Topic: My Experiment with truth.
vthepoet's photo
Sun 01/23/11 04:27 PM
ghandi cheated on his wife. so much for truth.

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Sun 01/23/11 04:37 PM
what is your truth if you would speak it? Do we have a truth that is ours?

What is mine? I think mine is that I was born to love and I live to love but I have learned to see life through the eyes of many stories

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Sun 01/23/11 04:50 PM

What stops you to speak the truth all the time?huh



Most people don't want to hear it. All day long, every day, I hear people saying things that simply aren't true, or making arguments based on false logic. I will usually experiment, at first, with very patiently and gently pointing this out. Most of the time, most people really resent this and it leads them to greater heights of irrationality. Soon I'll taper this down to the level of 'truth' that the person seems to be able to handle.

I've found people who are studying the sciences and who are involved in science as a career are often far, far more open to hearing about how they might be wrong then the general population.

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Sun 01/23/11 04:52 PM

ghandi cheated on his wife. so much for truth.


Why, did he lie about it?


vthepoet's photo
Sun 01/23/11 04:52 PM
he didnt tell her, so up to you to decide if its a lie to not mention it or not.

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Sun 01/23/11 04:54 PM

he didnt tell her, so up to you to decide if its a lie to not mention it or not.


ah how dare he be human

what one man does
all men
are capable of

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Sun 01/23/11 04:57 PM

he didnt tell her, so up to you to decide if its a lie to not mention it or not.


Interesting.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 01/23/11 05:12 PM

This ia the title of autobiography written by "Gandhi", the father of Nation of India.
It requires real courage to face/speak the truth. We sometimes speak the truth and most of the time deviate ourselves from the truth,that too without any proper reason;just out of habit.
Stick to the truth at any cost and see the huge upliftment in yourself.
What stops you to speak the truth all the time?huh



Nothing, I do.

The only time I hesitate is in those possible "TMI" situations and then I just watch how much information I share.

I find being honest is freeing but at the same time there are people who see it as being too brusque or mean.

vthepoet's photo
Sun 01/23/11 05:17 PM
cheating isnt part of being human. ive never cheated never will its a moral choice, not a part of nature.

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Sun 01/23/11 05:26 PM

cheating isnt part of being human. ive never cheated never will its a moral choice, not a part of nature.


any sexual behaviors that u see in humans you can find replicated among animals

hunnie I didn't say u would cheat. I don't go for that either. just that people are capable of it

vthepoet's photo
Sun 01/23/11 05:32 PM
agreed, just that as a person standing for human rights and the sort it was rather dissapointing when i found out.

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Sun 01/23/11 05:39 PM

agreed, just that as a person standing for human rights and the sort it was rather dissapointing when i found out.


it doesn't mean that his teachings were not important. If anything, you now see him as a man capable of human failing, and this makes the perceptions and wonderful truths he has about peace and love among men all that much more miraculous - that a mere mortal could affect so many with so muchflowerforyou
namaste

barun1959's photo
Mon 01/24/11 11:35 AM

What stops people from speaking the truth all the time.

empathy for others feelings in a big one.

not really knowing what the truth is, due to perception etc. is probably the biggest one.

besides ... the truth changes like and with the time and you may think you are speaking the truth but you are slow or fast and get it wrong.

so .... try as you may , to speak the truth always.
under analysis you will find you failed.
so ... cut out the word .. always ... and move to... as much as possible... then maybe...
you won't fail so often.
Without knowing fully when someone is speaking or giving opinion that is ignorance;knowing the facts fully if someone just manipulates to give wrong picture specially for self benefit,that is lie.

barun1959's photo
Mon 01/24/11 07:24 PM

You can ask 10 people what happened at a disaster or accident and get seferal versions of the truth.....why? Perception......and intake and outtake of the situation.......
Wrong perception or wrong information may mislead; ego,fear,narrow mind,jealousy etc are the cause which prevent us from speaking the truth.:heart:

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Mon 01/24/11 08:24 PM
Okay, here goes:

Ghandi slept naked with naked young girls. Frequently.

Ghandi refused to give his wife the antibiotics that would have saved her life, but when get got sick, he took antibiotics.

Speaking of the Holocaust, Ghandi said "The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs."

Jess642's photo
Mon 01/24/11 09:40 PM

cheating isnt part of being human. ive never cheated never will its a moral choice, not a part of nature.


If you mean by cheating, being incapable of monogamy...then you are VERY wrong in your statement...humans are NOT a monogomous species...never have been, nor ever will be.

I like your idealised fluffy version, however it is an untruth.

(How appropriate!laugh )

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Mon 01/24/11 09:45 PM

Okay, here goes:

Ghandi slept naked with naked young girls. Frequently.

Ghandi refused to give his wife the antibiotics that would have saved her life, but when get got sick, he took antibiotics.

Speaking of the Holocaust, Ghandi said "The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs."


really? well that certainly wouldn't have been my suggestion. I'm not real big on the turn the other cheek stuff either

but I still am very interested in Ghandi

gummykiss's photo
Mon 01/24/11 09:48 PM
Truth to the best of my knowledge has led me to a clean conscience free of guilt or regret. I try to be as honest as I can always, because I know the consequences of the latter.

barun1959's photo
Tue 01/25/11 05:54 AM

Okay, here goes:

Ghandi slept naked with naked young girls. Frequently.

Ghandi refused to give his wife the antibiotics that would have saved her life, but when get got sick, he took antibiotics.

Speaking of the Holocaust, Ghandi said "The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs."
Instead of telling about 'Gandhi',it would be more appropriate if you please give your opinion on "speaking truth only".offtopic

barun1959's photo
Tue 01/25/11 06:16 AM

Nothing stops me.

I speak MY truth at all times, even when I don't like the taste of it.


flowerforyou

The more we defend ourselves with lies we become more weak; on the other hand if we have courage (which unfortunately we don't have always) to speak the truth irrespective of its consequence it make us mentally stronger.:heart: :thumbsup: