Topic: Never Following the Status Quo
soufiehere's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:01 PM



I haven't said anything hateful. You do tend
to pizz people off I will give ya that.
I'm not one of them. I think you are full of
chit but I think everyone is full of chit...smokin

Thanks bro. And here I thought we was friends.smokin

Of course we are Senior Fertilize Spreader.........smokin

Two spreaders in one thread, life is so sweet.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:03 PM






life is to short to worry about material possessions. anything you own can be replaced, but people cannot be.


Except for those things that are "one of a kind"...they can't be replaced....just sayin'.

so if you did have the original reels to the star wars saga, and they were lost in a fire, would that end your life? would you just not want to live anymore?... wait, i forgot who i was asking that to...laugh laugh laugh


everything you own..eventually owns you...


yea, mainly money

no photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:07 PM







life is to short to worry about material possessions. anything you own can be replaced, but people cannot be.


Except for those things that are "one of a kind"...they can't be replaced....just sayin'.

so if you did have the original reels to the star wars saga, and they were lost in a fire, would that end your life? would you just not want to live anymore?... wait, i forgot who i was asking that to...laugh laugh laugh


I was just going by your statement of material possessions can be replaced and pointing out that some things can't be replaced. Yes, I do collect things as a hobby, and that does bring me happiness. In the long run would I be upset if I lost any of these things? No, I wouldn't.

depends on where you place your values, i guess. one mans trash is another mans gold. but if my house was on fire right now, there is nothing in it i would place over family and friends...


And no where did I say I would place any material possessions over friends and family. And I'll even quote myself-

In the long run would I be upset if I lost any of these things? No, I wouldn't.


krupa's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:08 PM
Few people are leaders.
Many people are followers.
Some people refuse to be led.


But to me...that seems like a natural balance.

no photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:11 PM

Nah nothing stirred me up I just talking about all walks of life I was in the Military and I am a fighter so there is always fight in me that burns rather violently lol thats a slight exaggeration but I do have fight in me. I just tend to rebel against things that try to control and dictate my life, you know what I mean?


Yes, I do know what you mean.

And how exactly is this any different? You quoting someone suggesting this intagible betterment of being or someting.

I understand what you're saying, but I respect freedom more.

Okami04's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:12 PM

Few people are leaders.
Many people are followers.
Some people refuse to be led.


But to me...that seems like a natural balance.



Words have never been truer than those
for sure butt,

I would say there are just some people who are way out there and there can be leaders who refuse to be led as well

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:13 PM








life is to short to worry about material possessions. anything you own can be replaced, but people cannot be.


Except for those things that are "one of a kind"...they can't be replaced....just sayin'.

so if you did have the original reels to the star wars saga, and they were lost in a fire, would that end your life? would you just not want to live anymore?... wait, i forgot who i was asking that to...laugh laugh laugh


I was just going by your statement of material possessions can be replaced and pointing out that some things can't be replaced. Yes, I do collect things as a hobby, and that does bring me happiness. In the long run would I be upset if I lost any of these things? No, I wouldn't.

depends on where you place your values, i guess. one mans trash is another mans gold. but if my house was on fire right now, there is nothing in it i would place over family and friends...


And no where did I say I would place any material possessions over friends and family. And I'll even quote myself-

In the long run would I be upset if I lost any of these things? No, I wouldn't.


didn't say you did... just voicing my opinion
drinker

Gwendolyn2009's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:13 PM

It is a shame that in this society we've been taught to judge a man's worth by what he owns instead of who he is. Everything is surface, and so few look beyond it. A man will sell his soul, he will lie, cheat and steal, for money. If he has it, he can buy respect. Wear the right clothes, drive the right car, have the right friends, that's all that matters. Our lives are consumed in a selfish, self absorbed quest for possessions, the latest and the best in a never-ending cycle until the day we die. We forget what it means to be truly human. We forget the things that really matter. We lose the magic of what life should be. I won't live by rules that make no sense to me.

I believe that I am a Rebel but I am one not without a cause, I do have a plan, and I rebel against everyone and everything that gets in the way of me living my life the way I want to live it. I forge my own path in life and I hope everyone else does, or will do the same.


