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Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/10/11 06:38 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Thu 02/10/11 06:39 PM
"Armed Society is a polite society" is bull shyte for sure. We have been the great locked and loaded west for a long time and polite is not what we are called by any extent of the word

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Thu 02/10/11 06:47 PM
Armed Society is a polite society
That came from Robert Heinlein, the famous SCIENCE FICTION author. I think an armed society is a lethal society, poised to act out the same way it does without arms only deadlier. My opinion is at least as good as anybody else's.

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 02/10/11 06:50 PM

Well, there ya go. You think your opinion is better than mine. I think my opinion is better than yours.

Does Home invasions=burglaries? There's a chart for that
Total crimes per capita? There's a chart for that
The ratio was 3 to one.
Why don't you find the statistics that would help you explain how "Gun control working in the UK . . . was FAKE AS IT GOT! "? Am I just suppose to take your word for it?
On top of that something ALL crime statistics leave out is violent crimes involving weapons other than guns. In the UK knives are still all the rage in fear and intimidation!
That is probably true. It doesn't change the fact that, where the rate of assualt, whether in home invasion or gang violence or police violence is roughly the same, the rates of homicide is 3 times as high in the country with lax gun law than in the country with very strict gun laws.

that would go down if folks actually started carrying their weapons... Big deterant when a 'bad' guy whips out a gun and the comunity blows him away...

few time like that and criminals would go elswhere.

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Thu 02/10/11 06:55 PM
Edited by artlo on Thu 02/10/11 06:56 PM
that would go down if folks actually started carrying their weapons... Big deterant when a 'bad' guy whips out a gun and the comunity blows him away...

few time like that and criminals would go elswhere.
That would be a good movie. Might even happen that way. How about this?
your kid is at a frat party or a sports bar where everybody is packing. That could develop into a pretty realistic scenario, too.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/10/11 07:04 PM


Well, there ya go. You think your opinion is better than mine. I think my opinion is better than yours.

Does Home invasions=burglaries? There's a chart for that
Total crimes per capita? There's a chart for that
The ratio was 3 to one.
Why don't you find the statistics that would help you explain how "Gun control working in the UK . . . was FAKE AS IT GOT! "? Am I just suppose to take your word for it?
On top of that something ALL crime statistics leave out is violent crimes involving weapons other than guns. In the UK knives are still all the rage in fear and intimidation!
That is probably true. It doesn't change the fact that, where the rate of assualt, whether in home invasion or gang violence or police violence is roughly the same, the rates of homicide is 3 times as high in the country with lax gun law than in the country with very strict gun laws.

that would go down if folks actually started carrying their weapons... Big deterant when a 'bad' guy whips out a gun and the comunity blows him away...

few time like that and criminals would go elswhere.


Not true and foolish to believe so...

We have been an armed society since this countries inception and have yet to see criminals go elsewhere. I think that was a wild west philosophy that has failed miserably and certain people want to ignore the failure.

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 02/10/11 07:57 PM
Scientology was founded by a homosexual pedophile. So what else?

Now repeating that your opinion is as good as any one else's is pretty weak sauce. Makes you sound like A BHL. Now about an armed society being a polite one, well, if you know the other guy will shoot back makes one hesitant to draw a weapon in the first place. Likewise when people carried swords the rules of Chivalry prevented open bloodshed without permission from the local nobility. It spelled out a code of conduct among gentry as well to prevent people from just taking advantage of them having a sword and the others not having one. Bushido was Japan's codes of Sword Wielding ethics!

Frankly believing others will protect you from harm is stupid. Hope you get this through your thick heads, a gun can be seconds away, the police are minuets away. What makes a bigger difference when seconds count?

If you can't defend yourself what good are you? More like worthless. if you can't protect yourself that means you sure in the hell can't watch my back. So why should I waste my energy watching your back? Neither of you have any Street Savvy evidently! Go ahead and believing being unarmed makes you all warm and safe. Believe whatever you want. Its a big country. Just don't whine when something bad happens to you and you were powerless to do anything and likewise remember my words!

