Topic: A Little Nepotism, Perhaps?
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Mon 02/28/11 04:34 PM
MADISON: Gov. Scott Walker has appointed Stephen Fitzgerald, father of Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald (R-Horicon) and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) to be the new head of the Wisconsin State Patrol.

Five current top officials at the State Patrol were passed over in awarding the job to Fitzgerald, 68, a former Dodge County sheriff with four decades in law enforcement. Former state lawmaker and new Department of Transportation Secretary Mark Gottlieb hired Fitzgerald, who was until last May the U.S. marshal in the Western District of Wisconsin.

As noted in an earlier article, Stephen Fitzgerald was Dodge County Sheriff when one of his deputies fatally shot a 29-year old man, Scott Bryant, during a raid of his home. Bryant was shot dead moments after deputies stormed his trailer and kicked in his door in a SWAT raid after some marijuana seeds and stems were found during a search of Bryant's trash. Dodge County later paid a $950,000 settlement to Bryant's family to settle a federal lawsuit over his death.

Fitzgerald was defeated 2-to-1 by incumbent Dodge County Sheriff Todd Nehls last September in the Republican primary in a failed attempt to regain his old position. The five current State Patrol leaders passed by in favor of the elder Fitzgerald are Acting Superintendent David Collins, Col. Ben Mendez, Maj. Sandra Huxtable, Maj. Darren Price and Maj. Daniel Lonsdorf.


http://www.examiner.com/norml-in-madison/father-of-top-wisconsin-lawmakers-gets-top-state-patrol-job



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Mon 02/28/11 04:39 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 02/28/11 04:52 PM
its really no surprise how often its about who you know as opposed to what you know,, in this world


although, you rarely stick around long if you dont know what you should know,,lol

networking helps PLENTY of people get the upper hand/foot in the door



found this in a job search article,,

At the very most -- and some say this number is too high -- only about 15-20 percent of all available jobs are ever publicly advertised in any medium.
http://www.quintcareers.com/job-hunting_myths.html


that would mean an ASTOUNDING four out of five positions being filled are being done within NETWORKS of people who already have some connection to each other,,,

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Tue 03/01/11 04:44 AM

MADISON: Gov. Scott Walker has appointed Stephen Fitzgerald, father of Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald (R-Horicon) and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) to be the new head of the Wisconsin State Patrol.

Five current top officials at the State Patrol were passed over in awarding the job to Fitzgerald, 68, a former Dodge County sheriff with four decades in law enforcement. Former state lawmaker and new Department of Transportation Secretary Mark Gottlieb hired Fitzgerald, who was until last May the U.S. marshal in the Western District of Wisconsin.

As noted in an earlier article, Stephen Fitzgerald was Dodge County Sheriff when one of his deputies fatally shot a 29-year old man, Scott Bryant, during a raid of his home. Bryant was shot dead moments after deputies stormed his trailer and kicked in his door in a SWAT raid after some marijuana seeds and stems were found during a search of Bryant's trash. Dodge County later paid a $950,000 settlement to Bryant's family to settle a federal lawsuit over his death.

Fitzgerald was defeated 2-to-1 by incumbent Dodge County Sheriff Todd Nehls last September in the Republican primary in a failed attempt to regain his old position. The five current State Patrol leaders passed by in favor of the elder Fitzgerald are Acting Superintendent David Collins, Col. Ben Mendez, Maj. Sandra Huxtable, Maj. Darren Price and Maj. Daniel Lonsdorf.


http://www.examiner.com/norml-in-madison/father-of-top-wisconsin-lawmakers-gets-top-state-patrol-job





This might be an issue if the guy was a dogcatcher.

I would say he is certainly qualified for the position.

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Tue 03/01/11 06:03 AM
I would say he is certainly qualified for the position.
Could be. I don't know, and I kinda think that you don't either.

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Tue 03/01/11 06:03 AM
I would say he is certainly qualified for the position.
Could be. I don't know, and I kinda think that you don't either.

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Tue 03/01/11 07:45 AM

I would say he is certainly qualified for the position.
Could be. I don't know, and I kinda think that you don't either.


40 years in law enforcement and serving as a US Marshal.

Yeah.. maybe he isn't qualified..

Now if we look at a guy like... oh I don't know... The CIA director.. I am certain he is qualified.. All those years of experience working as ....

well.. maybe he isn't the best example...

or wait... Director of CIA with no experience in intelligence gathering vs head of Wisconsin state police with 40 years in law enforcement...

yeah.. I really seem to think that maybe experience might be a little overrated..

I see your point.. Very well done..

I stand corrected..