What about women? Do they fall into the same categories?

1. It is impossible to ALWAYS buck the status quo.

2. You may choose to not live by "rules" that make no sense to you, but you will still do it--even if you do not realize that you do so. We are written, we do not write, and even in your rebelliousness, you are following a pattern set by those rebels who preceded you.

Ultimately, you will live by those rules because you will desire a goal that can only be achieved by doing so.

3. To choose to rebel against everyone and everything that gets in your way is a selfish path. Without empathy and understanding for others, we are no more than animals who strike out blindly at perceived enemies. To be empathetic is truly to be human.

4. You advocate that everyone forge his/her own path and ignore the rules that make so sense--why follow any rules? Let the mass murderer have free rein; let pedophiles have their way.

People who promote anarchy don't really want anarchy; they want the way of the world to be their way. You advocate anarchy. You would not like the results of your advocacy.

5. If in forging your path it crosses mine and I don't like your path--I should follow your suggestions and rebel against you. This could mean removing you from the face of the earth, eh? How long would any society last if we all decided to do this?

6. Empathy fuels the humane side of humans, but to say that seeking material possessions isn't what being human is all about, you are incorrect. Humans evolved by seeking possessions, seeking comfort, and seeking to be better than others. It is how we survived.

7. As I wrote, rebels conform to those who precede them. I have never met a "rebel" who was truly creative and innovative in his/her rebelliousness. Not only that, but successful rebels lose their edge when their goals are achieved--read about Lenin, Mao, Castro, and other rebels who sought to better the condition of their countries; they became caricatures of themselves.

I have become a chameleon.




krupa's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:15 PM
Greed for posession was established long before humans came along. Some monkey out there decided he wanted THAT female or THAT tree or THAT arm load of fruit....and another monkey wanted his tree, food and woman.

All animals have thier possessions....eggs, a nest, den, burrow.....and something else wants it too.

Some birds have brilliant plumage....most are just another one of the crowd.....neither one is less of a bird.

no photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:16 PM

What about women? Do they fall into the same categories?


Yeah, if you put yourself there like you just did. slaphead

Now I'm gonna have to go and burn a bra. bigsmile

Okami04's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:21 PM


Nah nothing stirred me up I just talking about all walks of life I was in the Military and I am a fighter so there is always fight in me that burns rather violently lol thats a slight exaggeration but I do have fight in me. I just tend to rebel against things that try to control and dictate my life, you know what I mean?


Yes, I do know what you mean.

And how exactly is this any different? You quoting someone suggesting this intagible betterment of being or someting.

I understand what you're saying, but I respect freedom more.


Freedom is exactly what I am talking about wtf man are you reading

I am free to live my life and I choose to live it the way I want, I wont be a slave to society am just talking about living your life the way you want how hard is that to understand


krupa's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:25 PM


Few people are leaders.
Many people are followers.
Some people refuse to be led.


But to me...that seems like a natural balance.



Words have never been truer than those
for sure butt,

I would say there are just some people who are way out there and there can be leaders who refuse to be led as well


Yeah....that would be me....


Okami04's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:29 PM


It is a shame that in this society we've been taught to judge a man's worth by what he owns instead of who he is. Everything is surface, and so few look beyond it. A man will sell his soul, he will lie, cheat and steal, for money. If he has it, he can buy respect. Wear the right clothes, drive the right car, have the right friends, that's all that matters. Our lives are consumed in a selfish, self absorbed quest for possessions, the latest and the best in a never-ending cycle until the day we die. We forget what it means to be truly human. We forget the things that really matter. We lose the magic of what life should be. I won't live by rules that make no sense to me.

I believe that I am a Rebel but I am one not without a cause, I do have a plan, and I rebel against everyone and everything that gets in the way of me living my life the way I want to live it. I forge my own path in life and I hope everyone else does, or will do the same.


What about women? Do they fall into the same categories?