This statement is a double edged sword but I have to say it. It is so easy to be brave from behind a computer screen in the comfort of your home. It is so easy to be led by your nose by John Lennon's beliefs in anti violence in the safety of your home! All I can say is you people come off as Masochistic! Take a walk down Anaheim Street in Wilmington some time alone. That is the Bunny Trail. If you want some Black Diamond excitement try the projects on Imperial and Alameda in Watts. Them Niggaz will be on your white azzes so fast you won't have time to say, "Shoo, was up wit da' fronting?" Think you can call LAPD on your cellies to save your Lilly white azzes from a taxation session? Yep. People are just so nice to each other all the time! Yep, this is America, we don't have bad people living here!

Yeah! Unarmed is smart in a world full of predators! Oh yeah! That's the ticket!

Sheep!

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Thu 02/10/11 08:14 PM
Edited by artlo on Thu 02/10/11 08:16 PM
Scientology was founded by a homosexual pedophile. So what else?

Now repeating that your opinion is as good as any one else's is pretty weak sauce. Makes you sound like A BHL. Now about an armed society being a polite one, well, if you know the other guy will shoot back makes one hesitant to draw a weapon in the first place. Likewise when people carried swords the rules of Chivalry prevented open bloodshed without permission from the local nobility. It spelled out a code of conduct among gentry as well to prevent people from just taking advantage of them having a sword and the others not having one. Bushido was Japan's codes of Sword Wielding ethics!

Frankly believing others will protect you from harm is stupid. Hope you get this through your thick heads, a gun can be seconds away, the police are minuets away. What makes a bigger difference when seconds count?

If you can't defend yourself what good are you? More like worthless. if you can't protect yourself that means you sure in the hell can't watch my back. So why should I waste my energy watching your back? Neither of you have any Street Savvy evidently! Go ahead and believing being unarmed makes you all warm and safe. Believe whatever you want. Its a big country. Just don't whine when something bad happens to you and you were powerless to do anything and likewise remember my words!

This statement is a double edged sword but I have to say it. It is so easy to be brave from behind a computer screen in the comfort of your home. It is so easy to be led by your nose by John Lennon's beliefs in anti violence in the safety of your home! All I can say is you people come off as Masochistic! Take a walk down Anaheim Street in Wilmington some time alone. That is the Bunny Trail. If you want some Black Diamond excitement try the projects on Imperial and Alameda in Watts. Them Niggaz will be on your white azzes so fast you won't have time to say, "Shoo, was up wit da' fronting?" Think you can call LAPD on your cellies to save your Lilly white azzes from a taxation session? Yep. People are just so nice to each other all the time! Yep, this is America, we don't have bad people living here!

Yeah! Unarmed is smart in a world full of predators! Oh yeah! That's the ticket!

Sheep!
Can't imagine what L Ron Howard has to do with any of this. What is BHL? I think I can pretty well understand your position on gun control. I thnk you vastly over-rate the potential "safety" you think you can achieve with relaxed gun laws. that is my opinion and I think it's a better opinion than yours.

It might surprise you to know that I am strongly of the opinion that the left wing should abandon any opposition to so-called "second amendment" advocates. As long as a significant % of the population insists on misrepresenting the content of the 2nd Amendment, it is an argument that the left cannot win. It is foolish to cling to this political liability. The senseless killing will go on, and I don't think this can be prevented.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 02/10/11 08:21 PM

There are problems with polls like this. 1) Rasmussen consistently gives a pronounced edge to the Conservatives 2) NONE of the polls ask the correct questions. An honest poll would ask:

a) Do you want the ACA to remain?
b) Do you want the ACE to be repealed because it is too liberal?
c) Do you want the ACE to be repealed because it isn't liberal enough?


I think the poll issue sailed out in the same boat the Fox News issue did. Besides that, they won't listen anyway.

If they won't listen to the logic of taking 1,000 people out of a pool that includes over 50 million and calling it a "poll" correctly, they certainly won't listen to any other logic passed their way.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 02/22/11 08:07 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Tue 02/22/11 08:07 PM

Scientology was founded by a homosexual pedophile. So what else?

Now repeating that your opinion is as good as any one else's is pretty weak sauce. Makes you sound like A BHL. Now about an armed society being a polite one, well, if you know the other guy will shoot back makes one hesitant to draw a weapon in the first place. Likewise when people carried swords the rules of Chivalry prevented open bloodshed without permission from the local nobility. It spelled out a code of conduct among gentry as well to prevent people from just taking advantage of them having a sword and the others not having one. Bushido was Japan's codes of Sword Wielding ethics!

