Topic: Koch in the Wall Street Journal
galendgirl's photo
Wed 03/02/11 09:32 PM
March 1, 2011 - Wall Street Journal

Why Koch Industries Is Speaking Out
Crony capitalism and bloated government prevent entrepreneurs from producing the products and services that make people's lives better.
By CHARLES G. KOCH

Years of tremendous overspending by federal, state and local governments have brought us face-to-face with an economic crisis. Federal spending will total at least $3.8 trillion this year—double what it was 10 years ago. And unlike in 2001, when there was a small federal surplus, this year's projected budget deficit is more than $1.6 trillion.

Several trillions more in debt have been accumulated by state and local governments. States are looking at a combined total of more than $130 billion in budget shortfalls this year. Next year, they will be in even worse shape as most so-called stimulus payments end.

For many years, I, my family and our company have contributed to a variety of intellectual and political causes working to solve these problems.
Because of our activism, we've been vilified by various groups. Despite this criticism, we're determined to keep contributing and standing up for those politicians, like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who are taking these challenges seriously.

Both Democrats and Republicans have done a poor job of managing our finances. They've raised debt ceilings, floated bond issues, and delayed tough decisions.

In spite of looming bankruptcy, President Obama and many in Congress have tiptoed around the issue of overspending by suggesting relatively minor cuts in mostly discretionary items. There have been few serious proposals for necessary cuts in military and entitlement programs, even though these account for about three-fourths of all federal spending.

Yes, some House leaders have suggested cutting spending to 2008 levels. But getting back to a balanced budget would mean a return to at least 2003 spending levels—and would still leave us with the problem of paying off our enormous debts.

Federal data indicate how urgently we need reform: The unfunded liabilities of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid already exceed $106 trillion. That's well over $300,000 for every man, woman and child in America (and exceeds the combined value of every U.S. bank account, stock certificate, building and piece of personal or public property).

The Congressional Budget Office has warned that the interest on our federal debt is "poised to skyrocket." Even Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is sounding alarms. Yet the White House insists that substantial spending cuts would hurt the economy and increase unemployment.

Plenty of compelling examples indicate just the opposite. When Canada recently reduced its federal spending to 11.3% of GDP from 17.5% eight years earlier, the economy rebounded and unemployment dropped. By comparison, our federal spending is 25% of GDP.

Government spending on business only aggravates the problem. Too many businesses have successfully lobbied for special favors and treatment by seeking mandates for their products, subsidies (in the form of cash payments from the government), and regulations or tariffs to keep more efficient competitors at bay.

Crony capitalism is much easier than competing in an open market. But it erodes our overall standard of living and stifles entrepreneurs by rewarding the politically favored rather than those who provide what consumers want.

The purpose of business is to efficiently convert resources into products and services that make people's lives better. Businesses that fail to do so should be allowed to go bankrupt rather than be bailed out.

But what about jobs that are lost when businesses go under? It's important to remember that not all jobs are the same. In business, real jobs profitably produce goods and services that people value more highly than their alternatives. Subsidizing inefficient jobs is costly, wastes resources, and weakens our economy.

Because every other company in a given industry is accepting market-distorting programs, Koch companies have had little option but to do so as well, simply to remain competitive and help sustain our 50,000 U.S.-based jobs. However, even when such policies benefit us, we only support the policies that enhance true economic freedom.

For example, because of government mandates, our refining business is essentially obligated to be in the ethanol business. We believe that ethanol—and every other product in the marketplace—should be required to compete on its own merits, without mandates, subsidies or protective tariffs. Such policies only increase the prices of those products, taxes and the cost of many other goods and services.

Our elected officials would do well to remember that the most prosperous countries are those that allow consumers—not governments—to direct the use of resources. Allowing the government to pick winners and losers hurts almost everyone, especially our poorest citizens.

Recent studies show that the poorest 10% of the population living in countries with the greatest economic freedom have 10 times the per capita income of the poorest citizens in countries with the least economic freedom. In other words, society as a whole benefits from greater economic freedom.

Even though it affects our business, as a matter of principle our company has been outspoken in defense of economic freedom. This country would be much better off if every company would do the same. Instead, we see far too many businesses that paint their tails white and run with the antelope.

I am confident that businesses like ours will hire more people and invest in more equipment when our country's financial future looks more promising.
Laying the groundwork for smaller, smarter government, especially at the federal level, is going to be tough. But it is essential for getting us back on the path to long-term prosperity.