1. It is impossible to ALWAYS buck the status quo.

2. You may choose to not live by "rules" that make no sense to you, but you will still do it--even if you do not realize that you do so. We are written, we do not write, and even in your rebelliousness, you are following a pattern set by those rebels who preceded you.

Ultimately, you will live by those rules because you will desire a goal that can only be achieved by doing so.

3. To choose to rebel against everyone and everything that gets in your way is a selfish path. Without empathy and understanding for others, we are no more than animals who strike out blindly at perceived enemies. To be empathetic is truly to be human.

4. You advocate that everyone forge his/her own path and ignore the rules that make so sense--why follow any rules? Let the mass murderer have free rein; let pedophiles have their way.

People who promote anarchy don't really want anarchy; they want the way of the world to be their way. You advocate anarchy. You would not like the results of your advocacy.

5. If in forging your path it crosses mine and I don't like your path--I should follow your suggestions and rebel against you. This could mean removing you from the face of the earth, eh? How long would any society last if we all decided to do this?

6. Empathy fuels the humane side of humans, but to say that seeking material possessions isn't what being human is all about, you are incorrect. Humans evolved by seeking possessions, seeking comfort, and seeking to be better than others. It is how we survived.

7. As I wrote, rebels conform to those who precede them. I have never met a "rebel" who was truly creative and innovative in his/her rebelliousness. Not only that, but successful rebels lose their edge when their goals are achieved--read about Lenin, Mao, Castro, and other rebels who sought to better the condition of their countries; they became caricatures of themselves.

I have become a chameleon.







I am just saying what evan tanner is saying dont let the pursuit of possessions run your life

I am not advocating anarchy, I talk about my professional life as well as I am a Pro Fighter so I hope that puts things in perspective and you read my post knowing that you will see you take a new meaning from it, when I talk about removing people in my way

As for being a uncreative rebel and you think I am selfish that is fine I am selfish in my own way , as for uncreative probably but I do what makes me happy and the way I do it is my way and off course it would follow some sort of pattern everybody has some sort of pattern so that makes little sense to point that out


And I dont want the world to be my way I want my world to be my way there is a difference


no photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:30 PM
Edited by Tribbles on Fri 01/28/11 05:31 PM

Freedom is exactly what I am talking about wtf man are you reading

I am free to live my life and I choose to live it the way I want, I wont be a slave to society am just talking about living your life the way you want how hard is that to understand


This is what I'm reading, and I'll break it down for you since I have nothing better to do. This is called Literary Interpretation, so bare with me...


It is a shame that in this society we've been taught to judge a man's worth by what he owns instead of who he is. Everything is surface, and so few look beyond it. A man will sell his soul, he will lie, cheat and steal, for money. If he has it, he can buy respect. Wear the right clothes, drive the right car, have the right friends, that's all that matters. Our lives are consumed in a selfish, self absorbed quest for possessions, the latest and the best in a never-ending cycle until the day we die. We forget what it means to be truly human. We forget the things that really matter. We lose the magic of what life should be. I won't live by rules that make no sense to me.

I believe that I am a Rebel but I am one not without a cause, I do have a plan, and I rebel against everyone and everything that gets in the way of me living my life the way I want to live it. I forge my own path in life and I hope everyone else does, or will do the same.


To me at least, it's quite obvious that the above implies a sort of hate if you will upon those who do in fact live the glamorous proverbial life afmorementioned above.

Directly quoting, "we lose the magic of what life should be."

So you; my good sir, tell me - How that isn't telling me what I should, and/or shouldn't do...?

Okami04's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:34 PM



Few people are leaders.
Many people are followers.
Some people refuse to be led.


But to me...that seems like a natural balance.



Words have never been truer than those
for sure butt,

I would say there are just some people who are way out there and there can be leaders who refuse to be led as well


Yeah....that would be me....




After being in the military I think I will never follow anything quite so structured again lol

so i will have to go with just saying a lead my own life and follow myself lol

no photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:38 PM

Greed for posession was established long before humans came along. Some monkey out there decided he wanted THAT female or THAT tree or THAT arm load of fruit....and another monkey wanted his tree, food and woman.