Frankly believing others will protect you from harm is stupid. Hope you get this through your thick heads, a gun can be seconds away, the police are minuets away. What makes a bigger difference when seconds count?

If you can't defend yourself what good are you? More like worthless. if you can't protect yourself that means you sure in the hell can't watch my back. So why should I waste my energy watching your back? Neither of you have any Street Savvy evidently! Go ahead and believing being unarmed makes you all warm and safe. Believe whatever you want. Its a big country. Just don't whine when something bad happens to you and you were powerless to do anything and likewise remember my words!

This statement is a double edged sword but I have to say it. It is so easy to be brave from behind a computer screen in the comfort of your home. It is so easy to be led by your nose by John Lennon's beliefs in anti violence in the safety of your home! All I can say is you people come off as Masochistic! Take a walk down Anaheim Street in Wilmington some time alone. That is the Bunny Trail. If you want some Black Diamond excitement try the projects on Imperial and Alameda in Watts. Them Niggaz will be on your white azzes so fast you won't have time to say, "Shoo, was up wit da' fronting?" Think you can call LAPD on your cellies to save your Lilly white azzes from a taxation session? Yep. People are just so nice to each other all the time! Yep, this is America, we don't have bad people living here!

Yeah! Unarmed is smart in a world full of predators! Oh yeah! That's the ticket!

Sheep!
Can't imagine what L Ron Howard has to do with any of this. What is BHL? I think I can pretty well understand your position on gun control. I thnk you vastly over-rate the potential "safety" you think you can achieve with relaxed gun laws. that is my opinion and I think it's a better opinion than yours.

It might surprise you to know that I am strongly of the opinion that the left wing should abandon any opposition to so-called "second amendment" advocates. As long as a significant % of the population insists on misrepresenting the content of the 2nd Amendment, it is an argument that the left cannot win. It is foolish to cling to this political liability. The senseless killing will go on, and I don't think this can be prevented.


L Ron Howard? Don't you mean L Ron Hubbard? slaphead

Lpdon's photo
Tue 02/22/11 08:17 PM

Scientology was founded by a homosexual pedophile. So what else?

Now repeating that your opinion is as good as any one else's is pretty weak sauce. Makes you sound like A BHL. Now about an armed society being a polite one, well, if you know the other guy will shoot back makes one hesitant to draw a weapon in the first place. Likewise when people carried swords the rules of Chivalry prevented open bloodshed without permission from the local nobility. It spelled out a code of conduct among gentry as well to prevent people from just taking advantage of them having a sword and the others not having one. Bushido was Japan's codes of Sword Wielding ethics!

Frankly believing others will protect you from harm is stupid. Hope you get this through your thick heads, a gun can be seconds away, the police are minuets away. What makes a bigger difference when seconds count?

If you can't defend yourself what good are you? More like worthless. if you can't protect yourself that means you sure in the hell can't watch my back. So why should I waste my energy watching your back? Neither of you have any Street Savvy evidently! Go ahead and believing being unarmed makes you all warm and safe. Believe whatever you want. Its a big country. Just don't whine when something bad happens to you and you were powerless to do anything and likewise remember my words!

This statement is a double edged sword but I have to say it. It is so easy to be brave from behind a computer screen in the comfort of your home. It is so easy to be led by your nose by John Lennon's beliefs in anti violence in the safety of your home! All I can say is you people come off as Masochistic! Take a walk down Anaheim Street in Wilmington some time alone. That is the Bunny Trail. If you want some Black Diamond excitement try the projects on Imperial and Alameda in Watts. Them Niggaz will be on your white azzes so fast you won't have time to say, "Shoo, was up wit da' fronting?" Think you can call LAPD on your cellies to save your Lilly white azzes from a taxation session? Yep. People are just so nice to each other all the time! Yep, this is America, we don't have bad people living here!

Yeah! Unarmed is smart in a world full of predators! Oh yeah! That's the ticket!

Sheep!


Hubbard was many things, but he wasn't homosexual or a pedophile. The COS supports the ban on same sex marriage.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Hubbard. He is nothing more then a con man who wanted to make a quick buck.