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Tue 03/01/11 11:22 AM
who you know gets you in the door,,

what you know keeps you there....

and 'experience' is rarely a one on one equation, it comes in many forms,,,

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Tue 03/01/11 08:11 PM
Edited by InvictusV on Tue 03/01/11 08:12 PM

who you know gets you in the door,,

what you know keeps you there....

and 'experience' is rarely a one on one equation, it comes in many forms,,,


either you have experience and are qualified or you don't and you aren't.

the criteria for what kind of experience or qualifications required is not a one on one equation because they are determined by the person doing the hiring.

As my example of Leon Panetta showed, you can be hired for a position in which you have not a single qualification or any experience.

this thread was posted to be a dig at Walker not debate whether the person hired was qualified or not.

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Tue 03/01/11 08:16 PM
this thread was posted to be a dig at Walker not debate whether the person hired was qualified or not.
What's wrong with that?

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Tue 03/01/11 08:28 PM

this thread was posted to be a dig at Walker not debate whether the person hired was qualified or not.
What's wrong with that?


Nothing is wrong with it. You can post what you want..

Just as I can reply as I want..

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Wed 03/02/11 01:20 AM


who you know gets you in the door,,

what you know keeps you there....

and 'experience' is rarely a one on one equation, it comes in many forms,,,


either you have experience and are qualified or you don't and you aren't.

the criteria for what kind of experience or qualifications required is not a one on one equation because they are determined by the person doing the hiring.

As my example of Leon Panetta showed, you can be hired for a position in which you have not a single qualification or any experience.

this thread was posted to be a dig at Walker not debate whether the person hired was qualified or not.



not actually accurate in the case of panetta
from the cia website

'Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency is Leon E. Panetta. The D/CIA serves as the head of the Central Intelligence Agency and reports to the Director of National Intelligence. The D/CIA is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Director manages the operations, personnel and budget of the CIA and acts as the National Human Source Intelligence (HUMINT) Manager.'

so, it seems the job entails managing operations and personell and finance

where he does have plenty of experience as member of us house committe on the budget, and Clintons chief of staff,,

but in any case, it doesnt matter whether you know how to breed a dog if you are not AWARE of anyone who needs your service

with employment, the same is true, there are pools of qualified people, but those who know someone will almost always beat out the others because they are more exposed to the right open doors,,,




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Wed 03/02/11 04:12 AM



who you know gets you in the door,,

what you know keeps you there....

and 'experience' is rarely a one on one equation, it comes in many forms,,,


either you have experience and are qualified or you don't and you aren't.

the criteria for what kind of experience or qualifications required is not a one on one equation because they are determined by the person doing the hiring.

As my example of Leon Panetta showed, you can be hired for a position in which you have not a single qualification or any experience.

this thread was posted to be a dig at Walker not debate whether the person hired was qualified or not.



not actually accurate in the case of panetta
from the cia website

'Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency is Leon E. Panetta. The D/CIA serves as the head of the Central Intelligence Agency and reports to the Director of National Intelligence. The D/CIA is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Director manages the operations, personnel and budget of the CIA and acts as the National Human Source Intelligence (HUMINT) Manager.'

so, it seems the job entails managing operations and personell and finance

where he does have plenty of experience as member of us house committe on the budget, and Clintons chief of staff,,

but in any case, it doesnt matter whether you know how to breed a dog if you are not AWARE of anyone who needs your service

with employment, the same is true, there are pools of qualified people, but those who know someone will almost always beat out the others because they are more exposed to the right open doors,,,






It's very accurate..

I am sure that he sits down with the head of national intelligence and briefs him or the president on the how the CIA finances are going and how many people called in sick..

Nice try..






msharmony's photo
Wed 03/02/11 11:43 AM




who you know gets you in the door,,

what you know keeps you there....

and 'experience' is rarely a one on one equation, it comes in many forms,,,


either you have experience and are qualified or you don't and you aren't.

the criteria for what kind of experience or qualifications required is not a one on one equation because they are determined by the person doing the hiring.

As my example of Leon Panetta showed, you can be hired for a position in which you have not a single qualification or any experience.

this thread was posted to be a dig at Walker not debate whether the person hired was qualified or not.



not actually accurate in the case of panetta
from the cia website

'Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency is Leon E. Panetta. The D/CIA serves as the head of the Central Intelligence Agency and reports to the Director of National Intelligence. The D/CIA is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Director manages the operations, personnel and budget of the CIA and acts as the National Human Source Intelligence (HUMINT) Manager.'

so, it seems the job entails managing operations and personell and finance

where he does have plenty of experience as member of us house committe on the budget, and Clintons chief of staff,,

but in any case, it doesnt matter whether you know how to breed a dog if you are not AWARE of anyone who needs your service

with employment, the same is true, there are pools of qualified people, but those who know someone will almost always beat out the others because they are more exposed to the right open doors,,,






It's very accurate..

I am sure that he sits down with the head of national intelligence and briefs him or the president on the how the CIA finances are going and how many people called in sick..

Nice try..







I gave you the job description DIRECTLY from the CIA website,, believe what you want,,