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Topic: 63-year-old Homegrown terrorist. ROFLMAO!!!
Fanta46's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:24 AM
How do you know he hadn't made the bomb.
The article only says,

"We never want to put something out there that gives someone the 'how-to,'" Haddad said.




Fanta46's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:25 AM


Gasoline you can get at the gas station,
Nails from any hardware store, and P-nut butter from the grocery store.

Simple to get, simple to build, and all the ingredients are legal.

I know how to build hundreds of similar devices.



I like nitro, the smell of nitro, the instability of nitro, and the explosiveness of nitro. I just don't like the pricelaugh Simple jr. college chemistry classes can you teach you far more than most realize unless your into it.


The US Army Infantry trains millions!:wink:

no photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:26 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 01/31/11 10:29 AM

How do you know he hadn't made the bomb.
The article only says,

"We never want to put something out there that gives someone the 'how-to,'" Haddad said.


Reading comprehension + the following...


Stockham had a large but undisclosed quantity of class-C fireworks including M-80s, which are outlawed in Michigan, Chief Ronald Haddad said.


I assume that the article would say "Homemade bomb", if that's what they meant.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:27 AM
Most of these homegrown terrorists and militia organizations are amateurs.

no photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:27 AM

Most of these homegrown terrorists and militia organizations are amateurs.


For which we should all be very, very glad.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:28 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 01/31/11 10:30 AM

How do you know he hadn't made the bomb.
The article only says,

"We never want to put something out there that gives someone the 'how-to,'" Haddad said.






Paper, Rock, Sissors. This trumps all.
Da!!!

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:28 AM



Gasoline you can get at the gas station,
Nails from any hardware store, and P-nut butter from the grocery store.

Simple to get, simple to build, and all the ingredients are legal.

I know how to build hundreds of similar devices.



I like nitro, the smell of nitro, the instability of nitro, and the explosiveness of nitro. I just don't like the pricelaugh Simple jr. college chemistry classes can you teach you far more than most realize unless your into it.


The US Army Infantry trains millions!:wink:


So do jr. colleges and high schools but the students for the most part don't realize it:smile:

Fanta46's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:30 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 01/31/11 10:32 AM
Granted, but it's hands on in the Infantry.
Tried, tested, and true!

metalwing's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:33 AM


It is possible boredinaz!

And like they police Cheif said,
"We never want to put something out there that gives someone the 'how-to,'" Haddad said.



All fireworks contain explosives. If you get enough it is possible.

I once built a landmine using shotgun shells. I ended up destroying it but it worked very well when I did. So well it scared me out of the idea.
I used 0ne box of shells in the construction.



Your talking to a pyro, I know fireworks. What would most likely happen with these even if he had 50 and lit the bag is it would start a fire and cause minimal structural damage to adjacent wall or doorway. That being said he could attach timed fuses linking them together, light it and flush the whole lot down the toilet.


That is correct. Illegal fireworks are simply burned for disposal. The M80s act as individuals.

To turn fireworks into dangerous weapons requires disassemble and confined repacking and repackaging.

metalwing's photo
Mon 01/31/11 10:49 AM

Try gasoline mixed with a thickener like P-nut butter, add a few nails, put it all in an ammo can, attach a rubber band to the spoon on a smoke grenade, tape it to the inside of the ammo can and close the lid.

You have what we called a screaming eagle. Very explosive, very lethal, and very easy to make.


Your "bomb" wouldn't work for so many reasons; no bristance, lack of confinement, incorrect chemistry (no oxygen supply), to name a few.

Your "bomb" might have enough punch to open the ammo can with the amount of trapped air mixed with some fumes from the gas ignited by the smoke bomb, but that's about it.

The "jelly" agent for gasoline is not peanut butter and homemade napalm is not an explosive.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 01/31/11 12:52 PM
can anyone say Dramatization?....i guess the chief got on the news, and "saved" the muslims like obama wanted... what a waste of reporters time...

metalwing's photo
Mon 01/31/11 03:28 PM

can anyone say Dramatization?....i guess the chief got on the news, and "saved" the muslims like obama wanted... what a waste of reporters time...


He was probably just a nut. He doesn't sound very dangerous.

willing2's photo
Mon 01/31/11 05:24 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 01/31/11 05:26 PM



Gasoline you can get at the gas station,
Nails from any hardware store, and P-nut butter from the grocery store.




That's not explosive.

Gasoline, kerosene or diesel mixed with liquid soap.
Even for that to work well it needs to be lit, thrown in and broken overhead.
The soap binds with the accelerant and sticks to the person it comes in contact with.
Much like napalm.

A claymore is C-4 with thousands of bbs and or barbed materials.
That one can be rigged to a cell phone, beeper, battery alarm, trip wire or pressure pad. It's only good for 180 degrees and limited distance.

If gun powder or black powder is not packed in the right proportions it will mostly burn and not have a big bang.

C-4 and TNT are the most reliable products for explosive purposes.
I wouldn't have a clue as to the recipe for TNT.
Commercial TNT and C-4 can only be purchased by someone with permits.

metalwing's photo
Mon 01/31/11 06:01 PM




Gasoline you can get at the gas station,
Nails from any hardware store, and P-nut butter from the grocery store.




That's not explosive.

Gasoline, kerosene or diesel mixed with liquid soap.
Even for that to work well it needs to be lit, thrown in and broken overhead.
The soap binds with the accelerant and sticks to the person it comes in contact with.
Much like napalm.

A claymore is C-4 with thousands of bbs and or barbed materials.
That one can be rigged to a cell phone, beeper, battery alarm, trip wire or pressure pad. It's only good for 180 degrees and limited distance.

If gun powder or black powder is not packed in the right proportions it will mostly burn and not have a big bang.

C-4 and TNT are the most reliable products for explosive purposes.
I wouldn't have a clue as to the recipe for TNT.
Commercial TNT and C-4 can only be purchased by someone with permits.


I deliberately did not provide sufficient information to construct any real devices due to the open nature of this site. I would suggest any responses should have limited information... but freedom of speech rules.

willing2's photo
Mon 01/31/11 06:03 PM





Gasoline you can get at the gas station,
Nails from any hardware store, and P-nut butter from the grocery store.




That's not explosive.

Gasoline, kerosene or diesel mixed with liquid soap.
Even for that to work well it needs to be lit, thrown in and broken overhead.
The soap binds with the accelerant and sticks to the person it comes in contact with.
Much like napalm.

A claymore is C-4 with thousands of bbs and or barbed materials.
That one can be rigged to a cell phone, beeper, battery alarm, trip wire or pressure pad. It's only good for 180 degrees and limited distance.

If gun powder or black powder is not packed in the right proportions it will mostly burn and not have a big bang.

C-4 and TNT are the most reliable products for explosive purposes.
I wouldn't have a clue as to the recipe for TNT.
Commercial TNT and C-4 can only be purchased by someone with permits.


I deliberately did not provide sufficient information to construct any real devices due to the open nature of this site. I would suggest any responses should have limited information... but freedom of speech rules.

Oh. Then, never-mind.:wink: smokin

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