---Mr. Koch is chairman and CEO of Koch Industries, Inc. He's the author of "The Science of Success: How Market-Based Management Built the World's Largest Private Company" (Wiley, 2007).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704288304576170974226083178.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

galendgirl's photo
Wed 03/02/11 09:34 PM
I post this primarily to give an alternative view of the Koch brothers. I think it's worth an open-minded read.

no photo
Wed 03/02/11 09:37 PM
Thanks for sharing that with us. I can't wait to see the rebuttal. (I hope there is one. It probably won't appear in Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal)

InvictusV's photo
Thu 03/03/11 04:39 AM

Thanks for sharing that with us. I can't wait to see the rebuttal. (I hope there is one. It probably won't appear in Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal)


I am sure leftist economist in chief,Paul Krugman,is already working on it.

I am sure he will lay out the Keynesian view of how debt is irrelevant.

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 03/03/11 07:27 PM
Nope...

Michael Moore...

Money is a National Resource.

If you make it by hard work... Give it to those that don't.

Wonder how Mr. Moore would react to having some poor people show up on his doorstep asking for HIS money?

Fanta46's photo
Fri 03/04/11 09:50 AM
Public Relations!

An attempt to continue the brainwashing rouge he has on the disillusioned fantasies of Tea Publicans.

If you think the Gov's screwing Americans now,
imagine if the corporations get a majority in all three branches, by way of the Utopian visions generated by snorting tea.



msharmony's photo
Fri 03/04/11 12:26 PM

March 1, 2011 - Wall Street Journal

Why Koch Industries Is Speaking Out
Crony capitalism and bloated government prevent entrepreneurs from producing the products and services that make people's lives better.
By CHARLES G. KOCH

Years of tremendous overspending by federal, state and local governments have brought us face-to-face with an economic crisis. Federal spending will total at least $3.8 trillion this year—double what it was 10 years ago. And unlike in 2001, when there was a small federal surplus, this year's projected budget deficit is more than $1.6 trillion.

Several trillions more in debt have been accumulated by state and local governments. States are looking at a combined total of more than $130 billion in budget shortfalls this year. Next year, they will be in even worse shape as most so-called stimulus payments end.

For many years, I, my family and our company have contributed to a variety of intellectual and political causes working to solve these problems.
Because of our activism, we've been vilified by various groups. Despite this criticism, we're determined to keep contributing and standing up for those politicians, like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who are taking these challenges seriously.

Both Democrats and Republicans have done a poor job of managing our finances. They've raised debt ceilings, floated bond issues, and delayed tough decisions.

In spite of looming bankruptcy, President Obama and many in Congress have tiptoed around the issue of overspending by suggesting relatively minor cuts in mostly discretionary items. There have been few serious proposals for necessary cuts in military and entitlement programs, even though these account for about three-fourths of all federal spending.

Yes, some House leaders have suggested cutting spending to 2008 levels. But getting back to a balanced budget would mean a return to at least 2003 spending levels—and would still leave us with the problem of paying off our enormous debts.

Federal data indicate how urgently we need reform: The unfunded liabilities of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid already exceed $106 trillion. That's well over $300,000 for every man, woman and child in America (and exceeds the combined value of every U.S. bank account, stock certificate, building and piece of personal or public property).

The Congressional Budget Office has warned that the interest on our federal debt is "poised to skyrocket." Even Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is sounding alarms. Yet the White House insists that substantial spending cuts would hurt the economy and increase unemployment.

Plenty of compelling examples indicate just the opposite. When Canada recently reduced its federal spending to 11.3% of GDP from 17.5% eight years earlier, the economy rebounded and unemployment dropped. By comparison, our federal spending is 25% of GDP.

Government spending on business only aggravates the problem. Too many businesses have successfully lobbied for special favors and treatment by seeking mandates for their products, subsidies (in the form of cash payments from the government), and regulations or tariffs to keep more efficient competitors at bay.

Crony capitalism is much easier than competing in an open market. But it erodes our overall standard of living and stifles entrepreneurs by rewarding the politically favored rather than those who provide what consumers want.

The purpose of business is to efficiently convert resources into products and services that make people's lives better. Businesses that fail to do so should be allowed to go bankrupt rather than be bailed out.

But what about jobs that are lost when businesses go under? It's important to remember that not all jobs are the same. In business, real jobs profitably produce goods and services that people value more highly than their alternatives. Subsidizing inefficient jobs is costly, wastes resources, and weakens our economy.

Because every other company in a given industry is accepting market-distorting programs, Koch companies have had little option but to do so as well, simply to remain competitive and help sustain our 50,000 U.S.-based jobs. However, even when such policies benefit us, we only support the policies that enhance true economic freedom.

For example, because of government mandates, our refining business is essentially obligated to be in the ethanol business. We believe that ethanol—and every other product in the marketplace—should be required to compete on its own merits, without mandates, subsidies or protective tariffs. Such policies only increase the prices of those products, taxes and the cost of many other goods and services.