Not to mention the massive lies about his military service. He said he earned over thirty medals(he only earned four) and was stripped of command twice! Not to mention going AWOL with a us Sub Chaser and ordering it to fire at Mexico and had the salors on the deck with rifles shooting at Mexico, causing an international incident with an ally.

Oh yeah, then there was the two day attack off the Oregon Coast where he said there were two Jap Subs in the water. He launched over 50 depth charges, used all the ammunition on the ship, called in other sub chasers, blimps, supply boats, Coast Guard vessils and choppers, planes ett. It was found that there was NEVER a Sub in the area, and he claims to have sunk one(the one he claimed to have sunk actually went down two years later in another part of the world).

Also when we recieved all the Japaneese records after the war it was proved there was never ANY Jap Subs off the Oregon Coast.

THen there was the story he wrote about where one of the ships he commanded came under attack off the coast of Maine where everyone on the ship died but him and he survived in a life boat for weeks, blind and severly hurt. He amazingly used his "Special Powers" and healed himself back to 100%.

Theres also the comments made where as a LtJG. he commanded a group of British Corvettes in WW2. Even Admirals didn't do that.

I can keep going on his lies and crimes like "Operation Snow White", one of the largest domestic spying incidents in US History and made him a Federal Fugitive until the day he dies.

Scientology is a scam started by someone with severe mental issues. He even tried to get Psych help from the VA and was denied, thats why he and Scientology are against Psycology and Psychiatry.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 02/22/11 08:36 PM

that would go down if folks actually started carrying their weapons... Big deterant when a 'bad' guy whips out a gun and the comunity blows him away...

few time like that and criminals would go elswhere.
That would be a good movie. Might even happen that way. How about this?
your kid is at a frat party or a sports bar where everybody is packing. That could develop into a pretty realistic scenario, too.

Perhaps they would learn to show people some respect.

Most of the kids that age now days are smartmouth punks...


AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 02/22/11 08:38 PM



Well, there ya go. You think your opinion is better than mine. I think my opinion is better than yours.

Does Home invasions=burglaries? There's a chart for that
Total crimes per capita? There's a chart for that
The ratio was 3 to one.
Why don't you find the statistics that would help you explain how "Gun control working in the UK . . . was FAKE AS IT GOT! "? Am I just suppose to take your word for it?
On top of that something ALL crime statistics leave out is violent crimes involving weapons other than guns. In the UK knives are still all the rage in fear and intimidation!
That is probably true. It doesn't change the fact that, where the rate of assualt, whether in home invasion or gang violence or police violence is roughly the same, the rates of homicide is 3 times as high in the country with lax gun law than in the country with very strict gun laws.

that would go down if folks actually started carrying their weapons... Big deterant when a 'bad' guy whips out a gun and the comunity blows him away...

few time like that and criminals would go elswhere.


Not true and foolish to believe so...

We have been an armed society since this countries inception and have yet to see criminals go elsewhere. I think that was a wild west philosophy that has failed miserably and certain people want to ignore the failure.

Balderdash...

Illegal to carry in most places in the United States. Has been 'restricted' for years except in a few states. (and even in those states carry is still restricted from some buildings and places)...


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Wed 02/23/11 12:29 AM


Scientology was founded by a homosexual pedophile. So what else?

Now repeating that your opinion is as good as any one else's is pretty weak sauce. Makes you sound like A BHL. Now about an armed society being a polite one, well, if you know the other guy will shoot back makes one hesitant to draw a weapon in the first place. Likewise when people carried swords the rules of Chivalry prevented open bloodshed without permission from the local nobility. It spelled out a code of conduct among gentry as well to prevent people from just taking advantage of them having a sword and the others not having one. Bushido was Japan's codes of Sword Wielding ethics!

Frankly believing others will protect you from harm is stupid. Hope you get this through your thick heads, a gun can be seconds away, the police are minuets away. What makes a bigger difference when seconds count?

If you can't defend yourself what good are you? More like worthless. if you can't protect yourself that means you sure in the hell can't watch my back. So why should I waste my energy watching your back? Neither of you have any Street Savvy evidently! Go ahead and believing being unarmed makes you all warm and safe. Believe whatever you want. Its a big country. Just don't whine when something bad happens to you and you were powerless to do anything and likewise remember my words!

