters" in a presidential bid.

We caught up with Cohen at Iowa's Faith and Family Coalition event Monday night in Waukee, Iowa, where he responded to the reports."Absolutely not true," said Cohen. "I'm offended. It's very very irresponsible reporting. The plane was paid for by Stewart Rahr, a good friend of Trump's."

"There is no exploratory committee. This is done by the two of us, we're having fun doing it. Our goal is to get Mr. Trump to run [for president]."

"He [Trump] has gone out and said to hundreds of reporters, he will make his decision by June. He's seriously considering running for the Republican nomination. If he does, we will see a very different America."

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/03/07/trumps-adviser-increases-speculation-hes-seriously-eyeing-2012?test=latestnews

Run Donald Run!

msharmony's photo
Tue 03/08/11 10:45 AM
I will be surprised if he knows more than a trivial tidbit about politics, international affairs, or any of the other issues that Presidents have to deal with


on the other hand, I do think a President is highly a 'spokesmodel' for the US to the rest of the world so we will see how he is viewed there as well


people respect money and he has it (was born with it) so that will no doubt give him an upperhand in being taken seriously, but that could work against him because he could just be an other Palin, instead of a pretty face, a pretty pocket book, with very little real world experience to draw from or relate to jill and joe average,,,,


and his money and name wont afford him the privileges and authority within government that he is used to it affording him in the corporate world,,,,,alot to be seen here if its true


Im no fan of his style and wouldnt want him representing the US, but time will tell,,,