Our elected officials would do well to remember that the most prosperous countries are those that allow consumers—not governments—to direct the use of resources. Allowing the government to pick winners and losers hurts almost everyone, especially our poorest citizens.

Recent studies show that the poorest 10% of the population living in countries with the greatest economic freedom have 10 times the per capita income of the poorest citizens in countries with the least economic freedom. In other words, society as a whole benefits from greater economic freedom.

Even though it affects our business, as a matter of principle our company has been outspoken in defense of economic freedom. This country would be much better off if every company would do the same. Instead, we see far too many businesses that paint their tails white and run with the antelope.

I am confident that businesses like ours will hire more people and invest in more equipment when our country's financial future looks more promising.
Laying the groundwork for smaller, smarter government, especially at the federal level, is going to be tough. But it is essential for getting us back on the path to long-term prosperity.

---Mr. Koch is chairman and CEO of Koch Industries, Inc. He's the author of "The Science of Success: How Market-Based Management Built the World's Largest Private Company" (Wiley, 2007).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704288304576170974226083178.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop




lets hope its sincere,,I dont have alot of trust that it is

the fifth richest person in america would probably most CERTAINLY be supportive of more 'economic freedom' (however thats defined)

Fanta46's photo
Fri 03/04/11 09:20 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 03/04/11 09:22 PM
It's propaganda and BS!
This man and his brother are investing in the Tea Publican Party.
They are paying the Tea/Republican members to Govern this country in their favor.
They are spending money, buying "Tea Publicans" to pass legislation they wrote,
and give themselves more power over our country than "the people."
They will create jobs,
in mass,
in America, only when our standard of living becomes one of the lowest in the world and our children's children will work for dirt.
All the while they will get wealthier and wealthier.



What he says in the article is not even original.
Let alone sincere.


Thank someone that the majority of America sees through this BS!


AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 03/04/11 10:47 PM
Must be some important Democratic or Union political push coming within the next few days...

You allways post more nonsense just before that happens.

Bet we see a lot of that 'hollywood' and 'union' money comming back from the secret offshore 'accounts' wikileaks was warning us all about a few months ago...

In small dribs and drabs so as not to alert the watchdogs... right into the 501(3)c's that feed the Democratic party.

While you keep discounting the true power of the Tax Enough Allready folks remember this...

They were a whole lot more prevelant than anyone thought...

They last time they were discounted by folks like you. (they just don't come out and shout till its voting time).

galendgirl's photo
Mon 03/07/11 09:47 PM

It's propaganda and BS!
This man and his brother are investing in the Tea Publican Party.
They are paying the Tea/Republican members to Govern this country in their favor.
They are spending money, buying "Tea Publicans" to pass legislation they wrote,
and give themselves more power over our country than "the people."
They will create jobs,
in mass,
in America, only when our standard of living becomes one of the lowest in the world and our children's children will work for dirt.
All the while they will get wealthier and wealthier.



What he says in the article is not even original.
Let alone sincere.


Thank someone that the majority of America sees through this BS!




<sigh>

Talk to the people who chat with Charles Koch in the stairwell as he comes up from the cafeteria all his employees eat at...carrying his lunch from the same cafeteria.

Talk to the folks who work for Koch who challenge "the system" on a daily basis with no fear of retaliation.

Meet his family members who are so down to earth that you wouldn't know who they were or that they were privileged and who buy goods and services like everyone else...no fuss, no fanfare...

These people are not the monsters you make them out to be.

Then, talk to the people who are now having to watch the freakin' mail because their employer and coworkers have been threatened as they go to their daily work (a good living, thanks to the Koch's.)

Geez, dude...you don't have to agree, but you are so incredibly hateful and mean about this topic. What is the point? Really? Do you think you are making a better case for yourself by being ugly about it? I don't understand that strategy AT ALL!


Fanta46's photo
Tue 03/08/11 07:22 PM
the cafeteria all his employees eat at

Really?

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

galendgirl's photo
Wed 03/09/11 12:17 PM
No kidding. He does.

metalwing's photo
Wed 03/09/11 01:09 PM

the cafeteria all his employees eat at

Really?

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


It is hard to imagine what you are laughing at. Galendgirl is a first rate person who has more actual first hand knowledge of Koch than you could ever hope to know, but you think you know it all while knowing exactly nothing and act like an Azz to boot.

galendgirl's photo
Wed 03/09/11 07:24 PM
And here's a fun little factoid...
about 30% of Koch PAC money goes to Democratic candidates. It's not about the party or the person. It's about economic freedom.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 03/09/11 07:32 PM
After doing a bit of research I have to agree.

Koch brothers seem to 'support' canditates that are 'fiscally responsible' - no matter what the party.

They also support some small but effective community help groups.

they just don't 'loud' it out to everyone.