This statement is a double edged sword but I have to say it. It is so easy to be brave from behind a computer screen in the comfort of your home. It is so easy to be led by your nose by John Lennon's beliefs in anti violence in the safety of your home! All I can say is you people come off as Masochistic! Take a walk down Anaheim Street in Wilmington some time alone. That is the Bunny Trail. If you want some Black Diamond excitement try the projects on Imperial and Alameda in Watts. Them Niggaz will be on your white azzes so fast you won't have time to say, "Shoo, was up wit da' fronting?" Think you can call LAPD on your cellies to save your Lilly white azzes from a taxation session? Yep. People are just so nice to each other all the time! Yep, this is America, we don't have bad people living here!

Yeah! Unarmed is smart in a world full of predators! Oh yeah! That's the ticket!

Sheep!


Hubbard was many things, but he wasn't homosexual or a pedophile. The COS supports the ban on same sex marriage.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Hubbard. He is nothing more then a con man who wanted to make a quick buck.

Not to mention the massive lies about his military service. He said he earned over thirty medals(he only earned four) and was stripped of command twice! Not to mention going AWOL with a us Sub Chaser and ordering it to fire at Mexico and had the salors on the deck with rifles shooting at Mexico, causing an international incident with an ally.

Oh yeah, then there was the two day attack off the Oregon Coast where he said there were two Jap Subs in the water. He launched over 50 depth charges, used all the ammunition on the ship, called in other sub chasers, blimps, supply boats, Coast Guard vessils and choppers, planes ett. It was found that there was NEVER a Sub in the area, and he claims to have sunk one(the one he claimed to have sunk actually went down two years later in another part of the world).

Also when we recieved all the Japaneese records after the war it was proved there was never ANY Jap Subs off the Oregon Coast.

THen there was the story he wrote about where one of the ships he commanded came under attack off the coast of Maine where everyone on the ship died but him and he survived in a life boat for weeks, blind and severly hurt. He amazingly used his "Special Powers" and healed himself back to 100%.

Theres also the comments made where as a LtJG. he commanded a group of British Corvettes in WW2. Even Admirals didn't do that.

I can keep going on his lies and crimes like "Operation Snow White", one of the largest domestic spying incidents in US History and made him a Federal Fugitive until the day he dies.

Scientology is a scam started by someone with severe mental issues. He even tried to get Psych help from the VA and was denied, thats why he and Scientology are against Psycology and Psychiatry.


UMmmmmmmmmm, L Ron Hubbard was known to have a thing with young boys "behind the scenes." And he was a CHRONIC liar! What is worst is they have a temple (a former movie theater) they hold their meetings at. I know where it is and I so badly want to sick kill-bots on them! The ultimate way for a sci fi head to go out!

AndyBgood's photo
Wed 02/23/11 12:30 AM


And this is what I want them to look like!

flwoodsman's photo
Wed 02/23/11 12:52 PM

However, several weeks later, in the wake of the North Korean Missile Crisis and the 2006 Lebanon War, Fox saw a surge in viewership and remained the #1 rated cable news channel. Fox still held eight of the ten most-watched nightly cable news shows, with The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes] coming in first and second places, respectively.

FNC ranked #8 for all cable channels in 2006 and #6 in 2007. The news channel surged to #1 during the week of Barack Obama's election (November 3–9) in 2008 and reached the top spot again in January 2010 during the week of the special Senate election in Massachusetts. Comparing Fox to its 24-hour news channel competitors, for the month of May 2010 the channel drew an average daily prime time audience of 1.8 million versus 747 000 for MSNBC and 595 000 for CNN.

In January 2010, Public Policy Polling reported that Fox News was the most trusted television news channel in the country with 49% of respondents stating they trust Fox News. Fox also scored the lowest level of distrust with only 37%, and was the only channel to score a net positive in that regard, with a +12%. CNN scored second in the poll with 39% of those polled stating that they trusted the news channel, and 41% stating distrust, a -2% net score.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_news#Ratings_and_reception


