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| Topic: Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions | |
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Edited by
galendgirl
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Whether you support the unions or not...here's another bit to reflect on:
The Koch PAC plus a lot of others made campaign contributions to Walker. The Unions and others made large campaign contributions to Barrett (the unsuccessful candidate.) What's the difference? Both sides were promoting what they felt was the right side, and used the money they were entitled to use to promote the candidate that served their best interest.. Isn't that the American way? Spewing sour grapes doesnt' make it wrong for one side and invisible for the other... |
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No difference at all. I think it's great that we can all know who is looking out for their own interests with their political contributions. Citizens United makes that mush more difficult.
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I guess I'd really like to hear the OP respond to that...I mean, read the thead title again and read the one-sided post of condemnation. It was a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black. I've got no issues disagreeing with someone...agree to disagree...but don't be a hypocrite and ignore that your own side of the issue participates in the same stuff you are finger-pointing about.
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Edited by
artlo
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Wed 02/23/11 06:38 PM
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is it really a news flash that labor interests are putting their financial resources behind anti-conservative factions? Let's put that to rest:
HEY, EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD! PEOPLE WHO ARE LEFT WING AND/OR ARE ON THE SIDE OF WORKING PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA AND WILL BRING ANYTHING TO LIGHT THAT EXPOSES THE RIGHT WING AGENDA IN AMERICA. Got that? |
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is it really a news flash that labor interests are putting their financial resources behind anti-conservative factions? Let's put that to rest: HEY, EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD! PEOPLE WHO ARE LEFT WING AND/OR ARE ON THE SIDE OF WORKING PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA AND WILL BRING ANYTHING TO LIGHT THAT EXPOSES THE RIGHT WING AGENDA IN AMERICA. Got that? Unions exist to help the working members. Some of those members are conservatives also... Do the Union 'corporate executives' have the right to use members dues to pursue political LIBERAL goals for a group that is not all LIBERAL? no. Better to reduce the 'dues' to give their members more ready personal cash and get back to supporting workers at the local levels were they should be. |
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Phase I Flood the internet with propaganda and lies, 'feel' good stories and twisted 'journalism' (yellow journalism - bought and payed for). Phase II Start protests in key states that have legislation which will slow the agenda... (agenda being total government). Attack media that is filming, reporting, and invesitgating instead of 'supporting'. Phase III continue to flood internet with propaganda. Coordinate nation wide protests (and lie them into being the same thing as the Eygptian protests)... but make them 'appear' to be 'spontaneous' by 'fooling' the easily fooled left media.(easily fooled because they 'believe' the propaganda). Attempt to 'force' compliance with reporting as though this activity is 'Egyptian' style quest for freedom... by threatening letters to mainstream media (cnn, abc... etc - this will back fire as these institutions may have lean but they also have principles). Phase IV Increase pressure by having 'hidden' elements within protests act in violent manner... and twist propaganda to place blame on 'other side'... (You will know when this is about to happen as the 'propaganda' will hit the 'media' before the actual action occurs.) Now we watch... Phase I cut taxes for the rich Phase II scream the budget is in defecit PhaseII cut workers wages and benefits PhaseIV turn america into a bannana republic so we can revolt like the egyptians. |
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So you read it, http://mingle2.com/topic/show/297299 Now by your own admission, and with your own words, who is ignoring anyone that puts up a truth you don't like? 
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Whether you support the unions or not...here's another bit to reflect on: The Koch PAC plus a lot of others made campaign contributions to Walker. The Unions and others made large campaign contributions to Barrett (the unsuccessful candidate.) What's the difference? Both sides were promoting what they felt was the right side, and used the money they were entitled to use to promote the candidate that served their best interest.. Isn't that the American way? Spewing sour grapes doesnt' make it wrong for one side and invisible for the other... |
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Here's some news about Scott Walker from today. Seems he may have some problems with the criminal courts.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/02/watchdog_calls_for_probe_of_go.html |
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is it really a news flash that labor interests are putting their financial resources behind anti-conservative factions? Let's put that to rest: HEY, EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD! PEOPLE WHO ARE LEFT WING AND/OR ARE ON THE SIDE OF WORKING PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA AND WILL BRING ANYTHING TO LIGHT THAT EXPOSES THE RIGHT WING AGENDA IN AMERICA. Got that? BANG! How about that? Right on my friend. Why won't the Tea Party supporters just admit that they aren't a grassroots organization? Admit that they want corporations to run this country? Admit they support the very interests they so claim they are against instead of fooling themselves and trying to make patsies out of others? Me thinks they have bitten off more than they realize. Me thinks they believe they can get financial support from these corporations and then some how come out holding a rose later. Me thinks they think they can use these powerful interests to destroy Obama, a black President, and then somehow reverse the mess they've created later. Me thinks they are fooling themselves. Me thinks they won't be able to chew what they are biting off. |
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Better to reduce the 'dues' to give their members more ready personal cash and get back to supporting workers at the local levels were they should be. That really isn't your call, now is it? That's between the membership and its officers.
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Better to reduce the 'dues' to give their members more ready personal cash and get back to supporting workers at the local levels were they should be. That really isn't your call, now is it? That's between the membership and its officers.  
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Why won't the Tea Party supporters just admit that they aren't a grassroots organization? Yeah. whatever happened to that huge Tea Party appearance we were all expecting in Madison? Didn't see a lot about them in the media |
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Why won't the Tea Party supporters just admit that they aren't a grassroots organization? Yeah. whatever happened to that huge Tea Party appearance we were all expecting in Madison? Didn't see a lot about them in the media They weren't paid enough I guess. |
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Why won't the Tea Party supporters just admit that they aren't a grassroots organization? Yeah. whatever happened to that huge Tea Party appearance we were all expecting in Madison? Didn't see a lot about them in the media |
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A caller on Stephanie Miller this morning made a great point. The high-paid Government employees are not even members of Unions. Many are even political appointees.
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Read the bill...
they are getting cut also. |
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Apparently, you missed pages 31-33 of the bill.
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This whole Koch/Walker/Union affair affirms what Ambrose Bierce wrote over a century ago:
Politics, n., A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -Kerry O. |
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That is a great definition.
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