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Topic: Sharia Law already in the US
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Sat 02/12/11 06:57 AM
Imam Feisal Abdel Rauf (ground-zero mosque) claims that the U.S. constitution is Sharia compliant. Now let us examine below a few laws of Sharia to see how truthful Imam Rauf is:

1 - Jihad, defined as to war against non -Muslims to establish the religion, is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.

2 - A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.

3 - A Caliph is exempt from being charged with serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape.

4 - A percentage of Zakat (charity money) must go towards jihad.

5 - It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.

6 - A caliph must be a Muslim, a non -slave and a male.

7 - The Muslim public must remove the Caliph if he rejects Islam.

8 - A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately.

9 - A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of: 1) an apostate 2) an adulterer 3) a highway robber. Vigilante street justice and honor killing is acceptable.

10 - A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non -Muslim, but will get it for killing a Muslim.

11 - Sharia never abolished slavery, sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave.

12 - Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, amputation of limbs, flogging even for crimes of sin such as adultery.

13 - Non -Muslims are not equal to Muslims under the law. They must comply to Islamic law if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their scriptures or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non -Muslim is no longer protected if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.

14 - It is a crime for a non -Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non -Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. But Muslims can curse non -Muslims.

15 - A non -Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.

16 - Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.

17 - No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low -level jobs, such as street sweepers or bathhouse attendants. Women in low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.

18 - A non -Muslim cannot rule even over a non -Muslim minority.

19 - Homosexuality is punishable by death.

20 - There is no age limit for marriage of girls. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and can be consummated at age 8 or 9.

21 - Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husbands obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.

22 - Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: I divorce you and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.

23 - There is no community property between husband and wife and the husbands property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.

24 - A woman inherits half what a man inherits.

25 - A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and none of them have a right to divorce him %u2014 even if he is polygamous.

26 - The dowry is given in exchange for the womans sexual organs.

27 - A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and women captured in battle, and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.

28 - The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man.

29 - A woman loses custody if she remarries.

30 - To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses.

31 - A rapist may only be required to pay the bride -money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.

32 - A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body, which is considered wrah, a sexual organ. Not all Sharia schools allow the face of a woman exposed.

33 - A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife at the time he caught her in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women, since the man could be married to the woman he was caught with.

34 -It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory. That means that for the sake of abiding with Islams commandments, such as jihad, a Muslim is obliged to lie and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying.

The above are clear-cut laws in Islam decided by great Imams after years of examination and interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Mohammeds life.
Now let the learned Imam Rauf tell us: What part of the above is compliant with the U.S. Constitution?

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Ban on Sharia law in Okla. ruled unconstitutional

Dallas Voice 01 December 2010
By David Taffet

A federal judge ruled an attempt to outlaw Sharia law is unconstitutional, according to the Daily Oklahoman. U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange issued a 15-page ruling throwing out the state constitutional amendment. On Nov. 2, Oklahoma voters approved the amendment that would have prohibited state courts from considering or using Sharia law despite the fact that state courts had never used – nor had plans to use — Sharia law. The constitutional amendment passed with more than 70 percent of the vote.

Sharia is Islamic law based on the Quran and the teachings of Muhammed. It includes the Ten Commandments — so the amendment effectively made the Ten Commandments illegal in Oklahoma (...)

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Sat 02/12/11 07:05 AM
well #3 vaguely sounds Washingtonian laugh (jk)


but the rest is insane

and whatever that document is your quoting - if it's true - it's adherents should be banned to a wall prison soemwhere. I 've never read such insanity

willing2's photo
Sat 02/12/11 11:55 AM
Any male who would defend Sharia would probably be bad news for a woman.
Watch your kids around them.
They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked


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Sat 02/12/11 12:10 PM
It's a good thing the vast majority of moderate muslims are against such harsh laws.



They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked




Who is 'they' exactly?

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Sat 02/12/11 12:13 PM

It's a good thing the vast majority of moderate muslims are against such harsh laws.



They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked




Who is 'they' exactly?

If you say so.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 02/12/11 12:24 PM



If you say so.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that all muslims around the world are all blood thirsty extremist fundamentalists, do you?


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Sat 02/12/11 12:25 PM

Any male who would defend Sharia would probably be bad news for a woman.
Watch your kids around them.
They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked


I suppose the US troops that raped a 14 year old girl in Iraq then killed the entire family and burned their bodies is totaly off your radar.

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Sat 02/12/11 12:26 PM
#1 is wrong! At the very least twisted.

Jihad,

also je·had (jĭ-häd')
n.
1.Islam. An individual's striving for spiritual self-perfection.
2.Islam. A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels.
3.A crusade or struggle: "The war against smoking is turning into a jihad against people who smoke"


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/jihad#ixzz1DmJjR86R

The rest?
One can only imagine the motivation.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/12/11 12:28 PM
Definition of CALIPH
: a successor of Muhammad as temporal and spiritual head of Islam —used as a title

willing2's photo
Sat 02/12/11 12:37 PM




If you say so.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that all muslims around the world are all blood thirsty extremist fundamentalists, do you?



I hear very few actually denouncing it.


Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/12/11 12:38 PM
This web site will give a person a far truer and better understanding of Sharia and life in the Muslim world.

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Sat 02/12/11 01:16 PM
Edited by KerryO on Sat 02/12/11 01:18 PM





If you say so.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that all muslims around the world are all blood thirsty extremist fundamentalists, do you?



I hear very few actually denouncing it.




And I don't hear many of the same right-wing Christians who claim this country is their god-given oyster denouncing the slaughter in the Old Testament, either.

To anyone except those same right-wing Christians who are attempting to stoke the flames of religious intolerance for votes, this ruling meant ONLY that the way it was written was unconstitutional because it attempted to single out a single religion. At NO TIME did the judge say she favored provisions of Sharia law-- most such provisions would be unconstitutional on their own merits.

I guess it takes a John Birch Society mentality to see what wasn't actually there and use it to fearmonger.

Yanno, Willing-- as an secular agnostic, I would have far more to fear from these inaccurate caricatures you're constantly posting against other religions than you would. And I'm not the least bit worried about Muslims or Sharia Law becoming the law of the land any more than I'm worried about the Mormons passing laws requiring us all to wear their 'magic underwear.'

-Kerry O.

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Sat 02/12/11 01:45 PM





If you say so.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that all muslims around the world are all blood thirsty extremist fundamentalists, do you?



I hear very few actually denouncing it.




Do you know many personally? Have you asked them?

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Sat 02/12/11 06:34 PM

#1 is wrong! At the very least twisted.

Jihad,

also je·had (jĭ-häd')
n.
1.Islam. An individual's striving for spiritual self-perfection.
2.Islam. A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels.
3.A crusade or struggle: "The war against smoking is turning into a jihad against people who smoke"


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/jihad#ixzz1DmJjR86R

The rest?
One can only imagine the motivation.


Are you ever on America's side...?

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Sat 02/12/11 07:21 PM




If you say so.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that all muslims around the world are all blood thirsty extremist fundamentalists, do you?




nobody is "all" or "always" anything

and extremists of any religion are simply BAD NEWS in any language- good point u

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Sat 02/12/11 07:22 PM


Any male who would defend Sharia would probably be bad news for a woman.
Watch your kids around them.
They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked


I suppose the US troops that raped a 14 year old girl in Iraq then killed the entire family and burned their bodies is totaly off your radar.


how do u know for certain that this happened?

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Sat 02/12/11 07:29 PM





Are you ever on America's side...?


Does standing up for accurate and truthful translation of arabic words mean you are automatically against America? (or the west?)

Islam was around for a long time before America, it was never designed to be about conflict with the west

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 02/12/11 07:30 PM



Any male who would defend Sharia would probably be bad news for a woman.
Watch your kids around them.
They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked


I suppose the US troops that raped a 14 year old girl in Iraq then killed the entire family and burned their bodies is totaly off your radar.


how do u know for certain that this happened?
The Mahmudiyah killings and gang-rape of a 14-year-old girl by U.S. troops occurred on March 12, 2006, in a house to the southwest of Yusufiyah, a village to the west of the town of Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq. Five United States Army soldiers of the 502nd Infantry Regiment were charged with the crimes: (i) Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, (ii) Spc. James P. Barker, (iii) Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman, (iv) Pfc. Brian L. Howard and (v) Pfc. Steven D. Green (whom the Army discharged before the crime's discovery). Abeer Qasim Hamza was raped and murdered, after her family was murdered: her mother, Fakhriyah Taha Muhsin, 34; father, Qasim Hamza Raheem, 45; and six-year-old sister Hadeel Qasim Hamza.[1] As of September 2009[update], Spielman and Green have been convicted and three others have pled guilty.[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings

willing2's photo
Sat 02/12/11 07:34 PM




Any male who would defend Sharia would probably be bad news for a woman.
Watch your kids around them.
They love 'em pre-pubescent.shocked


I suppose the US troops that raped a 14 year old girl in Iraq then killed the entire family and burned their bodies is totaly off your radar.


how do u know for certain that this happened?
The Mahmudiyah killings and gang-rape of a 14-year-old girl by U.S. troops occurred on March 12, 2006, in a house to the southwest of Yusufiyah, a village to the west of the town of Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq. Five United States Army soldiers of the 502nd Infantry Regiment were charged with the crimes: (i) Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, (ii) Spc. James P. Barker, (iii) Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman, (iv) Pfc. Brian L. Howard and (v) Pfc. Steven D. Green (whom the Army discharged before the crime's discovery). Abeer Qasim Hamza was raped and murdered, after her family was murdered: her mother, Fakhriyah Taha Muhsin, 34; father, Qasim Hamza Raheem, 45; and six-year-old sister Hadeel Qasim Hamza.[1] As of September 2009[update], Spielman and Green have been convicted and three others have pled guilty.[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings

That was done in the name of insanity. Just like Sharia.

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Sat 02/12/11 07:37 PM
I've said before that I would much rather live in a muslim country under sharia law than a leftist secular progressive autocracy.

I would have a wife for every room of my house. Insuring that each one knew they were responsible for keeping those rooms clean..

Pretty sweet ..

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