Personally I don't trust any of the major news networks to give an unbiased report.Dish Network carries FTV or "Free Speech TV" which reported the truth about what was going on with respects to Iraq before we invaded.The regular TV networks only reported Bush lies about the chemical weapons and blaming Iraq for 911 in order to get Americans to support his invasion.They had interviews with the head inspector of the team in charge of inspections.Fox and others never showed what he had to say other than maybe briefly which I never saw.Now the Bush regime called their actions bad intelligence.It was not bad intelligence.The info was out there,reported on FTV with plenty of evidence,squashed on the corporate networks all well before the invasion.My son went to Iraq and thank god he made it home safely.We were led to believe Iraq was a big threat to us and a lot of our children died because they were led like sheep by the lies of the Bush administration.Of course the numbers we lost were nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of innocent victims we killed there.I don't think that would be much consolation to the families that had their children come home in a box.
In conclusion look for other sources of information before you are led by the government friendly corporate networks.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 02/23/11 01:22 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Wed 02/23/11 01:26 PM

"Armed Society is a polite society" is bull shyte for sure. We have been the great locked and loaded west for a long time and polite is not what we are called by any extent of the word


Not even close. You're many times more likely to be killed by a cop than a legal gun owner.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 02/23/11 01:28 PM


However, several weeks later, in the wake of the North Korean Missile Crisis and the 2006 Lebanon War, Fox saw a surge in viewership and remained the #1 rated cable news channel. Fox still held eight of the ten most-watched nightly cable news shows, with The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes] coming in first and second places, respectively.

FNC ranked #8 for all cable channels in 2006 and #6 in 2007. The news channel surged to #1 during the week of Barack Obama's election (November 3–9) in 2008 and reached the top spot again in January 2010 during the week of the special Senate election in Massachusetts. Comparing Fox to its 24-hour news channel competitors, for the month of May 2010 the channel drew an average daily prime time audience of 1.8 million versus 747 000 for MSNBC and 595 000 for CNN.

In January 2010, Public Policy Polling reported that Fox News was the most trusted television news channel in the country with 49% of respondents stating they trust Fox News. Fox also scored the lowest level of distrust with only 37%, and was the only channel to score a net positive in that regard, with a +12%. CNN scored second in the poll with 39% of those polled stating that they trusted the news channel, and 41% stating distrust, a -2% net score.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_news#Ratings_and_reception


Personally I don't trust any of the major news networks to give an unbiased report.Dish Network carries FTV or "Free Speech TV" which reported the truth about what was going on with respects to Iraq before we invaded.The regular TV networks only reported Bush lies about the chemical weapons and blaming Iraq for 911 in order to get Americans to support his invasion.They had interviews with the head inspector of the team in charge of inspections.Fox and others never showed what he had to say other than maybe briefly which I never saw.Now the Bush regime called their actions bad intelligence.It was not bad intelligence.The info was out there,reported on FTV with plenty of evidence,squashed on the corporate networks all well before the invasion.My son went to Iraq and thank god he made it home safely.We were led to believe Iraq was a big threat to us and a lot of our children died because they were led like sheep by the lies of the Bush administration.Of course the numbers we lost were nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of innocent victims we killed there.I don't think that would be much consolation to the families that had their children come home in a box.
In conclusion look for other sources of information before you are led by the government friendly corporate networks.

drinker drinker drinker

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 02/23/11 07:20 PM
Fact... Sadam USED long range chemical weapons against Iran.

Fact... Such weapons are weapons of mass destruction.

fact... Sadam had weapons of mass destruction.

(he just did not have operational nukes yet).

Lpdon's photo
Wed 02/23/11 08:06 PM




Well, there ya go. You think your opinion is better than mine. I think my opinion is better than yours.

Does Home invasions=burglaries? There's a chart for that
Total crimes per capita? There's a chart for that
The ratio was 3 to one.
Why don't you find the statistics that would help you explain how "Gun control working in the UK . . . was FAKE AS IT GOT! "? Am I just suppose to take your word for it?
On top of that something ALL crime statistics leave out is violent crimes involving weapons other than guns. In the UK knives are still all the rage in fear and intimidation!
That is probably true. It doesn't change the fact that, where the rate of assualt, whether in home invasion or gang violence or police violence is roughly the same, the rates of homicide is 3 times as high in the country with lax gun law than in the country with very strict gun laws.

that would go down if folks actually started carrying their weapons... Big deterant when a 'bad' guy whips out a gun and the comunity blows him away...

few time like that and criminals would go elswhere.


Not true and foolish to believe so...

We have been an armed society since this countries inception and have yet to see criminals go elsewhere. I think that was a wild west philosophy that has failed miserably and certain people want to ignore the failure.