All animals have thier possessions....eggs, a nest, den, burrow.....and something else wants it too.

Some birds have brilliant plumage....most are just another one of the crowd.....neither one is less of a bird.


true - and crows and gulls, among the most intelligent birds, will steal from you - without shame! Crows will actually stash what they pilfer

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:42 PM


Greed for posession was established long before humans came along. Some monkey out there decided he wanted THAT female or THAT tree or THAT arm load of fruit....and another monkey wanted his tree, food and woman.

All animals have thier possessions....eggs, a nest, den, burrow.....and something else wants it too.

Some birds have brilliant plumage....most are just another one of the crowd.....neither one is less of a bird.


true - and crows and gulls, among the most intelligent birds, will steal from you - without shame! Crows will actually stash what they pilfer


i saw a pelican steal a fish from a mans back pocket in Daytona once...

Okami04's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:42 PM


Freedom is exactly what I am talking about wtf man are you reading

I am free to live my life and I choose to live it the way I want, I wont be a slave to society am just talking about living your life the way you want how hard is that to understand


This is what I'm reading, and I'll break it down for you since I have nothing better to do. This is called Literary Interpretation, so bare with me...


It is a shame that in this society we've been taught to judge a man's worth by what he owns instead of who he is. Everything is surface, and so few look beyond it. A man will sell his soul, he will lie, cheat and steal, for money. If he has it, he can buy respect. Wear the right clothes, drive the right car, have the right friends, that's all that matters. Our lives are consumed in a selfish, self absorbed quest for possessions, the latest and the best in a never-ending cycle until the day we die. We forget what it means to be truly human. We forget the things that really matter. We lose the magic of what life should be. I won't live by rules that make no sense to me.

I believe that I am a Rebel but I am one not without a cause, I do have a plan, and I rebel against everyone and everything that gets in the way of me living my life the way I want to live it. I forge my own path in life and I hope everyone else does, or will do the same.


To me at least, it's quite obvious that the above implies a sort of hate if you will upon those who do in fact live the glamorous proverbial life afmorementioned above.

Directly quoting, "we lose the magic of what life should be."

So you; my good sir, tell me - How that isn't telling me what I should, and/or shouldn't do...?


If you recognize the what the so called prverbial life is and prefer it then you make a choice I think Evan Tanner was talking about people who do **** and don't realize it

so you recognizing and choosing to live the materialistic life is kinda different then someone who just does without thinking about it ,
and I dont think Evan Tanner implies any hate at all, him and I just want people to recognize what more life has out there to offer.

If you dont believe life should be more than my qoute then be mad about it but be honest with yourself when you do make that connection

newarkjw's photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:45 PM


Greed for posession was established long before humans came along. Some monkey out there decided he wanted THAT female or THAT tree or THAT arm load of fruit....and another monkey wanted his tree, food and woman.

All animals have thier possessions....eggs, a nest, den, burrow.....and something else wants it too.

Some birds have brilliant plumage....most are just another one of the crowd.....neither one is less of a bird.


true - and crows and gulls, among the most intelligent birds, will steal from you - without shame! Crows will actually stash what they pilfer


Yep and then chit right on your head.........smokin

no photo
Fri 01/28/11 05:53 PM

If you recognize the what the so called prverbial life is and prefer it then you make a choice I think Evan Tanner was talking about people who do **** and don't realize it

so you recognizing and choosing to live the materialistic life is kinda different then someone who just does without thinking about it ,
and I dont think Evan Tanner implies any hate at all, him and I just want people to recognize what more life has out there to offer.

If you dont believe life should be more than my qoute then be mad about it but be honest with yourself when you do make that connection


What's funny is that I don't live a materalistic life. I don't currently have a steady job, and I'm living off of financial aid.

Sure it would be great to live a carefree life not worrying about anything, but realistically, that's just not the case. I mean, I suppose I could give up everything and become a farmer who plants eggs and grows fried chicken, but that'll never happen.

I think a more important connection is one that involves a more realistic approach.

I don't think you even understand what you quoted, nor it's relevance in modern society.