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Topic: 'Rogue officers'? Video emerges of teen being beaten
Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:06 AM

When we do good, nobody remembers. When we do bad, no one forgets".


Im sure criminals feel the same way. There are actions and consequences and Im not sure I can understand the emotional justification for kicking someone that is handcuffed and lying on the ground....obviously the threat(if there was any) is over

I agree that its a shame people are stigmatized their whole life over a bad choice and I too hope these cops go on to be productive citizens and are permitted to try to do so.






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Are you kin to Gandhi or what msharmony?

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:11 AM


When we do good, nobody remembers. When we do bad, no one forgets".


Im sure criminals feel the same way. There are actions and consequences and Im not sure I can understand the emotional justification for kicking someone that is handcuffed and lying on the ground....obviously the threat(if there was any) is over

I agree that its a shame people are stigmatized their whole life over a bad choice and I too hope these cops go on to be productive citizens and are permitted to try to do so.






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Are you kin to Gandhi or what msharmony?




lol,he would surely consider me beneath him,,,laugh laugh

AllenAqua's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:20 AM
Edited by AllenAqua on Sat 02/05/11 11:24 AM



If I'm an officer in pursuit, I have no clue of exactly WHO I'm chasing, the full extent of their alleged crimes, or what they might resort to, to avoid being caught


and you are PAID to deal with all those possibilities,,,if its so stressful for ya that you need to kick and pummel someone AFTER you have contained them, its not the job for you(not you, speaking rhetorically only here) and the only thing that seperates you from a gangster is your badge(who also fear for their safety in SOME instances for sure)

I feel for police who are in the line of danger(which not all of them are), and in LIFE threatening situations where someone is armed, or confrontational, I can understand them feeling FEARFUL

but with someone RUNNING Away from them and when it is not one on one, I still dont get the 'fear' defense


Cops aren't robots just because they're paid. I already stated my agreement that police brutality is criminal.
The fear comes into the picture with A, the suspect may be armed. B, the suspect may resort to some desperate act. C, in the course of pursuit, a mishap with an innocent bystander may occur. D, the outcome is uncertain at best.

I respectfully don't understand why any of that can't be accepted or understood.


I understand ALL of that, I just dont quite BUY it as the logic behind why several GROWN man would kick a teenager handcuffed and lying on the ground(there is no longer the question of whether he is armed or can do something desperate or hurt a bystander and the outcome is pretty certain)

how long a period of time should we excuse their ADRENALINE rush after the suspect is contained?


There's no excuse for it. One can only hope that the police community at large takes a lesson from it and incorporates appropriate training techniques to help their officers better cope with stress and anger management.

All I meant to express is that one not-so-apparent difference between the police and the people they have to pursue is that the police don't set out to commit a crime, where as, by definition, the criminal is explicitly out for just that.

One is a crime of selfish greed followed by an unwillingness to obey a lawful order, the other a crime of passion. In spite of what others may feel, my feeling is that there is a difference.

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:24 AM
crime of passion can also be translated as vengeance,,

possibly just as 'selfish' as theft,,,,,

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:27 AM
This is definitely a case where he punishment did not fit the crime.

AllenAqua's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:33 AM

crime of passion can also be translated as vengeance,,

possibly just as 'selfish' as theft,,,,,


I don't necessarily agree with that perception, but I completely respect your viewpoint in this case.

Had it turned out that the suspect was proven guilty of a much more heinous crime, such as baby killing or major terrorism, one might have more empathy (if nothing else) for the particular cops in question.


msharmony's photo
Sat 02/05/11 11:40 AM


crime of passion can also be translated as vengeance,,

possibly just as 'selfish' as theft,,,,,


I don't necessarily agree with that perception, but I completely respect your viewpoint in this case.

Had it turned out that the suspect was proven guilty of a much more heinous crime, such as baby killing or major terrorism, one might have more empathy (if nothing else) for the particular cops in question.





I have empathy for everyone,, dont you read my posts,,,laugh laugh


there is still a certain level of responsibility that comes with certain roles and jobs in life,,,,,human or not

and when we fail, its because we are human, but we have still failed

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