Balderdash...

Illegal to carry in most places in the United States. Has been 'restricted' for years except in a few states. (and even in those states carry is still restricted from some buildings and places)...




It's not illegal to carry here in Nevada. We are an open carry state same with Texas, Utah, Montana, Arizona, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho etc......

Lpdon's photo
Wed 02/23/11 08:07 PM



Scientology was founded by a homosexual pedophile. So what else?

Now repeating that your opinion is as good as any one else's is pretty weak sauce. Makes you sound like A BHL. Now about an armed society being a polite one, well, if you know the other guy will shoot back makes one hesitant to draw a weapon in the first place. Likewise when people carried swords the rules of Chivalry prevented open bloodshed without permission from the local nobility. It spelled out a code of conduct among gentry as well to prevent people from just taking advantage of them having a sword and the others not having one. Bushido was Japan's codes of Sword Wielding ethics!

Frankly believing others will protect you from harm is stupid. Hope you get this through your thick heads, a gun can be seconds away, the police are minuets away. What makes a bigger difference when seconds count?

If you can't defend yourself what good are you? More like worthless. if you can't protect yourself that means you sure in the hell can't watch my back. So why should I waste my energy watching your back? Neither of you have any Street Savvy evidently! Go ahead and believing being unarmed makes you all warm and safe. Believe whatever you want. Its a big country. Just don't whine when something bad happens to you and you were powerless to do anything and likewise remember my words!

This statement is a double edged sword but I have to say it. It is so easy to be brave from behind a computer screen in the comfort of your home. It is so easy to be led by your nose by John Lennon's beliefs in anti violence in the safety of your home! All I can say is you people come off as Masochistic! Take a walk down Anaheim Street in Wilmington some time alone. That is the Bunny Trail. If you want some Black Diamond excitement try the projects on Imperial and Alameda in Watts. Them Niggaz will be on your white azzes so fast you won't have time to say, "Shoo, was up wit da' fronting?" Think you can call LAPD on your cellies to save your Lilly white azzes from a taxation session? Yep. People are just so nice to each other all the time! Yep, this is America, we don't have bad people living here!

Yeah! Unarmed is smart in a world full of predators! Oh yeah! That's the ticket!

Sheep!


Hubbard was many things, but he wasn't homosexual or a pedophile. The COS supports the ban on same sex marriage.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Hubbard. He is nothing more then a con man who wanted to make a quick buck.

Not to mention the massive lies about his military service. He said he earned over thirty medals(he only earned four) and was stripped of command twice! Not to mention going AWOL with a us Sub Chaser and ordering it to fire at Mexico and had the salors on the deck with rifles shooting at Mexico, causing an international incident with an ally.

Oh yeah, then there was the two day attack off the Oregon Coast where he said there were two Jap Subs in the water. He launched over 50 depth charges, used all the ammunition on the ship, called in other sub chasers, blimps, supply boats, Coast Guard vessils and choppers, planes ett. It was found that there was NEVER a Sub in the area, and he claims to have sunk one(the one he claimed to have sunk actually went down two years later in another part of the world).

Also when we recieved all the Japaneese records after the war it was proved there was never ANY Jap Subs off the Oregon Coast.

THen there was the story he wrote about where one of the ships he commanded came under attack off the coast of Maine where everyone on the ship died but him and he survived in a life boat for weeks, blind and severly hurt. He amazingly used his "Special Powers" and healed himself back to 100%.

Theres also the comments made where as a LtJG. he commanded a group of British Corvettes in WW2. Even Admirals didn't do that.

I can keep going on his lies and crimes like "Operation Snow White", one of the largest domestic spying incidents in US History and made him a Federal Fugitive until the day he dies.

Scientology is a scam started by someone with severe mental issues. He even tried to get Psych help from the VA and was denied, thats why he and Scientology are against Psycology and Psychiatry.


UMmmmmmmmmm, L Ron Hubbard was known to have a thing with young boys "behind the scenes." And he was a CHRONIC liar! What is worst is they have a temple (a former movie theater) they hold their meetings at. I know where it is and I so badly want to sick kill-bots on them! The ultimate way for a sci fi head to go out!


Ummmm, he had a thing for teenage girls, not boys. I know a lot about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.

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